The purpose of this poll is to track oil leak problems with RVM UDPs over time. Vote ONLY if you have oil leaking from your RVM UDP. Then post the date of purchase and the number of miles on your RVM pulley when the oil leak first occurred.

Notice that I have not included a "no" vote. The reason is because if you currently do NOT have oil leaking from your RVM UDP and it subsequently begins to leak oil, you will not be able to change your vote.

Thanks in advance to the moderators for being willing to sticky this post.

For further information, see the following thread:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=205068

 

wow... it's 100% with 1 vote from me hahahaha

 

Do you think it would make more sense to change the poll to --

• Yes
• No, more than 5000 Miles
• No, more than 10,000 Miles
• No, more than 15,000 miles
• Etc.

 

that makes sense.....

i have about 8000 miles on it when i started to have oil leak....

 

No. Once again, if you vote "no" at 8,000 miles and develop an oil leak at 8,001 miles, you can't go back and change your vote to "yes".

At this point, what I'm interested in determining is whether the problem with oil leakage is going to increase at an increasing rate. My suspicion is that it will. But as an RVM UDP owner who has not yet experienced an oil leak, I hope I'm wrong about that.

 

You should also inquire if they replaced the seal behind the crank pulley when they did the swap. Its adviseable, but I'm sure some people cut corners (about 6-8 bucks) and didn't do it.

 

I have an oil leak due to the faulty RVM pulley. My pulley's indentation is more then ][35's from his picture. I have called the RVM and all they can say is it is not our fault b/c installer installed it wrong even though my installer followed the instruction that came with it and even hand torqued it. They don't even try to listen to you and don't even care about trying to fix the problem.

 

I don't believe you and ][ 35 will be alone for much longer. And I don't believe RVM will be able to remain in denial indefinitely.

Two more things:

1) Do NOT dispose of your damaged pulley. You may need it for future reference.

2) If you own an RVM pulley, do NOT vote unless you vote "yes". Otherwise you're simply wasting your vote. This is not a "my pulley leaks oil" vs "my pulley doesn't leak oil" thread. It's about trends. The question is, will more RVM pulleys start to leak oil as time passes. If you vote "Not Applicable" now and your pulley subsequently starts to leak, you will not be able to change your vote. Capiche?

 

Apparently not. Somebody else voted "Not applicable". Guess they weren't able to figure out how to press the "View Results" link. Or maybe they just wanted to throw their vote away. Oh well. Every chandelier has its dim bulbs.

 

Whoever posted today that they have an oil leak problem with their RVM pulley, please identify yourself. When did you purchase your pulley and how many miles did you have on it when the leak developed?

 

yes i think it's is very important that we have a record of around when the oil leak started to happen.... i have contacted the RVM also.... and let them know of the problem.... they have said that so far not many people have the problem but if they do feel that more and more people are having problem.... they will start looking into fixing the problems......

 

That's encouraging. Hopefully those who have voted "yes" in this poll and refused to identify themselves will contact RVM and let them know about their oil leak problems . . . assuming that they didn't vote "yes" erroneously, that is.

Here's my position. If we receive one more CONFIRMED report of an oil leak from an RVM UDP, I'm going to remove mine and replace it with a UR UDP. If my RVM shows signs of abrasion from from the oil seal, I'll take pictures of the damage and return the pulley to them. At that point, we'll find out whether they're willing to stand behind their products.

 

If you voted, plz say how many miles you have on them or what year your car is , also give RVM a call and let them know of the problem so they will consider getting the fix or might even replace them.

so y2kse you going to replace them with UR UDP now? with 4 people?

 

Not if the last two people who voted "yes" refuse to identify themselves. AFAIC, a "yes" vote doesn't count if it's posted anonymously.

UPDATE!

We now have another pulley that shows signs of abrasion from the oil seal, this time a pulley that is "supposedly" brand new. Thanks to Kanaka for posting his pics in the RVM UPD thread.

At this point, I would urge anyone with an RVM UDP to remove the pulley and inspect it for abrasion from the oil seal.

 

now we are going somewhere. if people do decide to take out the UDP, they will see the wears on the UDP made by the oil seal, and hopefully RVM would do something about it.

 

Anyone wishing to swap out their RVM UDP for a UR UDP should contact Stillen. If you don't already have a sales rep at Stillen, ask for Adam Hume. He's aware of the problem with the RVM pulleys and he'll sell you the UR UDP at a decent price. Just tell him Bruce from the Org sent you.

Adam can be reached at 714-540-9154 x 138.

 

I would also like to ask for people who have voted for NO Oil Leak please say who you are. Reason why I ask is because when I talked with RVM Rep, it seemed like they voted few NO to make it look good.

RVM is pretty LAME company!!!!!

 

LAME AND VERY SHADY

 

RVM: we are standing behind our items, no refunds will be issued

I will be reporting this to the BBB and I hope all the other org memebers will stand behind me and make something of this and hopefully sink there company this time. They were already in the whole once and tried to make a comeback but looks like they ruined that totally. Please post here if you are willing to take time out to report this LAME company to the BBB.

Matt

 

just let me know what i need to do. atleast they can do is be polite about it. i just called them also and they were like ****ed off to talk to customer.

 

I understand why everyone is p!ssed off. I am too. But taking a baseball bat to RVM isn't going to accomplish anything. The idea is to patiently but persistently put the evidence in front of them. Sooner or later, the sheer magnitude of it will convince them that their UDP design is flawed.

As far as voting "no" is concerned, that simply was not an option. The choices were either "yes" or "not applicable". Those who equate "not applicable" votes with "no" votes are mistaken in doing so. If RVM reps did, in fact, vote "not applicable", they were foolish to have done so. Having said that, those who voted "yes" but refused to identify themselves were just as foolish. AFAIC, neither of them contributed anything of value to the situation.

I have arranged for the purchase of a UR UDP through Stillen. I'll have it installed on my Maxima in a couple of weeks. When the RVM pulley comes off, I'll inspect it for damage from the oil seal and let you know what I discover. I'll decide at that time what action, if any, to take with respect to RVM.

 

I understand what your sayin but RVM just better be glad I don't live near them

 

I catch your drift, blubyu2k2.

 

Dear RVM Racing:

I regret to inform you that I and others have asked that your UDP Group Deal in the Group Deals Forum at Maxima.org be locked and that your firm be added to the "Bad Sellers" list. It is clear from my conversations with Unorthodox Racing that you have been untruthful in stating that UR manufactured an unsleeved pulley for the Nissan Maxima. It is equally apparent that you have no intention of standing behind your UDP even though you freely admit that the oil seal will abrade the bare aluminum of the pulley and in documented instances, cause the engine to leak oil. (I am also aware of other problems with your UDP concerning the timing ring attached to the pulley.)

If you can prove that you are in possession of an unsleeved Unorthodox Racing pulley for a Nissan Maxima and you resolve the timing issues with your pulley, I will retract my request that your thread be locked and request that your name be removed from the Bad Seller list.

 

i've had no problems with mine and i got one of THE FIRST ones. i was a test car and i changed the seal and no oil leak. i also torqued everything perfect.

 

Got my UDP back from RVM. They simply buffed out the marks on the inner spindle area. More than likely, they were simply imperfections in manufacture.

At this point, I still plan to install the RVM UDP later this month. I hope the timing ring isn't one of the faulty ones. I am not so ****ed as some because I knew from the time of purchase that these RVM UDP's did not have a steel oil sleeve and that the potential for problems was there but not necessarily likely. So far, that seems to be the case. However, I think most purchasers either have not installed the UDP yet or have low miles on them. only time will tell.

 

Right, Mishmosh. The question you need to ask yourself is whether you're comfortable installing an aftermarket part that has a known design defect. And there is no question that an unsleeved pulley is a design defect. RVM has already admitted it. They have also stated that they are going to add a steel sleeve to their next production run of Maxima pulleys in order to overcome the defect. But they will not retrofit existing pulleys with steel sleeves in order to correct the defect. It is for that reason that I asked Kevin to add RVM Racing to the list of "bad sellers". No one should be permitted to sell products on this forum unless they're willing to stand behind the products they sell. Nor should anyone be permitted to sell products who misrepresents the manufacturing policies of an established and well-respected competitor.

I would also add that just because some people have not yet experienced an oil leak with their RVM pulleys doesn't mean that the defect doesn't exist. It exists with EVERY RVM PULLEY MANUFACTURED FOR NISSAN MAXIMAS TO DATE regardless of whether or not the pulley leaks oil. If anyone questions that premise, I would invite them to contact Unorthodox Racing. Ask UR if they ever manufactured an unsleeved pulley for a Nissan Maxima. And when they say no . . . and they WILL say no . . . ask them why not.

 

We need more responses to this poll. I will have mine taken off and looked at within 2 weeks to check for wear. It's been on for about 2-3k miles.

I wonder how much more than $80.00 the newer pulley will cost?

If they aren't willing to retrofit the pulleys we got why not just exchange them for the new one and charge us $10-20 to make the swap. I say this because I know they are a small company and the over all pulley is good it just needs a bushing and at $100 it's still a good deal. This may help them cover some of the loss. They can then retrofit the returned pulleys and sell them at slight discount off the new price if they look used and this will also help them cover some more of the cost and maybe break even.

If they're unwilling to do anything then we have a serious issue. And they will have a fight on their hands. They should know how us orgers can be

Not only that but we all make mistakes. It's how we handle them and make things right that makes the difference. If they handle it right the word will get around and they will get even more business. If they don't do the right thing I bought mine with a credit card...

And there's still UR and DM right?

 

I have already ask them that question. I told them flat out. I just want the sleeve on mine and i'm willing to pay little extra to cover the cost and don't want a refund, but they still told me pretty much #$%^ off because they are not going to correct the issue to already sold UDP but they had the nerve to tell me to buy a new one with sleeve on it once it comes out.

 

Somebody posted something in another thread about RVM making a mistake on the instruction sheet. Supposedly, it is a typo where it says to torque the bolt/nut down to 146 ft. lbs. I guess its actually supposed to say 46 ft. lbs.

Could this be causing the leaks?

 

It could be. But it's not the primary cause. The primary cause is the fact that the oil seal abrades the bare aluminum. The pure fact is, RVM pulleys should not have been released without sleeves. That was a manufacturing oversight on RVM's part, an oversight that they're not willing to take responsibility for.

Knowing that RVM is unwilling to stand behind their products, anyone who does business with them deserves what they get.

 

For those who are disgusted with RVMs unwillingness to correct the problems with their UDPs, here's your chance to get even.

Follow my example and give RVM a negative trader rating. Here's where you go to do that:

http://forums.maxima.org/member.php?...o&userid=12786

Look in the "Member statistics" section under "Trader Rating"

RVM Racing

 

definitive....

 

Done now hopefully people check there rating before purchasing from this company.

 

Update to my RVm problems:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=214857

 

about what price?

 

Call Adam at Stillen.

 

I installed my UDP about three months ago and have since put just under 3000 miles on the car. The pulley is leaking oil now and it is coming from the seal that I neglected to change before. I am thinking about just putting the stock one back on as the gains in my opinion didn't seem that noticeable. I am not sure now if re-sealing it will do the trick and fix it or just stop it from leaking temporarily. Will I have to change the belt back if I go back to stock? I am so undecided right now but ****ed because everytime I drive my baby (until Monday when I have time to fix her) I know she is leaking oil.

 

I feel for you, BigCat44. And yes, you will have to change your belt if you go back to stock. But unlike you, I do feel enough of a performance difference that I would not be willing to return to stock. That's why I purchased a UR UDP. It's sitting on a shelf in my closet right now. If my RVM pulley starts to leak . . . and I fully expect it to start leaking sooner or later . . . I'll replace it with the UR.

 

Well, had returned the UDP for scuff marks on the inner spindle. Now I find that the UDP has the bad timing ring and I guess RVM didn't check it while they had it. They told me to give my address to them and they will send one out. Over a week later, I get nothing and no response to 3 emails. Are they still in business?