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well i finally took my '96 5spd to the tranny shop...

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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 08:30 PM
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well i finally took my '96 5spd to the tranny shop...

yup

some of you guys may remember my posts a month ago or so about my tranny making the whining sound... well i just made sure the tranny level has been up since then and i took it to the tranny shop. The mechanic drove my car... then he started talkin about mods and asked me why i like nissan over honda . He was early twenties... pointed out his riced civic when we left the shop to do the road test. anyways, besides the "oh wow this car is powerful, how much did it cost u blah blah blah," he said he wasn't sure what the problem is until he dropped the tranny and took a look, but from the sound it is most likely the differential bearings. I wasn't surprised by his analysis. But anyways, he said it'd take about 8 hours worth of labor which then equals $675... then plus whatever the cost is for parts.

It's really strange, for about a week the car was leaking tranny oil, then after changing it it completely stopped. It'd probably leak maybe ONE drop every now and then. I cleaned up the area where it was leaking to help better pin-point it but everytime i look under there, i see no trace of oil.

so yeah.... first and second gear is gettin annoying w/ the whining sound it makes now. the money i was saving for a body kit is now being saved to help repair my tranny

this really sucks, i mean i understand i have 141k miles on the car and that most ppl got that problem a LOT earlier, but i maintained this car a million times more than my old 89 celica.. it's beaten on mountain roads over and over... at 180k, the only major prob i had w/ it was CV joints, brakes, and starter.

OMFG i just remember too, i had the tranny dropped anyways when my maxima was at 120k in order to change the clutch, the ******* problem shouldda come up back then
Old Nov 13, 2002 | 10:00 PM
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We all wish it was that simple; it would be nice to replace things all at once and not pay the labor to redo a similiar job Sorry to hear about your transmission woes, but I may be in the same boat. My drivers side axle seal has failed twice (replaced once under warranty 50k, and replaced again at 58k).

Maybe it's time to learn to work on my own transmission.
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Old Nov 13, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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We all wish it was that simple; it would be nice to replace things all at once and not pay the labor to redo a similiar job Sorry to hear about your transmission woes, but I may be in the same boat. My drivers side axle seal has failed twice (replaced once under warranty 50k, and replaced again at 58k).

Maybe it's time to learn to work on my own transmission.
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i am sooooo up for doin this myself, but I don't know anyone w/ experience who could help me out... and if i do, it's askin for alot of their time which i'd probably feel bad for. blah
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 01:12 AM
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take it to a college that offers ASE training and they can probably have their class do the labor for free as long as you provide the parts and a couple days downtime
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 02:56 PM
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i am sooooo up for doin this myself, but I don't know anyone w/ experience who could help me out... and if i do, it's askin for alot of their time which i'd probably feel bad for. blah
Unless you have a bunch of experience and know how, replacing the bearings is not something I'd jump into yourself. Removing the tranny by yourself and taking it to a mechanic to have them do the bearings is another story. Since this is also the bulk of the labor, you'll save yourself a ton of money as well.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Unless you have a bunch of experience and know how, replacing the bearings is not something I'd jump into yourself. Removing the tranny by yourself and taking it to a mechanic to have them do the bearings is another story. Since this is also the bulk of the labor, you'll save yourself a ton of money as well.
not a bad idea.... will most places work on it that way and not give grief.. some shops are odd in how they like everything done in a certain way and will not want to warranty it or something.

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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 03:13 PM
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not a bad idea.... will most places work on it that way and not give grief.. some shops are odd in how they like everything done in a certain way and will not want to warranty it or something.

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As long as you give them the complete tranny, they shouldn't have a problem. All the work they will be doing is inside it. It's easier on them too. They won't have to go to the trouble of taking it out and tying up space in their shop. It's a quicky job for them and they can move on to something else in a few hours instead of a day or so. If you start to disassemble the tranny, they might get a little bent out of shape though.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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Whine...

I have that same problem... It went away for a while, now its back and more annoying than ever... But hell, better excuse to play music louder :P

Imma just wait till the whole damn thing goes out then replace it. Im poor and cheap.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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I really hate the transmission of this car.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by xHypex
We all wish it was that simple; it would be nice to replace things all at once and not pay the labor to redo a similiar job Sorry to hear about your transmission woes, but I may be in the same boat. My drivers side axle seal has failed twice (replaced once under warranty 50k, and replaced again at 58k).

Maybe it's time to learn to work on my own transmission.
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My drive axel seal has had a small leak for a while now. A few days ago I happend to be looking thruogh the file I keep on my car and found that the previous owner had the dive axel seal fixed twice!! The last time was at a Infiniti dealership over a year ago. I am hoping they stand behind their work. I'm going to go talk to them this weekend.
Old Nov 14, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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My drive axel seal has had a small leak for a while now. A few days ago I happend to be looking thruogh the file I keep on my car and found that the previous owner had the dive axel seal fixed twice!! The last time was at a Infiniti dealership over a year ago. I am hoping they stand behind their work. I'm going to go talk to them this weekend.
For factory warranty work you get 1 year or 12,000 miles (whichever comes first). My seal was replaced under warranty the first time at 50k, and should have been replaced under warranty the second time at 58k(long story they blamed my accident which didn't even affect the area, but insurance picked up the tab). If this happens again I will be out of my powertrain warranty, but I have the information filed that the seal has been replaced twice and failed withing 8k the first time.
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Old Nov 14, 2002 | 09:24 PM
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As long as you give them the complete tranny, they shouldn't have a problem. All the work they will be doing is inside it. It's easier on them too. They won't have to go to the trouble of taking it out and tying up space in their shop. It's a quicky job for them and they can move on to something else in a few hours instead of a day or so. If you start to disassemble the tranny, they might get a little bent out of shape though.
hmm... I'm only worreid about them *****ing and saying that i ****ed it up trying to take it out or something... i wasn't anticipating this kinda problem and I can't afford to pay for it now. I can make sure to maintain the tranny oil level... but what happens eventually? I'm assuming the bearings shred up, sending metals through the tranny and ****in everythin else up?
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 06:07 AM
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hmm... I'm only worreid about them *****ing and saying that i ****ed it up trying to take it out or something... i wasn't anticipating this kinda problem and I can't afford to pay for it now. I can make sure to maintain the tranny oil level... but what happens eventually? I'm assuming the bearings shred up, sending metals through the tranny and ****in everythin else up?
Call around and ask different shops before hand if it will be a problem if you bring the tranny to them. That way, you won't have to worry about it.

Letting the bearings go can lead to a more expensive repair later down the road. Pay a little now, or pay a lot later is what it comes down to.
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 06:38 AM
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i am sooooo up for doin this myself, but I don't know anyone w/ experience who could help me out... and if i do, it's askin for alot of their time which i'd probably feel bad for. blah
I rebuilt my manual transmission before doing the swap. It is not difficult as far as these things go, but you have to have tools (nothing special though), space and time. And a FSM. Be patient and don't get in a hurry. I can't tell you how rewarding it is to accelerate the car up through the gears now, knowing that I did this. Kind of like Tom Hanks in Castaway after he finally got the fire started.
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 06:56 AM
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Re: well i finally took my '96 5spd to the tranny shop...

Originally posted by nadir_s
yup

some of you guys may remember my posts a month ago or so about my tranny making the tranny dropped anyways when my maxima was at 120k in order to change the clutch, the ******* problem shouldda come up back then

I had the same whining in first and second and barely in third they have had my car for four days now and it should be ready today. I think it was the input bearing but I decided to get a new bearing kit the kit contains all six bearings and I dread to think that I replace only bearing that was bad and six months another bearing goes out. The bearing kit cost $169.00

I will be very dissapointed if I have to even "touch the tranny over the next 3 years
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 12:08 PM
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Re: Re: well i finally took my '96 5spd to the tranny shop...

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I had the same whining in first and second and barely in third they have had my car for four days now and it should be ready today. I think it was the input bearing but I decided to get a new bearing kit the kit contains all six bearings and I dread to think that I replace only bearing that was bad and six months another bearing goes out. The bearing kit cost $169.00

I will be very dissapointed if I have to even "touch the tranny over the next 3 years
how much did the labor cost u?
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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Re: Re: Re: well i finally took my '96 5spd to the tranny shop...

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how much did the labor cost u?
$350.00, I think this is because I have made three trips to see this guy

3rd Gen (rebuilt Tranny)
4th Gen Throw out gearing and clutch
now all bearings, I hope to be out of the door for well under $600
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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i didn't see this post i get a whinding noise 1st and revrse LH seal keeps on leaking replace 4 times. so the i searched and found out its the freaking bearing grrrrr sounds like i can't do it my self and i working at ford dealership. i thought it would of been easy (since i got a whole shop with tools, lifts) i have to pull out 1,000 out of my A$$ plus a clutch ACT $400 gesh plus i wanna get redline trans fluid. i never win i just bought the car 5 month ago no warrty.
Old Nov 15, 2002 | 04:16 PM
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Last time I had my tranny fixed I pulled it myself and took it to a trans shop. They were impressed that I'd pulled my own trans and only charged me for parts ($300) to fix a blown second gear.

As for your bearings...they are VERY cheap...like $30 a piece. Find a local .org member with some experience with this car (not necessarily trans experience) and pull it yourself and save the money. You will need some extra tools that you probably don't already have.

Some of these include:
-pry bar for removing drivers axle
-36mm socket and BIG A$$ breaker bar (if you don't have air tools) to remove axle nuts.
-lots of extensions and swivels

I found out when I did mine that contrary to the FSM, you DO NOT have to remove the battery tray or the y-pipe to pull the trans.

Good luck with whatever you decide...if you were around Chicago I'd offer to help ya..
Old Nov 17, 2002 | 05:24 PM
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anyone know where i can buy a bearing kit? casue i got the same problem.
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