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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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Which SPRINGS w/STOCK struts/shocks?

ONLY PEOPLE WITH THE SETUP PLEEEEEEEASE REPLY.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 08:53 AM
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i have had eibach and stock shocks for a year and its fine....TRUST IN ROB VAN DAM!!!!
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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I had Ground Controls. They were killing my struts.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 09:11 AM
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This is well known, but H&R with toks if you want to have a more aggressive appearance and better performance with a close to stock ride.
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Only 6-people have springs?

Come on now....


Any Progress or Sprint people out there?
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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how come you didn't include Eibachs?
i had Eibachs with stock struts/shocks for a while. i hated it.
i don't think u should even think about doing this set-up(with any springs) unless ur car was brand-spanking new!
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by irvine78
how come you didn't include Eibachs?
i had Eibachs with stock struts/shocks for a while. i hated it.
i don't think u should even think about doing this set-up(with any springs) unless ur car was brand-spanking new!
I second that! I couldn't stand the ride with h&r's on stock, let alone think about eibachs on stock.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 11:42 AM
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Auuugh the haters....LOL!

Originally posted by irvine78
how come you didn't include Eibachs?
i had Eibachs with stock struts/shocks for a while. i hated it.
i don't think u should even think about doing this set-up(with any springs) unless ur car was brand-spanking new!
Just kidding!

Why not? I bought an extra set of shocks/struts(Nissan OEM Tokicos) and put less than 10K miles(95+% hwy) per year on my car.

I'm waiting for KYB AGXs to come out next year. If not, Progress or Tein coilovers. Otherwise, Koni inserts. I just need something NOW for a temporary solution.

Is the ride that horrible? Or are you just saying that, because the stockers will die fast?
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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Re: Auuugh the haters....LOL!

Originally posted by IceY2K1


Just kidding!

Why not? I bought an extra set of shocks/struts(Nissan OEM Tokicos) and put less than 10K miles(95+% hwy) per year on my car.

I'm waiting for KYB AGXs to come out next year. If not, Progress or Tein coilovers. Otherwise, Koni inserts. I just need something NOW for a temporary solution.

Is the ride that horrible? Or are you just saying that, because the stockers will die fast?
not only that, why would u want to pay labor twice for what is pretty much identical install? plus, it's going to ride like hell anywayz..i always tell people to wait and save up for the shocks and get it installed at the same time. most times will charge you the same labor for it too.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 11:56 AM
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Re: Re: Auuugh the haters....LOL!

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not only that, why would u want to pay labor twice for what is pretty much identical install? plus, it's going to ride like hell anywayz..i always tell people to wait and save up for the shocks and get it installed at the same time. most times will charge you the same labor for it too.
No cost, since I'm doing it myself. I actually enjoy this kind of stuff, it's my stress reliever. As long as it lasts for 8-10K miles, which I've heard is not uncommon with H&Rs, but not with Eibachs.

Can you describe what you hated with your ride on Eibachs/Stock?
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Auuugh the haters....LOL!

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No cost, since I'm doing it myself. I actually enjoy this kind of stuff, it's my stress reliever. As long as it lasts for 8-10K miles, which I've heard is not uncommon with H&Rs, but not with Eibachs.

Can you describe what you hated with your ride on Eibachs/Stock?
well still! it's not easy doing the rear springs and shocks..it'll save you alot of back aches!

it rode ok as long as the stock shocks lasted. but once the shocks start yelling 'i quit!', you better hold on to your steering real tight when you hit a dip or a bump while ur turning or going fast.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 12:11 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Auuugh the haters....LOL!

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No cost, since I'm doing it myself. I actually enjoy this kind of stuff, it's my stress reliever. As long as it lasts for 8-10K miles, which I've heard is not uncommon with H&Rs, but not with Eibachs.

Can you describe what you hated with your ride on Eibachs/Stock?
Well one thing that you have going for you is that you live in Arizona. If you lived in a colder climate with terrible roads as I do, I would not recomend going with stock shocks on any springs. I was on h&r and stock and it was not the greatest.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 12:25 PM
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from a dynamics standpoint...adding aftermarket springs to stock struts isnt a good idea.

the new springs have a larger spring coefficient than the damper is designed for. thats why you bounce on dips and bumps. the new springs will help in cornering on good road because they are just resisting motion, nothing to dampen. the stock struts just dont provide enough dampening to retard the bouncing of the springs.

just my thoughts...
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by vinnieloo
from a dynamics standpoint...adding aftermarket springs to stock struts isnt a good idea.

the new springs have a larger spring coefficient than the damper is designed for. thats why you bounce on dips and bumps. the new springs will help in cornering on good road because they are just resisting motion, nothing to dampen. the stock struts just dont provide enough dampening to retard the bouncing of the springs.

just my thoughts...
I hear ya! However, the aftermarket doesn't!


My only choice is 4th gen. Koni inserts for the FRONT shocks and 4th gen AGXs for the REAR struts, which NOBODY has tried yet. I don't think I'm up for being the guniea pig on this one.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 02:48 PM
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...I have had H&R's on my stock shocks/struts of my 2002 SE for almost a year, about 15,000 miles. It was new when I put em on, and they are great. I will eventually put Toks on with my H&R's, but I have no complaints. Of course, I also have the RSB and FSTB so mine feels very tied down in the twisties...
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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Originally posted by Matthew
...I have had H&R's on my stock shocks/struts of my 2002 SE for almost a year, about 15,000 miles. It was new when I put em on, and they are great. I will eventually put Toks on with my H&R's, but I have no complaints. Of course, I also have the RSB and FSTB so mine feels very tied down in the twisties...
Same here, I have 2002 SE with H&Rs on stock shocks. Love the ride and car handles great.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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Matthew and Dany

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Same here, I have 2002 SE with H&Rs on stock shocks. Love the ride and car handles great.
Do you have any pictures? I've seen MichaelAE's H&R drop pictures and he had 1.5" gap in front and 0.75" gap in rear. Does that sound about right for your drop?

I thank you for your comments, especially since the 2002 Maximas supposedly have softer struts than my 2001, so I should last at least that long. I'm really leaning towards the H&Rs again vs. Maxspeeds/Progress/Sprints, since I'm going to be running stock struts/shocks. Otherwise, probably the Progress or Maxspeeds.

Now I just have to find a cheap price on H&Rs!
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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Ive had my Eibachs on for 1 year now and 20k on the stock shocks. The ride is a little firm, but its ok with me. I am going to replace the rear shocks soon with KYB AGX's because passangers complain it is bumpy back there.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
Ive had my Eibachs on for 1 year now and 20k on the stock shocks. The ride is a little firm, but its ok with me. I am going to replace the rear shocks soon with KYB AGX's because passangers complain it is bumpy back there.
What about the fronts?

We need someone to be a guniea pig for the Koni inserts in Front and the KYB AGXs in the Rear.
Old Dec 3, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by IceY2K1


What about the fronts?

We need someone to be a guniea pig for the Koni inserts in Front and the KYB AGXs in the Rear.
The fronts are fine. I might replace them though so I get the best handling possible for road racing. I want the adjustability that the AGXs offer. Maybe Tokico will come out with Illuminas for 5th gens sometime soon.

My car rides about the same as my mom's 330i with the sport package.
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