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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 08:36 AM
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5spd runs terrible after stalling??

Was on a steep hill today and was also talking on the phone and stalled the car while pulling out. It took a second or two of cranking before it would start, and then ran horrible for about a minute or two. It was bucking and jumping like crazy. I floored it in 1st up to redline and then it was fine.

Anyone else every experience this?

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Old Sep 20, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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thats because when you stall the car you flood the engine with fuel.. its kinda like holding your little brothers mouth open and pouring milk down it continously.. and then letting him up and seeing his reaction
Old Sep 20, 2002 | 08:40 AM
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Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

Originally posted by raynist
Was on a steep hill today and was also talking on the phone and stalled the car while pulling out. It took a second or two of cranking before it would start, and then ran horrible for about a minute or two. It was bucking and jumping like crazy. I floored it in 1st up to redline and then it was fine.

Anyone else every experience this?

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When you stall, some unburned fuel can get in your exhaust. It's possible this caused your bucking, like backfire.

Can someone confirm this?
Old Sep 20, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
thats because when you stall the car you flood the engine with fuel.. its kinda like holding your little brothers mouth open and pouring milk down it continously.. and then letting him up and seeing his reaction
Old Sep 20, 2002 | 10:55 AM
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Re: Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

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When you stall, some unburned fuel can get in your exhaust. It's possible this caused your bucking, like backfire.

Can someone confirm this?
It did not make any noise, just felt like before I had the fuel cut issue fixed.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 04:09 AM
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Re: Re: Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

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It did not make any noise, just felt like before I had the fuel cut issue fixed.
I have experiencedd this too - I find that turning the ignition completely off before restarting helps a lot. I think it may have to do with the computer not recognizing the stall until the key is cycled.
Old Sep 21, 2002 | 05:58 AM
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I have experiencedd this too - I find that turning the ignition completely off before restarting helps a lot. I think it may have to do with the computer not recognizing the stall until the key is cycled.
no.. turning the ignition completely off disengages the fuel pump and then fuel pressure drops..thus pumping less fuel back into the engine.. turn your ignition to the ON position a couple times and listen if you can hear the fuel pump
Old Sep 22, 2002 | 04:38 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

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no.. turning the ignition completely off disengages the fuel pump and then fuel pressure drops..thus pumping less fuel back into the engine.. turn your ignition to the ON position a couple times and listen if you can hear the fuel pump
So, of course the pump goes off when you kill the ignition, so does everything else. When you stall the engine it stops turning - no timing signal - no injection, no excess fuel. It's not a fuel pressure issue, think - when you idle the fuel pump is pumping enough fuel for WOT but the engine isn't flooded.
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So, of course the pump goes off when you kill the ignition, so does everything else. When you stall the engine it stops turning - no timing signal - no injection, no excess fuel. It's not a fuel pressure issue, think - when you idle the fuel pump is pumping enough fuel for WOT but the engine isn't flooded.
turning the ignition off doesn't kill the fuel pressure.. you are still at 20 PSI.. dont' believe me.. try to pull off your Fuel Filter while the car is off.. see how much gas you get in your face thats why you have to pull the fuel pump fuse first
Old Sep 22, 2002 | 01:14 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

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turning the ignition off doesn't kill the fuel pressure.. you are still at 20 PSI.. dont' believe me.. try to pull off your Fuel Filter while the car is off.. see how much gas you get in your face thats why you have to pull the fuel pump fuse first
You said <<<no.. turning the ignition completely off disengages the fuel pump and then fuel pressure drops..thus pumping less fuel back into the engine.. turn your ignition to the ON position a couple times and listen if you can hear the fuel pump [/B][/QUOTE]>>>>

I disagreed with you, it is nice to know that you agree with me by disagreeing with yourself. I did not say that turning the key off kills pressure, only the pump and returns the ecu to start mode.
Old Sep 22, 2002 | 01:29 PM
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You said <<<no.. turning the ignition completely off disengages the fuel pump and then fuel pressure drops..thus pumping less fuel back into the engine.. turn your ignition to the ON position a couple times and listen if you can hear the fuel pump
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I disagreed with you, it is nice to know that you agree with me by disagreeing with yourself. I did not say that turning the key off kills pressure, only the pump and returns the ecu to start mode. [/B][/QUOTE]


turning off the ignition doesn't kill the pump.. what do you think is holding hte pressure? its the pump if you had a fuel pressure gauge you would know what i was talkign about
Old Sep 22, 2002 | 06:28 PM
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Read your owners manual, page 5-7...

"In the summer, when restarting the engine within 30 minutes after it has been stopped, keep the accelerator pedal fully depressed while starting."

This is a signal to the ECU that you want a warm restart (like after you stall).
Old Sep 22, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

Originally posted by SprintMax
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I disagreed with you, it is nice to know that you agree with me by disagreeing with yourself. I did not say that turning the key off kills pressure, only the pump and returns the ecu to start mode.

turning off the ignition doesn't kill the pump.. what do you think is holding hte pressure? its the pump if you had a fuel pressure gauge you would know what i was talkign about [/B][/QUOTE]
Old Sep 22, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 5spd runs terrible after stalling??

Originally posted by SprintMax
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I disagreed with you, it is nice to know that you agree with me by disagreeing with yourself. I did not say that turning the key off kills pressure, only the pump and returns the ecu to start mode.

turning off the ignition doesn't kill the pump.. what do you think is holding hte pressure? its the pump if you had a fuel pressure gauge you would know what i was talkign about [/B][/QUOTE]

Turning off the ignition DOES turn off the pump, the pressure is maintained by a check valve, fuel pressure regulator and 6 closed injectors. That's why the battery lasts and the pump starts when you turn the key on.
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