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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 05:13 AM
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More Brembo Gran Turismo front brakes at deep discount!

My supplier let me know there are a few more sets (very few) of the unequalled Brembo Gran Turismo front brake sets on sale. These won't last long, so I'm just going to take my chances and post the price this time:

Regular price -- $2595
Sale price -- $2195

There are several very happy new owners out there, go ahead and make the stretch to buy the best. 4-piston, big pot Calipers in black, silver and red.

Remember, the Brembos are the only brake sets available that are totally engineered and manufactured by the same company (specifically for the Maxima/I30 instead of generically) instead of basically being thrown together out of a bunch of "who-knows-who-made-it" components like the St**len and Wi**ood sets are. Its the only way you can be certain they'll function properly with your stock master cylinder and be properly proportioned with the stock rear brakes.

Include everything you need, stainless steel brake lines and the works.

Just call my order line during MST business hours at 800.759.9920 and order yours today. Because supplies are low, we will confirm availability before charging your card, and then they'll be drop shipped directly to you!

Remember, if you go fast, you'd better be ready to stop fast!

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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 06:09 AM
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Old Oct 2, 2002 | 09:20 AM
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Re: More Brembo Gran Turismo front brakes at deep discount!

Originally posted by Cattman
.....There are several very happy new owners out there....Brian C Catts
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Please explain
Old Oct 2, 2002 | 11:41 PM
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Kev...

Just curious, since there is no way in hell I could afford or would even bother spending $2Gs+ just for the fronts.

Anyways, what's the pedal feel like? Is it an improvement over the 300Z brakes "mushy" feel? Basically, what the heck difference do they make besides looks and if you actually went to the track preventing brake fade?
Old Oct 3, 2002 | 06:18 AM
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Re: Kev...

Originally posted by RB26DETT



Please explain
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


Just curious, since there is no way in hell I could afford or would even bother spending $2Gs+ just for the fronts.

Anyways, what's the pedal feel like? Is it an improvement over the 300Z brakes "mushy" feel? Basically, what the heck difference do they make besides looks and if you actually went to the track preventing brake fade?
After driving it for a while, the pedal feels almost like stock now. I guess I had to bleed the brakes 2 more times in order for it to feel this way (there was still quite a bit of air in the lines). I would say travel is about .5" to 1" before the big bite.

I haven't tried stomping on the brakes at high speeds yet. Give me about 1-2 more tanks of gas to break in.
Old Oct 3, 2002 | 11:57 PM
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Re: Re: Kev...

Originally posted by Y2KevSE
After driving it for a while, the pedal feels almost like stock now. I guess I had to bleed the brakes 2 more times in order for it to feel this way (there was still quite a bit of air in the lines). I would say travel is about .5" to 1" before the big bite.

I haven't tried stomping on the brakes at high speeds yet. Give me about 1-2 more tanks of gas to break in.
Got G-Tech? Hehe.

I'm curious as to how the ABS is going to compensate for these. That's IF they actually decrease the stopping distance.
Old Oct 4, 2002 | 01:26 AM
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Re: More Brembo Gran Turismo front brakes at deep discount!

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instead of basically being thrown together out of a bunch of "who-knows-who-made-it" components like the St**len and Wi**ood sets are.
AP Racing a who knows who made it company? whatever.......
Old Oct 4, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Kev...

Originally posted by IceY2K1


Got G-Tech? Hehe.

I'm curious as to how the ABS is going to compensate for these. That's IF they actually decrease the stopping distance.
ABS is still going to work like normal (not yet confirmed). If they don't stop better, at least they look cooler. Actually, maybe I shouldn't say that since Brian/Brembo are trying to sell this.
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The should stop better... anyone with bigger (heavier) rims/tires can attest to this. If you have ABS then it will definitely stop better because it will better make use of them (no need to worry about F/R biasing with the larger front rotors)... this is provided that the kit is compatible with the existing ABS sensors at the wheels.
Old Oct 4, 2002 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Chunger
The should stop better... anyone with bigger (heavier) rims/tires can attest to this. If you have ABS then it will definitely stop better because it will better make use of them (no need to worry about F/R biasing with the larger front rotors)... this is provided that the kit is compatible with the existing ABS sensors at the wheels.
Cars with ABS does not necessarily stop better/shorter than cars without ABS. ABS sensor is not affected at all.

Thinking of upgrading from Wilwoods, Chung?
Old Oct 4, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by Chunger
The should stop better... anyone with bigger (heavier) rims/tires can attest to this. If you have ABS then it will definitely stop better because it will better make use of them (no need to worry about F/R biasing with the larger front rotors)... this is provided that the kit is compatible with the existing ABS sensors at the wheels.
For light to medium stops I agree. However, for hard braking to ABS lockup, it all depends on the ABS computers flexibility.
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Actually ABS would help when you brake hard instead... That's when ABS intervenes to prevent lockup... Otherwise the ABS doesn't even function.

No, Kevin, I don't think that much money needs to be spent for big brakes... I'm plenty happy with my 4pot billet calipers and directional vaned rotors. It's been working great for nearly 2 years without ANY problems.
Old Oct 4, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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Wrong....

Originally posted by Chunger
Actually ABS would help when you brake hard instead... That's when ABS intervenes to prevent lockup... Otherwise the ABS doesn't even function.

You NEED to read this thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=124860


More specifically: ABS and Big Brake Kits
Old Oct 4, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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Re: Wrong....

Originally posted by IceY2K1



You NEED to read this thread:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=124860


More specifically: ABS and Big Brake Kits
If that's the case...

I'm much happier with my non-ABS car with BigBrakes and feel sorry for you foo's with ABS the paid 2K+ for those BB kits I doubt if there are BB kits that have less caliper piston SA than our stock caliper piston.

Easy to prove the point.... KEVINg needs to pull the ABS fuse and do a comparison for us.

The other question would be... do all (X gen) have this sophisticated ABS? I must be an old fart cuz this is not how the first ABS modules worked way back in the good ol' days. The point is dead to me as I don't have ABS but believe in "human ABS" as Initial D fans know
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Re: Re: Wrong....

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If that's the case...

I'm much happier with my non-ABS car with BigBrakes and feel sorry for you foo's with ABS the paid 2K+ for those BB kits I doubt if there are BB kits that have less caliper piston SA than our stock caliper piston.

Easy to prove the point.... KEVINg needs to pull the ABS fuse and do a comparison for us.

The other question would be... do all (X gen) have this sophisticated ABS? I must be an old fart cuz this is not how the first ABS modules worked way back in the good ol' days. The point is dead to me as I don't have ABS but believe in "human ABS" as Initial D fans know :laugh
I agree!

$2100 for looks on the FRONT WHEELS ONLY is steep, but to a few autoX racers the fade free brakes and avoiding 12K mile periodic rotor replacement, may be worthwhile.

There has definitely been an evolution in ABS technology and now even traction control and active handling/stability systems will be affected by messing with BB kits.

Someone(Baer or Brembo and Bosch!) need to come up with an ABS computer to sell with these kits. However, the R&D for EACH cars individual characteristics would be EXTREMELY costly. It will never happen!

Human ABS?
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Re: Re: Wrong....

Originally posted by Chunger


If that's the case...

I'm much happier with my non-ABS car with BigBrakes and feel sorry for you foo's with ABS the paid 2K+ for those BB kits I doubt if there are BB kits that have less caliper piston SA than our stock caliper piston.

Easy to prove the point.... KEVINg needs to pull the ABS fuse and do a comparison for us.

The other question would be... do all (X gen) have this sophisticated ABS? I must be an old fart cuz this is not how the first ABS modules worked way back in the good ol' days. The point is dead to me as I don't have ABS but believe in "human ABS" as Initial D fans know
wow I never thought about that oh well maybe I'm better without the ABS with my BBs
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Re: Re: More Brembo Gran Turismo front brakes at deep discount!

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AP Racing a who knows who made it company? whatever.......
I'd like to make sure I'm understood correctly on this. The point I'm making is not a "whatever" issue, or marketing jive.

I'm not saying that either AP Racing or Wilwood are "who knows who made it" companies. The components they actually make range from adequate to excellent. The point I'm making is that neither one fabricates the entire kit themselves, for the Maxima or for most cars, and they're typically not the ones who do the integration of their core parts with the other parts. Their calipers and rotors (made for a variety of applications, i.e. generic) are combined with hubs and other parts (often by whomever is buying them, without the benefit of an engineered integration solution) to produce the application-specific kit.

That's what sets Brembo apart. Its not just that they are the only ones who make the entire kit, their engineers design it as an integrated "whole solution". Thats also why when manufacturers like Porsche, Ferrari and Nissan (i.e. 300ZX track edition) put on premium brakes they are Brembo, not Wilwood, AP or whatever.

Its the reason that Brembos are so good, and it's why they're a little more expensive (although significantly less expensive during this sale).

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Old Oct 4, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Wrong....

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I agree!

$2100 for looks on the FRONT WHEELS ONLY is steep, but to a few autoX racers the fade free brakes and avoiding 12K mile periodic rotor replacement, may be worthwhile.

There has definitely been an evolution in ABS technology and now even traction control and active handling/stability systems will be affected by messing with BB kits.

Someone(Baer or Brembo and Bosch!) need to come up with an ABS computer to sell with these kits. However, the R&D for EACH cars individual characteristics would be EXTREMELY costly. It will never happen!

Human ABS?

A couple of key points, and I'm not taking exception to what Ice is saying, just elaborating.

If you've driven a car with the Brembos, its quite apparent that there is a lot of functional value, in addition to the aesthetic (they are incredibly cool looking, true). Great fade-free braking, and excellent integration with the other key elements of the stock braking system, i.e. master cylinder and the rear brakes.

Regarding "front brakes only", keep in mind there is no such thing as a full 4-wheel brake set for the Maxima. Although there would obviously be a market for them, Brembo makes very few rear brake systems. Go to their site (www.brembo.com) to read their reasons for that; they just aren't needed. All the stopping power is focussed in the front. To upgrade the rears, you don't need to do any more than swap out the rotors and put in some good pads, and Brembo provides solutions for both.

That said, whether you're going to spring for the Brembo fronts or not, be sure to buy "fully genuine" Brembo rotors. Some companies, and I can think of one large-volume Maxima supplier in particular, are selling generic Brembo rotor blanks that have been machined (drilled, grooved whatever) and adapted by others (i.e. "who-knows-who machine shops again ;-) ) for the Maxima. I think they're sold as "Bianchi Brembos". There is no such thing in the Brembo catalogue and they are not authorized by them.

No Brembo guarantee, and none of Brembo's very critical expertise machining those holes/grooves (temperature, stress relief, etc.). They're cheaper (i.e. cheap) but if you go back to Brembo with a warranty issue there is no recourse since they didn't do the critical machine work.

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