i know i've had some hairbrained ideas in the past, but this is by far the most out there. if someone with a JWT ECU could have the chip read for its coding, and send it to me via email, that would be great. if you could figure out what the coding means(A/F, timing, whatever is changed from the stock unit), that'd be even better. someone must be all into computers and have access to this sort of thing...

 

I'm pretty sure there is a software package out there designed for this. A few months ago before I graduated from _____University, I had taken classes in which we used a water brake Dyno and things of that nature. In addition, I had some friends in the formula SAE program in which they build a small formula car from the ground up powered by a 600cc crotch rocket engine. The thing went 0-60 in like 4 sec and handled like a true formula car. So anyway my point is, they has a program that they used to adjust all of the timing and fuel maps on the engine's ECU while simultaneously dynotuning it. I'm almost 100% sure this software can be used for any automotive application. So if you have a JWT ECU and the software/hardware necessary, you can see the settings as they are graphically. Then it is just a matter of repetition. The whole reason the JWT ECU is expensive is the extensive dyno type they had to put into setting up the program. I'll see what I can do, I still have plenty of connections with the SAE program

 

i just need the coding and a key to that code because it'll need to be in the format the ECU can read. IE i get the code, modify it how i see fit, get it burned to an EEPROM/EPROM/whatever the JWT unit is and it'll work flawlessly (as far as being functional goes, my settings may need work)

thanks for taking the time to help me out too!

 

No one is going to do your dirty work . Guys have been trying for years to do this to other nissans. Now there have been few to crack the code but that is after years of working on it. It would be easier for you to crack the factory code than JWT's, just work on a stock ECU till you have it cracked. Then have your car dyno tuned, other than that you won't get a JWT code. That is unless you buy a JWT ecu and decode it yourself. Check back in 2-4 years to see if you have it cracked yet .

 

how about this, someone just gives me the JWT code and i'll be satisfied.

 

I opened a friends JWT ecu, and it isnt simply replacing an EPROM, they add an interface board. So you would have to buy an ecu and reverse engineer it.

 

up, down, left, right, a, b, a, b select, start

 

hmmmmm, that makes things very difficult.

 

Here's an idea, buy the software and stuff, spend a day or a week dynotuning your **it, then save the settings. Now offer to reprogram people's **it for a better price and you'll lock down the market on that one.

 

 

whats the name of the program?

 

I'll make some calls this week and let you know.

 

Contra?
Oh and Pat........I will split dyno time with you if tips are good in the next few months

 

wow, thats great you get tips, i dont
any other mostly legit ways to make money and i'm in.. this whole paying rent thing is killin' my modding money..haha its worth it

 

trying to crack JWT's ecu code isn't exactly a "legit" thing to do either. why do you think they're so expensive? those guys spend years working on those things.


I just love it when people just expect someone to hand them over years of work, so they can copy it, change a few tiny things, then pass it off as their own.

 

i dont really expect anything. i hope. its not a big deal if i dont get the coding for the ECU, i'd at least like the specs (what is changed from stock..numbers wise, not just "air fuel ratio, mapping, ignition stuff")
also, i dont try to pass off something as my own unless it is my own.

as far as things being legit, i'm not really concerned with that either. correct me if i'm wrong, but its not illegal to copy anything exactly as long as its not sold for profit (or sold at all...selling is covered under distribution if you were going to say that). and even so, whats JWT going to do? "you copied our ECU specs" so what? they cant copyright numbers. i really hate to be an @$$hole because thats not how i get advice/help, but sometimes it needs to be done.

 

Yes, that's why I'm saying be original and legit. Get the software and spend some time tuning it. May take a while, but would be worth it and could open a little business opportunity. Offer a good service at a good price. i'd be willing to do it, but for now I'm A) broke and B) not enough time. When will it ever change?

 

I think you're still missing the point. you're STILL stealing someone else's work and passing it off as your own, whether you sell it or not. What if I stole a paper you'd written for a class, changed a few words here and there, then turned it in for my class? I didn't make any money on it, so it's not still considered plagiarism?

JWT has spent a lot of time an money on researching the proper fuel and ignition mapping for their ECUs. if you want the same gains, it will cost you thousands to do the work to do it, and will likely cost you just as much to "build" an ECU that will do the same as theirs. the logical (and legit) thing to do is just buy theirs and be done with it. I almost guarantee that you won't be able to get more than 5hp more out of your ECU than they get out of theirs.

Now, if you want to get into the complete custom tuning end of things.... buy a MoTeC and go to town.

 

Why not just buy like a greddy E-manage and tune your own car? I believe it can be bought for $700-800 with the injector/ignition harnesses. Then you can tune your own car to whatever you like. You'd have a better chance of stealing a CAI and copying it for yourself then marketing it .

 

And also anyone remotely familiar with cryptography, hash algorithms, etc. knows you can use a good enough encryption scheme where it would take decades to decipher....

I would rather enjoy my life and spend $600 on one and reward someone else's hard work, but that's just me......

 

pricing? i'd rather have an adjustable unit then a set type thing.

 

How do you know, what the hell you'll be doing with a DIY engine management? Judging by your posts you don't seem very knowledgeable about engine tuning. I say buy a stand alone and tune away, if you can't afford that, then just buy a jwt ecu and decode it yourself.

 

like Matt said, you'll have a much easier time using the Motec unit and "attempting" to tune it yourself, rather than trying to crack JWTs code.

 

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