y is the 95-96 faster the the 97+ 4th gen?
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y is the 95-96 faster the the 97+ 4th gen?
i was just wondering why the 95-96 4th gen is faster than the 97's and above? are they lighter? if so, why are they lighter? they look like the same car to me except the rear end is shaped different. i'm askin this because is there something that the 97+ cars have that the 95-96's dont have that make us so much heavier?
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Re: y is the 95-96 faster the the 97+ 4th gen?
Originally posted by MAXXspeed18
i was just wondering why the 95-96 4th gen is faster than the 97's and above? are they lighter? if so, why are they lighter? they look like the same car to me except the rear end is shaped different. i'm askin this because is there something that the 97+ cars have that the 95-96's dont have that make us so much heavier?
i was just wondering why the 95-96 4th gen is faster than the 97's and above? are they lighter? if so, why are they lighter? they look like the same car to me except the rear end is shaped different. i'm askin this because is there something that the 97+ cars have that the 95-96's dont have that make us so much heavier?
Re: Re: y is the 95-96 faster the the 97+ 4th gen?
Originally posted by maximamoose
i have read that the stock 15" wheels contribute to a little of its speed. other than that, i have no idea
i have read that the stock 15" wheels contribute to a little of its speed. other than that, i have no idea
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Originally posted by SkylineGTR
OBDI vs OBDII
and as far as i know, OBDII sucks .... performance and mod wise.
OBDI vs OBDII
and as far as i know, OBDII sucks .... performance and mod wise.
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Originally posted by sryth
Wasn't OBDII mandatory in 1996? Maybe it was 1996, but the 1997 model year...
Wasn't OBDII mandatory in 1996? Maybe it was 1996, but the 1997 model year...
Originally posted by Lime
is it really faster? Not really. Maybe like .1 second heh. Non reinforced bumpers (mmmm safe) is a weight reduction haha.
is it really faster? Not really. Maybe like .1 second heh. Non reinforced bumpers (mmmm safe) is a weight reduction haha.
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Originally posted by gimpatron
If everyone actually used search... I highly doubt this forum would be so popular.
If everyone actually used search... I highly doubt this forum would be so popular.
Originally posted by theblue
who said the 95-96 is faster??? when I look at the 1/4 times I don't see the 95-96s being faster?
who said the 95-96 is faster??? when I look at the 1/4 times I don't see the 95-96s being faster?
Neal runs 14.1 on slicks
VQdriver runs 14.1 on street tires..
both 96's and both a couple the fastest NA cars out there now
Originally posted by SprintMax
Aaron i can't believe you said that..
Neal runs 14.1 on slicks
VQdriver runs 14.1 on street tires..
both 96's and both a couple the fastest NA cars out there now
Aaron i can't believe you said that..
Neal runs 14.1 on slicks
VQdriver runs 14.1 on street tires..
both 96's and both a couple the fastest NA cars out there now
Neal has more mods.. or at least the VI
or are you being sarcastic?
Originally posted by Lime
is it really faster? Not really. Maybe like .1 second heh. Non reinforced bumpers (mmmm safe) is a weight reduction haha.
is it really faster? Not really. Maybe like .1 second heh. Non reinforced bumpers (mmmm safe) is a weight reduction haha.
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Originally posted by MAXIN
I thought that reinforcement was only for like 5mph???....who drives 5 mph?
I thought that reinforcement was only for like 5mph???....who drives 5 mph?
Who drives 5 mph? People who are backing in and out of parking spaces maybe?
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Originally posted by clee130
You haven't seen those low impact damage pictures, have you?
Who drives 5 mph? People who are backing in and out of parking spaces maybe?
You haven't seen those low impact damage pictures, have you?
Who drives 5 mph? People who are backing in and out of parking spaces maybe?
Yeah, dumb ***** that don't pay attention at lights or in stop-and-go and rear-end you. Zero damage in 97-99 vs TONS of damage on 95-96. I think insurance is cheaper on the 97-99's because of this. I'd glady take the hit of a few extra pounds on the 97-99's for a little more "minor impact" protection. But then again I'm not trying to break any records in my Max either
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Originally posted by SteVTEC
i've seen those
Yeah, dumb ***** that don't pay attention at lights or in stop-and-go and rear-end you. Zero damage in 97-99 vs TONS of damage on 95-96.
i've seen those
Yeah, dumb ***** that don't pay attention at lights or in stop-and-go and rear-end you. Zero damage in 97-99 vs TONS of damage on 95-96.
Originally posted by clee130
I know someone posted the pictures on here before. I'm at work right now so I can't do an extensive search.
I know someone posted the pictures on here before. I'm at work right now so I can't do an extensive search.
95/96 on the left, 97-99 on the right. Same 5mph bumper test...
Originally posted by clee130
I know someone posted the pictures on here before. I'm at work right now so I can't do an extensive search.
I know someone posted the pictures on here before. I'm at work right now so I can't do an extensive search.
you work for the ORG.. now search..even though ben found it for you
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Originally posted by mzmtg
This pic?
95/96 on the left, 97-99 on the right. Same 5mph bumper test...
This pic?
95/96 on the left, 97-99 on the right. Same 5mph bumper test...
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Originally posted by nadir_s
Hmm... the 97-99 bumper still sustained SOME damage right? I dunno, i can't really tell from the picture. When i first looked at it, i thought it was a before/after pic.
Hmm... the 97-99 bumper still sustained SOME damage right? I dunno, i can't really tell from the picture. When i first looked at it, i thought it was a before/after pic.
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From: norcal
Originally posted by clee130
It doesn't look like the 97+ was damaged at all.
It doesn't look like the 97+ was damaged at all.
When i looked at that pic again, i think it was dented somewhat if you look at the emblems. Also, what did they hit it w/, just a single upright rod moving forward at 5mph ?
eh sorry, 1 more thing, getting a 97 bumper to fit the 95/96 models is no problem right? meaning, they are the exact fitment size.
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Originally posted by nadir_s
ghetto!! blah i have a 96 too. Well, i hope no one rear ends me... bad for me (safety) and bad for the other driver ($$).
When i looked at that pic again, i think it was dented somewhat if you look at the emblems. Also, what did they hit it w/, just a single upright rod moving forward at 5mph ?
eh sorry, 1 more thing, getting a 97 bumper to fit the 95/96 models is no problem right? meaning, they are the exact fitment size.
ghetto!! blah i have a 96 too. Well, i hope no one rear ends me... bad for me (safety) and bad for the other driver ($$).
When i looked at that pic again, i think it was dented somewhat if you look at the emblems. Also, what did they hit it w/, just a single upright rod moving forward at 5mph ?
eh sorry, 1 more thing, getting a 97 bumper to fit the 95/96 models is no problem right? meaning, they are the exact fitment size.
And the fitment question is answered in the FAQs.
I don't think there is any significant difference in quickness, top speed, power, or response to modifications between any years of the 4th gens. BTW VQdriver (Rudy) does have a 96.
Quick drivers run quick times, I don't think it matters what car they are in. Veetec ran 14.7 stock. I ran 14.8 stock. VQ ran 14.3 with intake and y, I ran 14.4 with y, aaron ran 14.2 with i/y/e, etc and the list goes on. That is a pretty good cross section of years, well its 96 vs 97 at least. On another note, I pulled a 14.52 in 99 SEL on heavy 17" wheels with just I/Y/E and a short shifter. I'd never driven his car before, and pulled almost 2 tenths better than he was able to muster. I think it depends who's driving, and how used to driving on the track they are.
Quick drivers run quick times, I don't think it matters what car they are in. Veetec ran 14.7 stock. I ran 14.8 stock. VQ ran 14.3 with intake and y, I ran 14.4 with y, aaron ran 14.2 with i/y/e, etc and the list goes on. That is a pretty good cross section of years, well its 96 vs 97 at least. On another note, I pulled a 14.52 in 99 SEL on heavy 17" wheels with just I/Y/E and a short shifter. I'd never driven his car before, and pulled almost 2 tenths better than he was able to muster. I think it depends who's driving, and how used to driving on the track they are.
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Originally posted by Nealoc187
I don't think there is any significant difference in quickness, top speed, power, or response to modifications between any years of the 4th gens. BTW VQdriver (Rudy) does have a 96.
Quick drivers run quick times, I don't think it matters what car they are in. Veetec ran 14.7 stock. I ran 14.8 stock. VQ ran 14.3 with intake and y, I ran 14.4 with y, aaron ran 14.2 with i/y/e, etc and the list goes on. That is a pretty good cross section of years, well its 96 vs 97 at least. On another note, I pulled a 14.52 in 99 SEL on heavy 17" wheels with just I/Y/E and a short shifter. I'd never driven his car before, and pulled almost 2 tenths better than he was able to muster. I think it depends who's driving, and how used to driving on the track they are.
I don't think there is any significant difference in quickness, top speed, power, or response to modifications between any years of the 4th gens. BTW VQdriver (Rudy) does have a 96.
Quick drivers run quick times, I don't think it matters what car they are in. Veetec ran 14.7 stock. I ran 14.8 stock. VQ ran 14.3 with intake and y, I ran 14.4 with y, aaron ran 14.2 with i/y/e, etc and the list goes on. That is a pretty good cross section of years, well its 96 vs 97 at least. On another note, I pulled a 14.52 in 99 SEL on heavy 17" wheels with just I/Y/E and a short shifter. I'd never driven his car before, and pulled almost 2 tenths better than he was able to muster. I think it depends who's driving, and how used to driving on the track they are.
Originally posted by Nealoc187
I don't think there is any significant difference in quickness, top speed, power, or response to modifications between any years of the 4th gens. BTW VQdriver (Rudy) does have a 96.
Quick drivers run quick times, I don't think it matters what car they are in. Veetec ran 14.7 stock. I ran 14.8 stock. VQ ran 14.3 with intake and y, I ran 14.4 with y, aaron ran 14.2 with i/y/e, etc and the list goes on. That is a pretty good cross section of years, well its 96 vs 97 at least. On another note, I pulled a 14.52 in 99 SEL on heavy 17" wheels with just I/Y/E and a short shifter. I'd never driven his car before, and pulled almost 2 tenths better than he was able to muster. I think it depends who's driving, and how used to driving on the track they are.
I don't think there is any significant difference in quickness, top speed, power, or response to modifications between any years of the 4th gens. BTW VQdriver (Rudy) does have a 96.
Quick drivers run quick times, I don't think it matters what car they are in. Veetec ran 14.7 stock. I ran 14.8 stock. VQ ran 14.3 with intake and y, I ran 14.4 with y, aaron ran 14.2 with i/y/e, etc and the list goes on. That is a pretty good cross section of years, well its 96 vs 97 at least. On another note, I pulled a 14.52 in 99 SEL on heavy 17" wheels with just I/Y/E and a short shifter. I'd never driven his car before, and pulled almost 2 tenths better than he was able to muster. I think it depends who's driving, and how used to driving on the track they are.
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How about THESE results: http://www.iihs.org/vehicle_ratings/ce/html/95012.htm
Anyway I'm still frustrated I'm not consistently in the mid 14s and have never hit low 14s. Maybe since now the weather is cooling down I will be able to. Oh yeah I know Neal is up north where its probably cold as ***** right now.
Anyway I'm still frustrated I'm not consistently in the mid 14s and have never hit low 14s. Maybe since now the weather is cooling down I will be able to. Oh yeah I know Neal is up north where its probably cold as ***** right now.
Originally posted by SprintMax
oh i just doubled checked the timeslips forum.. VQ does have a 97..
oh i just doubled checked the timeslips forum.. VQ does have a 97..
Eric yeah it's cold as ****e right now but that's not to say its been cold when I've been at the track this year. It was pretty cool the last time I was at the track though. Supposed to be 58 this friday, and I'm heading back to the track, last weekend they are open for the year.
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Originally posted by shi89max
well at least 97-99 look better, the better looks make up for the 1 or 2 tenths of a sec that there slower
well at least 97-99 look better, the better looks make up for the 1 or 2 tenths of a sec that there slower
btw, you drive a cougar...
