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Old Apr 13, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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New HID kit...hi/lo included

Well, after the other attempt failed, I found another hi/lo hid kit. Here's their official website:
http://www.supremepowerparts.com/cat...ht-stage3.html
Here's my website w/the pics they sent me (I think this's the 10,000k bulb):
http://thurznite.maximaclubca.com/pics/SPP%20HID/

estimated price ~550 shipped

Kit includes
(2) Osram Xenarc 5400k D2S Bulbs
(2) 50W Ballasts
other necessary install stuff

lo = 35watts = 3000lumens
hi = 50watts = 5000lumens

The color temp goes down w/increased wattage...so the 5400k comes out near 4200k, which's the legal color limit and the same as stock nissan, et al.

For the 5th gens with dedicated lo beam, you can run this kit @ 50watts all the time, which's super bright at 5000 lumens

For more info, this's my contact person (tell him Jae with the Maxima sent you):
Eric Nareshni
www.supremepowerparts.com
www.hidsource.com
(714)632-1951 Office
(714)632-9249 Fax

I'm getting it installed on Tuesday and will take pics and vids...and on Friday evening, we're having a meet so others can see it.

Jae
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 09:02 AM
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nice output, decent price.
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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I cant wait!
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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5000 lumens!.. thats like temporarily blinding, thanks for that link, this is exactly what I've been looking for, now I just need to get some money. *runs around the house looking for quarters in the couch*
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 01:12 PM
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Of course it looks good in the pics... D2S bulbs are for projector housings like the ones on that Audi. Reflector-type housings should always use D2R bulbs since they're shielded from the factory. The glare is going to be even worse than normal 9004 HIDs.
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Weasel
Of course it looks good in the pics... D2S bulbs are for projector housings like the ones on that Audi. Reflector-type housings should always use D2R bulbs since they're shielded from the factory. The glare is going to be even worse than normal 9004 HIDs.
Correct with the D2R. I was told that you can choose whatever bulb you want, so in our case, we would get D2r, not D2S.

Blinding? Only if you leave it at 50w...you could run 35w normally and hit 50w when you wanna play night football or something.

We're having a meet on Friday...other members will let u know how bright they are.

Jae
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite


Correct with the D2R. I was told that you can choose whatever bulb you want, so in our case, we would get D2r, not D2S.

Blinding? Only if you leave it at 50w...you could run 35w normally and hit 50w when you wanna play night football or something.

We're having a meet on Friday...other members will let u know how bright they are.

Jae
Take Side by side comparisons please, Hi watt/Low watt/HID --
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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Assuming the projectors get made this century I would definitely be interested depending on the bulb custommaxima decides to use... thanks for scouting this out.
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 08:01 PM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Weasel
[B]Assuming the projectors get made this century

Old Apr 13, 2003 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Weasel
thanks for scouting this out.

I haven't been keeping up with the projectors for the same reason...I thought they'd be out already, but it's good to know they're doing their research.

Also, about the blinding-ness...I'm hoping the beam pattern won't spray the light too far up...that way, it won't be blinding. I know others with HID kits (any HID kit) have had to angle their housing downwards...this might apply to the new kit.

Jae
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 09:21 PM
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^ yeah.. you will definatly need to aim this down a bit, its probably the same thing as the other kits except instead of just the blinding setting (low beam) it has the patented *your better off just closing your eyes while driving towards this car* (hi-beam)

yeah im joking, but at the same time.. our housing wasnt made to handle that much light, there will be some glare.
Old Apr 13, 2003 | 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by ch13f
patented *your better off just closing your eyes while driving towards this car* (hi-beam)


I guess those ricey "eyelids" may come in handy, eh? I'll just stick with electrical tape for my eyelids.
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Old Apr 14, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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This is essentially the same kit that I was pushing awhile back before the whole hi/lo ballast vs. solenoid debate started. Same concept 35/50 watt hi/lo ballast controlled, three year warranty.

Thurz, what finally convinced you? I remember you weren't feelin this kit before.
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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Originally posted by NISMO808

Thurz, what finally convinced you? I remember you weren't feelin this kit before.
the fact that i'm prototyping/testfitting and getting it for next to nothing. =)
want my honest opinion? Why is it that so few companies have figured out how to do 50w when nobody else has? Shouldn't it be easy to modify existing technology to do 50? There must be some reason why phillips and everybody else decided to use 35 instead. It could just be a legal reason, that 50's too bright. I dunno. Somebody mentioned heat, but I reminded them that 35hid run cooler than halogen...so 50hid shouldn't be much more than halogen. And then there's people running overwatted halogen and not having problems.
I too have my doubts...but my mind's a lil more at ease knowing I didn't pay full price for these ($650). I'm probably also gonna ask for sponsorship...this company has potential.

Nismo808, I know we had this conversation before but I can't find the thread. Can you locate it for me? I wanna review the pros/cons in preparation for my presentation. Thanx!

Jae
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 08:04 AM
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how about the life of the bulb? does it decerease?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by DanNY
how about the life of the bulb? does it decerease?
good question. Lemme ask.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 11:18 AM
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Is that pricing for 9004 Jae?
Old Apr 15, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by Lordrandall
Is that pricing for 9004 Jae?
it's for all bulbs. If everything goes well, feel free to tell your friends about it...I'm gonna include my the Tiburon people too.
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Old Apr 15, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Here's a link that might "shed a bit of light" on the subject...

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=186732

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Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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just to bring things up, and i'm not trying to bash on this new HID kit or anything, but is this kit actually safe to use?

do these bulbs actually support 50 watts? I know that a regular HID D2S/D2R bulbs will actually say that it takes 35w on the base of the bulb. Are these new bulbs that OSRAM just came out with or someting??? If u're putting too much wattage in a bulb made to support 35w, would that be dangerous at all?? I'm just suggesting whether it may cause overwattage problems??

I know that there's a company out there that actually decreases the wattage of the ballast to give it a blue effect look. Go to http://www.hidkits.com/ for more info on it. So I'm thinking it is possible to modify the wattage that the ballast draws in, but I'm just questioning whether this is safe to do???

Also, wouldn't the ballast draw alot of electricity compared to 35w ballast which takes in about 20,000 volts when ignited already??? Can a support the more electricity draw when the bulb is attempting to ignite?
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 01:11 PM
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I got an answer from SPP about the life. Yes, they do decrease lifespan by 30%. However, how many people have you heard from that have bulbs die on them? Hardly ever. Assuming a major bulb manufacturer's claim of 10-12 years, 30% gone would mean 6+ years.
Anyways, SPP gives 3years warranty, which's on par for a name brand kit.

If you guys really want, I will get the SunAuto dual bulb HID kit that I talked about 6 months ago...costs $350...HID for low, halogen for hi. Any interest?

Jae
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 01:35 PM
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I am interested in both actually. What are the color outputs for the HID/Halogen setup versus the new one you are talking about??
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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For the hid lo, we should have our choice of color. I dunno anything about the halogen...nor would he elaborate.
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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 01:21 AM
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so is this really a group deal or juss sparking interest? let me know thanks
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 01:45 AM
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Jae I couldn't find our original thread either, however you can check out this link which has some of the key points that were made before.

click here

Hopefully I'll be there at the KK meet on friday to check it out in person.
Old Apr 17, 2003 | 06:46 AM
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Originally posted by Turbo95Max
so is this really a group deal or juss sparking interest? let me know thanks
both. Price is already set for $550 shipped. Go ahead and call Eric at your leisure and place an order. I just wasn't sure if anybody would purchase without seeing it first. (doing my job and looking out for my Nissan Family). We didn't negotiate a timeframe, so it pretty much goes on forever...as long as you mention you're from "Jae with the Maximas' club".

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Old Apr 17, 2003 | 07:02 AM
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Wow! I really want these! The pics at this link are really nice (http://thurznite.maximaclubca.com/pics/SPP%20HID/). Good quality light too. How difficult is the install?
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Originally posted by lcf
How difficult is the install?
I'll find out tomorrow! My appointment is at 10am. I will have them install it for me (short on time and never done it before). I will take pics as they do it. Shouldn't be harder than a regular HID install, so about 1hr for a clean install.

Keep in mind that different cameras have different sensitivities...so those pics may look great, but could have been touched up. Best thing to do is wait for some testimonies. I will be showing off the lights tomorrow night at the krispy kreme meet. Keep in mind that since they are freshly installed, I will not have the time to adjust the aim.

Jae
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 08:11 AM
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Originally posted by ThurzNite
Keep in mind that since they are freshly installed, I will not have the time to adjust the aim.

Jae
Jae, if you are going to pay these guys to install them for you, have them aim them as well. Since that is there business, it shouldn't take them long.
Old Apr 18, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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Can I get these to match my

02 stock HID's?

Hmmm I'm thinking 35w for my fog's and 50w for my highs But I'd like the 35w's to match the stock low's.

I won't have the cash for a while my 02 taxes were brutal
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Lordrandall, thanx for looking out. I declined their offer to install them since they were going to charge me 1hr. They said if I did it myself in the parkinglot, they could help me if anything went wrong.

Good thing I tried it in the parking lot! The system works fine if you only want 35 or 50, but you can't have both wired up at the same time. the reason is this:

The stock harness looks like this (for nearly all Nissan halogens):

2
1 3

For low beam, 2 is ground and 3 is hot
For high beam, 1 is hot and 3 is ground
wtf?! That's how it was in my bro's 2k Max. I verified in my 97 Max (both use diff bulb sizes...I will verify in the 93 Max tomorrow, but I suspect the same). Here's what we're thinking: for halogen, maybe current direction doesn't matter. But for HID, it does. That's our best hypothesis right now. We're now working with the supplier to see if there's an adaptor we could use, similar to the ones used on trailers that use 1 bulb to brake and turn. We also believe all the switching is done in the 2 fusable links.

Also, can a 5th gen member check their fuses by the front driver side fuse box? My bro's was missing 2 fuses for the headlamps. Maybe they're for drl?

Jae
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