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Old Oct 8, 2002 | 09:33 PM
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cut intrax

performed search and kinda found some thing but, i want to buy some intrax and cut off the first coil on the just the front springs will i experence any rubbing. i herd they will not loose stiff nesses if i dont heat them up or use a torch to cut them. has any one doen this or herd of any one doing this.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 05:45 AM
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I "herd" that was not a smart thing to do.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 06:13 AM
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Re: cut intrax

Originally posted by kingrye
performed search and kinda found some thing but, i want to buy some intrax and cut off the first coil on the just the front springs will i experence any rubbing. i herd they will not loose stiff nesses if i dont heat them up or use a torch to cut them. has any one doen this or herd of any one doing this.
Yeah, there's a guy on here (can't remember his name right now and don't feel like lookin) who has done this and he only uses them for shows. Swaps his springs out before every show. Said he tried to drive with them and it was aweful. Every bump felt like the strut was going to slam through the hood and it rode like crap. Anyone who does this to thier Maxima and expects it to be drivable is going to be extremely dissapointed when they ruin thier car. If you want your **** slammed, put it on bags...
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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Accepted theory is you get a 10% increase in spring rate for every coil removed. So unless you have some serious dampers, increasing the rate on an already stiff spring is not wise. The only time I have ever seen properly cut coils they were stock coils on upgraded dampers, cut and ground flat.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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Accepted theory is you get a 10% increase in spring rate for every coil removed. So unless you have some serious dampers, increasing the rate on an already stiff spring is not wise. The only time I have ever seen properly cut coils they were stock coils on upgraded dampers, cut and ground flat.
... did you just say "'properly' cut coils"????
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:01 AM
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... did you just say "'properly' cut coils"????
My question here would be, why would you cut Intrax springs, when you can just get some Sprint Extreme's which give you a greater drop (2", if I'm not mistaken...)??? I mean, like nismo1989 hinted at... there's no "proper" way to cut springs. That's just darned STOOOPID, ya herd??
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:10 AM
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Sprints drop 1.8" and aren't really any lower than Intrax, but I do like the "hot rod" stance they leave better than the completely "slammed" Intrax look!

Originally posted by nubiannupe
My question here would be, why would you cut Intrax springs, when you can just get some Sprint Extreme's which give you a greater drop (2", if I'm not mistaken...)??? I mean, like nismo1989 hinted at... there's no "proper" way to cut springs. That's just darned STOOOPID, ya herd??
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
Sprints drop 1.8" and aren't really any lower than Intrax, but I do like the "hot rod" stance they leave better than the completely "slammed" Intrax look!

Addae, I thought that Intrax was 1.5" and Sprints were 1.8". I also talked to someone that said Sprint's came in the so-called "regular" 1.8" drop and the "Extreme" 2" drop....

(oh, and my radio deal came through today, so I won't be able to get the hood... sorry.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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naw Intrax is 1.75(Susupension Tech is 1.5")...I think the "Extremes" are the ones for the 4th gen(cause my boy has Sprints on his '95 and the box said 2") but if they do have 2 versions for the same car that would be kinda weird. I would have gone with the 2" though if I'd have known!

don't waorry about the hood man...I got one more guy on the list befor I keep it for myself!

Originally posted by nubiannupe
Addae, I thought that Intrax was 1.5" and Sprints were 1.8". I also talked to someone that said Sprint's came in the so-called "regular" 1.8" drop and the "Extreme" 2" drop....

(oh, and my radio deal came through today, so I won't be able to get the hood... sorry.
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Originally posted by nismo1989


... did you just say "'properly' cut coils"????
Yeah, you can properly cut springs, if yo uare conservative (not hacking 3 coils off), use a grinder, make a flat for proper seating and match dampers to it. Dynamic suspension system design is all the same, matching spring rates and damping rates, knowing the weight of the vehicle. Overdampen adn you get a stiff *** ride, underdampen and you bounce all over. Whether or not it was made at a factory is unimportant..trial and error works best. Put eibach's on KYB's and you are underdampened..period. Might handle ok for an average driver, but autocross it for a whiel, then drive something that is set up right (same car even) and you will know the difference. So if you trial and error and find that on your 87 sentra, 2 coils off the stock springs and Kyb dampers make it handle the best with 3/4 in sway bars, that that could be considered "proper". Dig? Only dangerous if you are a ******* and don't know what you are doing. Like hacked coils not properly seated on worn out stock dampers and bald tires. My defense rests
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:32 PM
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Yeah, you can properly cut springs, if yo uare conservative (not hacking 3 coils off), use a grinder, make a flat for proper seating and match dampers to it. Dynamic suspension system design is all the same, matching spring rates and damping rates, knowing the weight of the vehicle. Overdampen adn you get a stiff *** ride, underdampen and you bounce all over. Whether or not it was made at a factory is unimportant..trial and error works best. Put eibach's on KYB's and you are underdampened..period. Might handle ok for an average driver, but autocross it for a whiel, then drive something that is set up right (same car even) and you will know the difference. So if you trial and error and find that on your 87 sentra, 2 coils off the stock springs and Kyb dampers make it handle the best with 3/4 in sway bars, that that could be considered "proper". Dig? Only dangerous if you are a ******* and don't know what you are doing. Like hacked coils not properly seated on worn out stock dampers and bald tires. My defense rests
Yeah, and I'm sure he has the money and resources to do that. Look, he was obviously wanting to slam his ride and wanted to know if he could get away with cutting down what was already the lowest drop spring he could find for his Maxima. I believe I answered his question in my first reply. Had it been a millionaire with a lot of time on his hands and an unusual lust for a 10+ year old car (3rd gen Maxima), then I may have been a little more optimistic, but thanks for your elaboration anyway .
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:35 PM
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someone hurry and test out the Stanza coilovers!!!!!!
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:38 PM
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someone hurry and test out the Stanza coilovers!!!!!!
no ****. Whatever happenned with that???
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:40 PM
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Yeah, and I'm sure he has the money and resources to do that. Look, he was obviously wanting to slam his ride and wanted to know if he could get away with cutting down what was already the lowest drop spring he could find for his Maxima. I believe I answered his question in my first reply. Had it been a millionaire with a lot of time on his hands and an unusual lust for a 10+ year old car (3rd gen Maxima), then I may have been a little more optimistic, but thanks for your elaboration anyway .
Yeah OK if you look closely I was replying to YOU questioning the prospect of properly cut springs. He had nothing to do with it. OK?
OK. And trust me, It doesn't take a millionaire. I know plenty of average folks with nothing but time on their hands and a beater car they race, on blocks in the front yard. Trial and error with cheap parts is a fun way to do it. Ever read Grassroots Motorsports?
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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no ****. Whatever happenned with that???
Yeah, who was gonna do that anyway??
(oh... I think I said I was gonna give it a try...) But I just bought a new DVD setup, so that money's out the window. Maybe if I sell my current set-up, I'll have the funds for it...
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:45 PM
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Ever read Grassroots Motorsports?
Yup...

it doesn't really matter anyway. Like I said before, I was totally helping the guy out by keeping him from ruining his Maxima. I wasn't trying to get into the physics of suspension dampening and spring rates. Anything is possible with the right resources, but he wasn't asking about that.

If there was any question about the logistics of cut springs, let the record show that male has cleared it up today!
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 12:50 PM
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Re: cut intrax

Originally posted by kingrye
performed search and kinda found some thing but, i want to buy some intrax and cut off the first coil on the just the front springs will i experence any rubbing. i herd they will not loose stiff nesses if i dont heat them up or use a torch to cut them. has any one doen this or herd of any one doing this.
Dont cut springs

If you want a low ride go with Sprints.

Any lower and you are going to have serious clearence problems...
Old Oct 9, 2002 | 01:00 PM
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Didn't mean to beat a dead horse, or go off on tangent. Just saying, depending on the application, cut springs can work. That's it. Daily driven 3400lb car? no, of course not. I just wanted to argue and **** as many people off as I could. be contradictory. Spice it up ya know? Dude don't cut your springs.
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