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Old Jan 20, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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Maxpseed + KYB AGX Installed

I must say this is a great combo. For people who aren't looking for a stiff ride, this is the combo for you. With the Maxspeed and AGXs, you get slightly slowered stance and a firm controlled ride. When going over bumps it feels like a nice sport tuned suspension. My parents have a E420 Sport and the suspension feels similiar. Maybe the E-Class feels a little better. But then again, I'm still playing with the settings on my AGXs. Running them as 2/2 right now. Feels fine. Not harsh at all. I mounted the rear shocks with the dials facing inward. It's not that easy to access either way.
I rode over uneven surfaces, ripples, small potholes. I can't say anything bad about this setup. It never got harsh. I didn't cut my bump stops either. No problems there.

My stock shocks were SOOOO dead. In the middle of the travel there was no resistance! It had free play for about 3 inches. My rear shocks felt like pogo sticks. No kidding! They just bounced up and down and compressed rapidly.

No, I don't think the car handles like its on rails. I've definitely felt better. I feel like this setup improved the ride quality a lot though.

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Glad they arrived safely and you like them so much...
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 06:02 PM
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I am really considering this setup...what else did you buy besides the actual shocks and struts? did you do it your self?
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Re: Maxpseed + KYB AGX Installed

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I must say this is a great combo. For people who aren't looking for a stiff ride, this is the combo for you. With the Maxspeed and AGXs, you get slightly slowered stance and a firm controlled ride. When going over bumps it feels like a nice sport tuned suspension. My parents have a E420 Sport and the suspension feels similiar. Maybe the E-Class feels a little better. But then again, I'm still playing with the settings on my AGXs. Running them as 2/2 right now. Feels fine. Not harsh at all. I mounted the rear shocks with the dials facing inward. It's not that easy to access either way.
I rode over uneven surfaces, ripples, small potholes. I can't say anything bad about this setup. It never got harsh. I didn't cut my bump stops either. No problems there.

My stock shocks were SOOOO dead. In the middle of the travel there was no resistance! It had free play for about 3 inches. My rear shocks felt like pogo sticks. No kidding! They just bounced up and down and compressed rapidly.

No, I don't think the car handles like its on rails. I've definitely felt better. I feel like this setup improved the ride quality a lot though.

ZuM
You know you can't post about getting a drop without posting the pics.
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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You know you can't post about getting a drop without posting the pics.
We should put that in the general guidelines of the orgy.
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 07:06 PM
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Wizza: Yes, they got here safely and they have a new home! =) I'm glad it all worked out.

Skeets: It's all about the tools. I had a friend with a full tool set help me out. He also had a spring compressor in his house. But we took my car apart in my house and brought the suspension components to his house. Long story. I didn't buy anything more than the shocks and springs. But if you don't have tools, you will need a spring compressor and various sockets and rachets.

deezo: We've all seen what it looks like. Maybe I'll post some pics I took of my max levitating! =) We put the max on 4 jackstands and took all 4 shocks/springs out. Then we took it to my friend's place cuz he has a spring compressor mounted on his garage wall. We would have done it all there. But he has an outdoor garage and it's like 20 degrees there. My garage is inside the house and I have a heater there. =) I'll have to see how the pics came out. I mainly took the pics because it looked like my max just had all it's rims stolen and was sitting on blocks. =)

UPDATE: Just went to the city to pick up my girl friend. Yes, New York CITY! Pothole, bad pavement capital of the world. The suspension did great! Soaked it all up. I just drove normally and ran over everything I normally would have. No bottoming out, no bangs, no bouncing. Not really harsh at all. Just firm. I need an alignment though! My car pulls to the left pretty bad at highway speeds now. If you live in NYC, Maxspeed may be the way to go!
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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how much you pay for the setup, im lookin to get the same one cuz the streets in boston suck like ny streets....
Old Jan 20, 2003 | 07:57 PM
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how much you pay for the setup, im lookin to get the same one cuz the streets in boston suck like ny streets....

Agreed I think I need to get this for my max. My dad is wary of dropping the car, he's an idiot. But right now we only need to replace front shocks to KYBs(we both agreed on this). I want to put in springs and need to convicne him quick....


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AGXs costed 345 shipped from ebay. The Maxspeeds were bought through a group deal. I think it was 85 dollars not including shipping. If you think the AGXs are overkill. I am very confident that the KYB GR-2s can handle the Maxpseed springs. The springs are very tame. The car will still feel like a family car. Just one with a good sport tuned suspension.

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Originally posted by The Gange
My dad is wary of dropping the car, he's an idiot.
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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Just got my Maxspeed/KYB AGX set up also and I'd have to agree. You get a nice sporty ride, excellent handling( It corners like a ****). I was a little worried at first because they were very stiff(2,2) setting, when I first drove it. But once they settled, I love the ride. If you want a luxury car ride, this set up is not for you. If you want a suspension thats screaming to be driven at high speeds, you'll like it.
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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First off, I'm a weenie. I'm not a person that would want a stiff ride. I drive around NY a lot. But I have my AGXs set at 2/2 and I didn't find them stiff at all! I guess it's personal opinion. I'd have to disagree with the comment about it not being a luxury ride. I don't think there is a softer spring out there. This setup is good if you DO want a luxury ride but want to lower also. It's a very good compromise. This suspension is not a full race suspension. The spring rates are too soft. You can tell by jerking the wheel back and forth going at highway speeds. It's better than stock. But I'm sure Eibach or B&Gs would feel better at highway speeds. But with a stiffer spring you will need to raise the damping on the shocks and that would result in a harsher ride. It's all a balance. I don't want anyone getting the Maxspeed/AGX combo thinking this is the ultimate handling setup. It's not. It feels nice though.

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Just got my Maxspeed/KYB AGX set up also and I'd have to agree. You get a nice sporty ride, excellent handling( It corners like a ****). I was a little worried at first because they were very stiff(2,2) setting, when I first drove it. But once they settled, I love the ride. If you want a luxury car ride, this set up is not for you. If you want a suspension thats screaming to be driven at high speeds, you'll like it.
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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Re: Maxpseed + KYB AGX Installed

Originally posted by ZuMBLe
I must say this is a great combo. For people who aren't looking for a stiff ride, this is the combo for you. With the Maxspeed and AGXs, you get slightly slowered stance and a firm controlled ride. When going over bumps it feels like a nice sport tuned suspension. My parents have a E420 Sport and the suspension feels similiar. Maybe the E-Class feels a little better. But then again, I'm still playing with the settings on my AGXs. Running them as 2/2 right now. Feels fine. Not harsh at all. I mounted the rear shocks with the dials facing inward. It's not that easy to access either way.
I rode over uneven surfaces, ripples, small potholes. I can't say anything bad about this setup. It never got harsh. I didn't cut my bump stops either. No problems there.

My stock shocks were SOOOO dead. In the middle of the travel there was no resistance! It had free play for about 3 inches. My rear shocks felt like pogo sticks. No kidding! They just bounced up and down and compressed rapidly.

No, I don't think the car handles like its on rails. I've definitely felt better. I feel like this setup improved the ride quality a lot though.

ZuM
I had this combo as well and was just installed ($120 including CV Boots replacement) recently (took me a long to have them installed actually) and I must say that I am satisfied with the ride. The fronts are set to 4/4 and the rears are 3/3. Ride's a little bouncy on rugged roads, but still better than stock.
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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4/3? You one crazy ****! I'm going to try 4/2 later. See if I can knock some fillings loose.


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I had this combo as well and was just installed ($120 including CV Boots replacement) recently (took me a long to have them installed actually) and I must say that I am satisfied with the ride. The fronts are set to 4/4 and the rears are 3/3. Ride's a little bouncy on rugged roads, but still better than stock.
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Which suspention setup gives best and even drop on a 5speed?
Old Jan 21, 2003 | 10:51 AM
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[Scratching head]The suspension guru is wondering how the H&R ride compairs to the MAxspeed ride? [/Scratching head]

If any locals would like to meet up for a test drive, I'm in Northern New Jersey, close to NYC. PM me, I'd be interested in taking a spin on Maxspeed springs.

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First off, I'm a weenie. I'm not a person that would want a stiff ride. I drive around NY a lot. But I have my AGXs set at 2/2 and I didn't find them stiff at all! I guess it's personal opinion. I'd have to disagree with the comment about it not being a luxury ride. I don't think there is a softer spring out there. This setup is good if you DO want a luxury ride but want to lower also. It's a very good compromise. This suspension is not a full race suspension. The spring rates are too soft. You can tell by jerking the wheel back and forth going at highway speeds. It's better than stock. But I'm sure Eibach or B&Gs would feel better at highway speeds. But with a stiffer spring you will need to raise the damping on the shocks and that would result in a harsher ride. It's all a balance. I don't want anyone getting the Maxspeed/AGX combo thinking this is the ultimate handling setup. It's not. It feels nice though.

ZuM

definitely not a luxury ride. I guess it'a a matter of taste
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4/3? You one crazy ****! I'm going to try 4/2 later. See if I can knock some fillings loose.


Yeah well, I'm trying on all of the settings to see which one I could settle on permanently. A week ago I had it on 2/3. I'm only switching the fronts, though, since it's the most accessible. Will post pics on my hompage later on.
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I'm sorry I doubted you dude! They settled a bit. Remember, I wrote that review hours after the install. 24 hours later. These things are a little harsh! The car definitely settled a bit. I definitely wouldn't want anything stiffer than these maxspeeds. Car handles well but it's a little bit rough now. I change my vote. Not luxury ride!

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definitely not a luxury ride. I guess it'a a matter of taste
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Originally posted by njmaxseltd
[Scratching head]The suspension guru is wondering how the H&R ride compairs to the MAxspeed ride? [/Scratching head]

If any locals would like to meet up for a test drive, I'm in Northern New Jersey, close to NYC. PM me, I'd be interested in taking a spin on Maxspeed springs.

Thanks

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If you can make it to the Menlo Mall meet on 2/1, you can take a ride in mine. The Maxspeeds are nice but then again I am still playing with the settings...right now I think they are at 2 in the front and 4 in the back.
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I'm sorry I doubted you dude! They settled a bit. Remember, I wrote that review hours after the install. 24 hours later. These things are a little harsh! The car definitely settled a bit. I definitely wouldn't want anything stiffer than these maxspeeds. Car handles well but it's a little bit rough now. I change my vote. Not luxury ride!

I have to go against you again dude , I think they soften as they settle. They were real stiff after they were first installed.
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I have no idea.. I hope they soften as they settle. But they definitely feel harsher today and the car looks about 3/4 inch lower. Maybe the struts soften over time. But I think when the springs settle there is less travel in them. They stay compressed more so they are stiffer. That would be my guess. Either way. I can't say these feel luxurious anymore.

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I have to go against you again dude , I think they soften as they settle. They were real stiff after they were first installed.
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I wonder if the cold weather has any effect on it
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Originally posted by ZuMBLe
I have no idea.. I hope they soften as they settle. But they definitely feel harsher today and the car looks about 3/4 inch lower. Maybe the struts soften over time. But I think when the springs settle there is less travel in them. They stay compressed more so they are stiffer. That would be my guess. Either way. I can't say these feel luxurious anymore.

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Mine was a soft the first couple of weeks after installation, that's why I switched to 4/3. It's now a little tight (too tight I believe) so I'm going to switch back to softer settings.
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I will say this again.. Maxspeeds have a harsher ride than Sprint Sprints with a higher ride
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Originally posted by SprintMax
I will say this again.. Maxspeeds have a harsher ride than Sprint Sprints with a higher ride
so sprint, you are so critical of springs, whats your suggestion?
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 06:54 AM
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When I first installed the springs. I did the "bounce test". With the hood open I pressed down on the metal right above the headlights. The car compressed, came back up and stopped moving. Perfect! I tried it again late last night, couldn't even get the car to move! =( I need the higher ride height. Maybe I should start looking in to H&Rs.

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I will say this again.. Maxspeeds have a harsher ride than Sprint Sprints with a higher ride
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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I'm riding with 2/2 settings.

i initially had 3 / 6 and i was getting car sick. HEH...
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3/6 can NOT feel good while turning over bumpy pavement. The tail must have just hopped all over the place! A friend of mine told me to run 1/1. I may try it.

Originally posted by maxNYC
I'm riding with 2/2 settings.

i initially had 3 / 6 and i was getting car sick. HEH...
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 12:24 PM
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the front springs on Maxspeed are not progressive.. the front springs on sprint are.. thats why sprint rides better than maxspeeds..

trust me i know..

i work on a car constantly that has maxspeeds.. and i have sprints... i know them personally
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DOH! I wish I came upon this info earlier. I would have went for H&Rs. Is that why the maxspeeds are so cheap? I'll have to live with it for a while. I really don't feel like taking the suspension apart again. Not progressive? DAMN! I guess you really do get what you pay for.

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the front springs on Maxspeed are not progressive.. the front springs on sprint are.. thats why sprint rides better than maxspeeds..

trust me i know..

i work on a car constantly that has maxspeeds.. and i have sprints... i know them personally
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DOH! I wish I came upon this info earlier. I would have went for H&Rs. Is that why the maxspeeds are so cheap? I'll have to live with it for a while. I really don't feel like taking the suspension apart again. Not progressive? DAMN! I guess you really do get what you pay for.

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The ride is not that bad, you sound like it's the worst thing in the world. How do you go from Luxury ride to that?
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Originally posted by SprintMax
the front springs on Maxspeed are not progressive.. the front springs on sprint are.. thats why sprint rides better than maxspeeds..

trust me i know..

i work on a car constantly that has maxspeeds.. and i have sprints... i know them personally
so you would recommend sprints? or something else?
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The ride is not that bad, you sound like it's the worst thing in the world. How do you go from Luxury ride to that?
try driving a Maxspeed or Sprint Suspension car in NYC.. anytime i got to NYC.. i am litterally biting my teeth while driving .. the roads are horrible and un even.. i know what he is talking about..

fortunately .. CT has nice smooth roads

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so you would recommend sprints? or something else?
H&R's for comfort and excellent handling
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But will Sprints kill the AGX's quicker than a car with Maxspeed springs on it. Doesn't dropping the car so much void the AGX warranty?
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But will Sprints kill the AGX's quicker than a car with Maxspeed springs on it. Doesn't dropping the car so much void the AGX warranty?
catch 22..

sprint has a lower drop.. but it has a better rebound...
Old Jan 22, 2003 | 08:34 PM
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B&G's are nice....they dont ride too bad at all, just I think a little stiffer then stock. I liked them on my 95 max....and think I will go with them on my 99 too.
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I think the springs have pretty much settled and I feel everything. When the springs weren't settled, it felt great! The roads in NYC suck. The highways around NYC suck. CT has nice smooth roads. But my boss lives in CT. So automaticly, CT sucks. =P


Originally posted by SprintMax


try driving a Maxspeed or Sprint Suspension car in NYC.. anytime i got to NYC.. i am litterally biting my teeth while driving .. the roads are horrible and un even.. i know what he is talking about..

fortunately .. CT has nice smooth roads



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