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Old Dec 22, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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2k2 Auto vs. Volvo Wagon???????

So I'm rolling down the hwy and there is some Volvo XC wagon all over the road. So a move along past him and we go around an on ramp and onto another hwy and he punches it from around 60 behind me and starts to catch up. I pinned 'er and what the heck?? he's still rolling on up??? It was not a V70 (ie no turbo T5) and it went real well. It wasn't really a great race as there was a little traffic but I can tell you, I wasn't killing him at all. Since he was rolling up on me at a higher rate of speed I had to catch up to his speed first. I looked on the website and they are supposed to have 208 hp? WTF?
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Re: 2k2 Auto vs. Volvo Wagon???????

Originally posted by Snobike Mike
So I'm rolling down the hwy and there is some Volvo XC wagon all over the road. So a move along past him and we go around an on ramp and onto another hwy and he punches it from around 60 behind me and starts to catch up. I pinned 'er and what the heck?? he's still rolling on up??? It was not a V70 (ie no turbo T5) and it went real well. It wasn't really a great race as there was a little traffic but I can tell you, I wasn't killing him at all. Since he was rolling up on me at a higher rate of speed I had to catch up to his speed first. I looked on the website and they are supposed to have 208 hp? WTF?
IIRC, that is motor trends suv of the year. i dont have the mag with me but i believe their is a turbocharged version of the wagon and its almost as quick as our 2k2 autos.
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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But he paid thousands more than the Maxima just to be as quick as your Maxima
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by max988
But he paid thousands more than the Maxima just to be as quick as your Maxima
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Exactly! So he's the big loser!
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by PeterUbers
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Exactly! So he's the big loser!

Get in a car crash and see who the loser is.



Perhaps the volvo wagon you raced was the V70 R model? It's AWD, 5spd auto and has I beleive 248 HP. I raced one a while back on a roll and it held it's own.
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 04:25 PM
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One gets a LOT more car in a Volvo...Nissan can't compare...we are in the "best bang for your buck" category, but the Volvo is a GREAT car...bar none.

Year in and year out, they are one of the safest cars on the road, and never have the quality issues like we've had lately w/paintchips, rattles, BOSE problems...

love my 6 speed tho...
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 04:30 PM
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You have to be careful with volvos from a highway roll. A 5-spd auto and instant torque (torque peak at 1800 rpm)from the turbo makes them competitive. My mother's volvo hauls between 50mph to 90 mph until it kicks into 4th gear. Once her car hits 4th, the eco-gearing kills it. I believe had you pressed the issue, the Volvo would have fallen back.
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 05:18 PM
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The safest 4WD vehicle on the road probably is the 5,000+ LBs Suburban . A colleague of mine bought a new Volvo S80 T6 last year because its good crash test. He traded the S80 earlier this year for a Chevy Tahoe because the S80 had too many electrical problems.
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Originally posted by max988
The safest 4WD vehicle on the road probably is the 5,000+ LBs Suburban . A colleague of mine bought a new Volvo S80 T6 last year because its good crash test. He traded the S80 earlier this year for a Chevy Tahoe because the S80 had too many electrical problems.
thats why my mom has a suburban except that shes trading it in because it absolutely has fallen apart. well its a domestic, what can you say.
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Originally posted by TonyBmax
Most people don't understand street racing. If someone goes WOT before the other that makes a massive difference. Even if the guy you are racing starts from behind if he goes WOT first you have your work cut out for you to at least match speed, catch up, and then pass.
if 2 cars are close to even then whoever goes 1st especially if its auto Vs. auto then usually wins. i raced a 2002 crown vic and he took off before me and it took me till about 65 to catch him then pass him.
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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Re: 2k2 Auto vs. Volvo Wagon???????

My other car is a 2002 Volvo V70XC (that's the AWD wagon, not the SUV). The car has a 2.4 liter 5 cylinder with a light-pressure turbo. It hauls *** for a car with a dry curb weight of 3700 lbs.

Don't ask it to turn, though. Lots of ground clearance, soft suspension and Pirelli Scorpion all season tires means it rolls and bounces a lot. I have to admit, though - it's a lot quicker than I ever expected it to be. Not bad for the wife's car





Originally posted by Snobike Mike
So I'm rolling down the hwy and there is some Volvo XC wagon all over the road. So a move along past him and we go around an on ramp and onto another hwy and he punches it from around 60 behind me and starts to catch up. I pinned 'er and what the heck?? he's still rolling on up??? It was not a V70 (ie no turbo T5) and it went real well. It wasn't really a great race as there was a little traffic but I can tell you, I wasn't killing him at all. Since he was rolling up on me at a higher rate of speed I had to catch up to his speed first. I looked on the website and they are supposed to have 208 hp? WTF?
Old Dec 22, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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The reaction time is going to be even more amplified in a highway run too. You're going to need a pretty decent advantage on the other guy if he gets the jump on you going 60, especially if you have an auto.
Old Dec 23, 2002 | 07:34 AM
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output

i think that the high-pressure turbo puts out 248, and i think the V70r awd puts out less than that (which seems kinda ill since the "r" was the extreme a few yrs. ago). yeah...don't sleep on those turbo wagons...and you can get'em w/ the manual tranny too. If i could afford it, best believe i'd rock a v70 turbo wagon. tint it up, lower it a lil bit and kill'em on the road.......
Old Dec 23, 2002 | 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by emax95



Get in a car crash and see who the loser is.



Perhaps the volvo wagon you raced was the V70 R model? It's AWD, 5spd auto and has I beleive 248 HP. I raced one a while back on a roll and it held it's own.







Yeah but your car is slooooooooow
Old Dec 23, 2002 | 10:56 AM
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Re: Re: 2k2 Auto vs. Volvo Wagon???????

Did I write this??? This is exacltly my situation. The wife has a XC70 Cross Country and it's a pleasure every time I drive it. It has all the best features of my previous cars... more ground clearance than the F-150, as much pick-up as the Mitsu GSX turbo, more room and comfort than the honda SUV. It really is an awesome car.

Who gets the jump is a big deal, but also don't forget it's not very difficult to tune the turbo in that volvo to put out more than the stock 200 hp.

Originally posted by MoCoMax
My other car is a 2002 Volvo V70XC (that's the AWD wagon, not the SUV). The car has a 2.4 liter 5 cylinder with a light-pressure turbo. It hauls *** for a car with a dry curb weight of 3700 lbs.

Don't ask it to turn, though. Lots of ground clearance, soft suspension and Pirelli Scorpion all season tires means it rolls and bounces a lot. I have to admit, though - it's a lot quicker than I ever expected it to be. Not bad for the wife's car
Old Dec 23, 2002 | 11:45 AM
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Re: output

Originally posted by Eenis
i think that the high-pressure turbo puts out 248, and i think the V70r awd puts out less than that (which seems kinda ill since the "r" was the extreme a few yrs. ago)
The 2003/4 V70R will have 300hp and a 6-speed.



Old Dec 23, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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From a rolling start the XC is a pretty exceptional performer. If you would have got him from a standing start, you would've wasted him.

Peace.
Old Dec 23, 2002 | 05:05 PM
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I wish I would have waited and found a good condition 850 T5, T5-R, or even just a Turbo model.....but I'm only 16, so I think my parents tricked me into getting a Red 1995 Volvo 850 GLT. It's really safe, it is basically made entirely of tubular steel, it's red and I think it looks awesome. BUT mine only has the 168HP inline 5. One thing I have noticed is with the car hits a dead zone at 80mph it kinda just stops. The sport mode on the transmission does add noticable pep and rapid acceleration at highway speeds( much like my father's 2000 Maxima GLE)
Now the volvo may not be the fastest thing on the road it's definately one the best made cars on the road. The seats are very very very supportive. the suspension is sporty and firm but still soft enough to dampen the potholes.
The Turbo models are very easy to make fast though, you can get them over 300hp with as little as $1000. Their stock 0-60 is about 6.6sec so yeah don't under estimate them!
Old Dec 28, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
One gets a LOT more car in a Volvo...Nissan can't compare...we are in the "best bang for your buck" category, but the Volvo is a GREAT car...bar none.

Year in and year out, they are one of the safest cars on the road, and never have the quality issues like we've had lately w/paintchips, rattles, BOSE problems...

love my 6 speed tho...
who said volvo is a good car
my friend's 3 yr old volvo is fallin apart already....
the funniest thing is his rear power windows, u can open and cant close.... u need to press and hold the button for 10-15min to close the windows.....
i notice that when it began to rain one day.............
we were on a highway...
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by tary44


who said volvo is a good car
my friend's 3 yr old volvo is fallin apart already....
the funniest thing is his rear power windows, u can open and cant close.... u need to press and hold the button for 10-15min to close the windows.....
i notice that when it began to rain one day.............
we were on a highway...
....................
Well tell him to take it in and have it fixed while it's under warrenty! I have a 8 year old (1995) 850 and it's front passenger window does the same thing. I'm getting it fixed this week for free! If thats the only problem hes having he should consider himself lucky atl east he doesn't own something that's really falling apart.
Old Dec 30, 2002 | 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by F23A4
From a rolling start the XC is a pretty exceptional performer. If you would have got him from a standing start, you would've wasted him.

Peace.
A XC is slow at any speed, lol. We have one here and I drive it on occasion, it handles like a boat and it's not fast at all. The V70 R on the other hand..
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 03:26 AM
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Re: 2k2 Auto vs. Volvo Wagon???????

Originally posted by Snobike Mike
I looked on the website and they are supposed to have 208 hp? WTF?
Well your 2K2 is SUPPOSED to have 255 hp too.
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by F23A4
From a rolling start the XC is a pretty exceptional performer. If you would have got him from a standing start, you would've wasted him.

Peace.
, learn the beauty of All Wheel Drive, any time, any where, baby ... Owned a 90 Talon AWD w/ 280 hp ...
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by Weasel
The 2003/4 V70R will have 300hp and a 6-speed.


so will the S60R, and it's not a wagon.

"Under the hood lurks the most powerful engine in the Volvo range. The five-cylinder 2.5-liter in-line turbocharged engine puts out 300 horsepower at 5,200 rpm and 295 ft.-lbs. of torque at 1,950 rpm. Top speed for the S60 is electronically limited to 155 mph and it accelerates from 0 to 60 mph 5.7 seconds with a manual gearbox.
"The new six-speed manual gearbox was developed to handle the high torque delivered by the engine. Gearshift travel is short, making for fast, positive changes."

read the whole artice here: http://www.swedespeed.com/main_news/11_08_02.html


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so will the S60R, and it's not a wagon.
That's the only problem with it.

I have a thing for wagons that beat Mustangs.
Old Dec 31, 2002 | 03:29 PM
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Originally posted by VQMAN
One gets a LOT more car in a Volvo...Nissan can't compare...we are in the "best bang for your buck" category, but the Volvo is a GREAT car...bar none.

Year in and year out, they are one of the safest cars on the road, and never have the quality issues like we've had lately w/paintchips, rattles, BOSE problems...

love my 6 speed tho...

Well, VQ, you are entitled to your opinion. That's what makes the world go'round. There are even some guys think Chevys are better than a Rolls Royce.

Volvo certainly does make nice cars, alright, especially since Ford bought the company and pumped in more money (we will probably see more shared platforms, new designs, that's a good thing).

But to make the statement that they are "Great bar none," and that Nissan can't compare? Totally subjective, you can believe what you want.

Quality issues? Few would deny that Nissan and most other major Japanese brands tend to be more trouble free than European and American cars during their life times, and they last a looooooong time without major component replacement or overhauls, even when abused.

Rattles? My son's '96 GXE with more than 160K has no rattles. It's a beautiful car that was mine, Ruby Pearl/tan interior. Still purrs like a kitten, we take it up to 120 or so every now and then to blow out the carbon. Aside from a Kenwood CD stereo, it's 100% stock, the only repair was a o2 sensor.

So, if you really think the Volvo is better, that's what you shoulda got!! I'll keep my '02 SE, thanks.
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Well, VQ, you are entitled to your opinion. That's what makes the world go'round. There are even some guys think Chevys are better than a Rolls Royce.

Volvo certainly does make nice cars, alright, especially since Ford bought the company and pumped in more money (we will probably see more shared platforms, new designs, that's a good thing).

But to make the statement that they are "Great bar none," and that Nissan can't compare? Totally subjective, you can believe what you want.

Quality issues? Few would deny that Nissan and most other major Japanese brands tend to be more trouble free than European and American cars during their life times, and they last a looooooong time without major component replacement or overhauls, even when abused.

Rattles? My son's '96 GXE with more than 160K has no rattles. It's a beautiful car that was mine, Ruby Pearl/tan interior. Still purrs like a kitten, we take it up to 120 or so every now and then to blow out the carbon. Aside from a Kenwood CD stereo, it's 100% stock, the only repair was a o2 sensor.

So, if you really think the Volvo is better, that's what you shoulda got!! I'll keep my '02 SE, thanks.
Dude, Volvos are AWESOME! Nissan can't hold a candle to it in most instances other than pricing, pure performance, and maybe fanboys.
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Dude, Volvos are AWESOME! Nissan can't hold a candle to it in most instances other than pricing, pure performance, and maybe fanboys.

Again, if you think the Volvo is better, get rid of your Max and get a Volvo! Good luck!

Not sure what a fanboy is, anybody else know?
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Well, to set the record straight. . . The V70r for 2000 and ONLY 2000 had the 2.3l that put out just over 260hp. All other years it was making around 245.

My boss has the V70r wagon from 2000 and I get to drive it around a bit. All I can say is WOW! I've never been one for Volvo's, but this thing with the engine it has is just amazing for what it is. Total sleeper to most, and I'm not thrilled about tooling around in a wagon, but what a trip! And you can NOT beat the AWD with a stick!

I haven't driven the 2k2 Max with 255 hp (So they say), but compared to my 2k, there is NO comparision.
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Originally posted by C430



Again, if you think the Volvo is better, get rid of your Max and get a Volvo! Good luck!

Not sure what a fanboy is, anybody else know?
Oh if you do get a Volvo (just you know if you go paranoid and feel you need an armored car) at least get a T5 or a T5 R model. They have high pressure turbos and a minimum of 222 HP.
But looking back I kinda wish I would have found a nice 3rd generation maxima(1994 VE 5spd).
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