I am sick of using el cheapo Purolater oil filters. So I changed to Fram, which .org members despise so very much fervently.

Seriously though, isn't FRAM better than Nissan OEM oil filter b/c FRAM is $$$ than OEM filter?

Or isn't it?

And people who defend NGK plugs to death, uh, how much did you guys pay for a pack of 6 platinums and where?

The last time I changed my plugs, I put autolites which the .org members again hate so much with such zeal.

And what kind of extension device did you guys use to put those spark plugs? I mean, I used 6 of those extenders and it was pain in the @ss.

 

Damn that was dumb



Damn you need to read more.



Damn, ditto on above



Damn that was dumber

Damn, I give up!

 

hahah

 

Does this mean that after 10K or so with my cheap autolites and with FRAM, I have to smoke a similar max that uses NGK coppers and OEM filters?

bump this thread, when I get my flo masta' (from a stang) hear my noise and rice out

 

Is Engrish your native language?

Oh and... $20!

 

this guy should be banned for using autolites and fram.. he is setting a bad example and could cause others to blow their engines.. where is my report to moderator button...

 

Holy Fram sucks Batman. Spend the $$ now or even more later when you have engine probs...your call

 

What a waste of bandwidth.

 

Could you please add the following option to your poll:

[ ] I am an idiot.

 

Should we school him or what?

 

People, I asked for advice, not hatred.
I knew I would be flamed like h@ll.

But seriously the technical specs of NGK vs Autolite spark plugs

NGK Laser Platinum
As the name implies, state of the art laser welding procedures are used in the manufacturing of NGK Laser Platinum Spark Plugs. These spark plugs are manufactured to the rigorous demands of OEM car makers and modern service length requirements. Among the features of the NGK Laser Platinum Spark Plug are:

Lasers are used for pinpoint precision welds, reducing excess debris. The reduction of debris decreases the required voltage to bridge the spark gap.
Platinum tips welded on the ground and center electrodes reduce the wear rate on both of these surfaces.
Ensures greater durability and long life.
Single platinum spark plug, which has platinum tip on the center electrode.

Autolite Double Platinum
Double platinum spark plug, which has platinum tip on the center and side wire. The Autolite® Double Platinum Spark Plug design maintains optimal performance longer.

Original OE design
Platinum to platinum firing
30% more durable*
Maintains optimal performance longer
Virtually no gap erosion
Nickel-plated threads and shell
Top fuel efficiency over the life of the plug
5-year unlimited mileage money-back guarantee

Distributorless Ignition System (DIS) *

This is the most common ignition system used on over 80% or more of today's engines. This system causes half of the spark plugs in the engine to fire in an unconventional way.


From a spark plug point of view:

Conventional
The electricity leaves the center electrode and jumps to the side electrode. This causes most of the wear to occur on the center electrode.


Unconventional
The electricity leaves the side electrode and jumps to the center electrode. This causes most of the wear to occur on the side electrode.


Autolite® Double Platinum spark plugs are designed to withstand firing in both directions because they have platinum on both the side and center electrodes.


The platinum on both of the electrodes gives maximum performance and longer life by preventing gap growth and erosion.

These plugs were designed for OE (Original Equipment) DIS usage. The spark plug fires on the compression stroke and on the exhaust stroke, so it fires twice as often as it did in the conventional Distributor Ignition System. In addition to the platinum electrodes, this spark plug is engineered to meet the demands of the OE design for heat range and gap setting. The Autolite® Double Platinum spark plug design maintains optimal performance longer.

 

Fram and Autolite are the best! Please continue to use them and spare the rest of us the manufacturer's marketing hype.

 

I had to use a fram filter last weekend!

I couldn't get a OEM Nissan one, so should I go get one or just leave this one ON?

 

I agree with Bill.
I am sad I wasted even a minute of my life with this.

 

AND

Anybody care to run with either of these 2 statements? Neither of which I believe to be true with our ignition systems.

 

 

Fram Extra Guard
FRAM Extra Guard filter uses a thick, multi-fiber media and provides a maze to trap contaminants effectively.

Before oil enters the engine lubrication system, it passes through the oil filter. The filter's job is to remove potentially engine-damaging dirt particles.

To provide the best engine protection, the maximum amount of dirt should be removed the first time the dirt passes through the filter before it reaches the engine.

The FRAM Extra Guard filter performs at 96.2% efficiency in the single-pass efficiency tests.

And like the FRAM® Tough Guard oil filter, the Extra Guard filter features our advanced synthetic glass and cellulose media, which is a combination of synthetic glass and cellulose uniquely formulated for top-rated efficiency for the life of the filter.

Genuine Nissan Oil Filter
Nissan filters, while removing impurities effectively, have an ample filtering capacity and a long service life, two times that of other inferior quality filters generally found in the market.

They have a high performance drain-back preventive valve, resulting in only 10 to 20 ml (0.3 to 0.7 US fl oz, o.4 to 0.7 Imp fl oz) of oil returning to the oil pan within 24 hours after the engine is turned off. On the contrary, some non-genuine parts can cause 250 cc (8.5 US fl oz, 8.8 Imp fl oz) of oil to drain back within only two hours after the engine is turned off, which would most probably cause the rupturing of oil film when the engine is started and thus damage the cylinders.


Using imitation parts of inferior quality may cause oil leaks and, in the worst case, seizure of the engine.

Filter life is determined by the size of the filter paper. With most poor quality imitation parts, the filter paper has only a 60% filtering area compared with that of the genuine Nissan oil filter. A smaller filtering area results in inferior filtering. In other words, once the filter paper becomes clogged, oil flow is not as smooth as it should be. Therefore, poor quality oil filters have a short life and are liable to result in stalling or reduced power. On the other hand, Nissan oil filters provide a sufficiently large and corrugation-finished filtration area, and they stand a long life.

 

moderators, how did you like my blood?
And now I'm getting hate mail because I wanted more serious knowledge about performance parts and not just brand name hypes

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STFU and go crawl back into the hole you came out of.



ADTHANKSVANCE!

 

keep it on .. even with your supercharger

BOOM

 

 

SprintMax,

I'm not S/C just yet, but rest assured when that baby gets on there, It'll be O.E. Nissan all the way

No boom boom for me, unless it's somewhere else w/ my lady friend

 

In that case you should be referring to "Poom Poom!!"

 

Why yes........poom poom it is

 

This poll is unusable because the first two options and the last one are the same thing

SuDZ

 

 

despite all the hate in this thread, I'm not a hater. I personally think nissan stuff is definitely going to be pretty good. I don't use fram or autolite. I'm glad you enjoy the stuff. I wouldn't buy any of the low line fram because they're bad quality(no antidrain feature). Their higher line oil filters are probably pretty good, but for that price I'd rather buy nissan(inexpensive) or amsoil. As for spark plugs, I don't know. haven't hit 60k.

 

personally i think that fram oil filters are good weve been using them on all our cars and our mercedes reached up to bout 300k b4 we sold it and never any oil problems spark plugs no comment

 

Thread Terrorism will not be tolerated; its consequences will be hard to face.





Official Counter-Moderator Terrorism Special Task Force #1

 

i wanna join the force sign me off

 

Member #2. signed on.

Help us fight Moderator Terrorism!

 

no.

 

The correlation you try to make between moderator actions and terrorism are irresponsible, ignorant, and flat out stupid. Take a moment to THINK (which is something you obviously have trouble with) about what terrorism really means. If you do, you would realize your words would only have meaning if you were physically harmed BY a moderator.


This post is nothing more than flame bait surrounded by marketing product literature and an admission from yourself that you know the pros and cons of the very products you say are not necessary for proper maintenance of your vehicle.

You can drive the car off a cliff for all most of us care, but your propagandist attempts at trying to incite flame wars and smartass responses makes you the start and end of the one responsible for doing so.


Get off of this site, and don't bother posting anything in a forum I moderate. It will be immediately deleted.



Have a nice day.

 

 

OUCH