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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Fog Light re-wire

I really would like to get my fog lights re-wired but I really don't trust myself to do it, so can anyone recommend a place in the Chicagoland area to have this done? Thanks for the help....
Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:37 PM
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Re: Fog Light re-wire

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I really would like to get my fog lights re-wired but I really don't trust myself to do it, so can anyone recommend a place in the Chicagoland area to have this done? Thanks for the help....
The mod takes like 5mins to do. Just cut that one yellow/silver wire if your 2k1, I think it's blue/white if your 2k2. And wire it to the turn signal "+"..
Old Apr 24, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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My Max is a 2k3 so would that be the blue/white wire also? I saw the write up in the how-to section but I think that was for a 2k1 Has anyone with a 2k3 have any pictures or a write up for this mod?
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rewire to do what???? just wondering

thanks
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what's this rewire do?
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Originally posted by digimax
My Max is a 2k3 so would that be the blue/white wire also? I saw the write up in the how-to section but I think that was for a 2k1 Has anyone with a 2k3 have any pictures or a write up for this mod?
Here ya go

http://www.max-world.org/5thgen/how-tos/fogrewire.html
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Originally posted by mingo
what's this rewire do?
You can basically be able to turn on your fogs and daytime running lights without having to turn on your headlights..
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You can basically be able to turn on your fogs and daytime running lights without having to turn on your headlights..

PCguru, can you link me up to the write-up? Also, is there a re-wire mod that let me switch on the fog lights with the high beams on?


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Old Apr 24, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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PCguru, can you link me up to the write-up? Also, is there a re-wire mod that let me switch on the fog lights with the high beams on?


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http://boostedmaximas.com/howto/fogrewire.html

That mod also allows you to use the fogs with high's (I think).
Old Apr 24, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Can someone post some pics on how to do this on a 2K3???...
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 04:27 AM
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Re: Re: Fog Light re-wire

Originally posted by PCGuRu2K


The mod takes like 5mins to do. Just cut that one yellow/silver wire if your 2k1, I think it's blue/white if your 2k2. And wire it to the turn signal "+"..
I don't understand why you connect to the turn signal +...NOT the clearance light +.

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Re: Re: Re: Fog Light re-wire

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I don't understand why you connect to the turn signal +...NOT the clearance light +.

The wire that connect to the yellow wire for the fogs needs to be a switched posative 12 volts wire. Notht the blinkers or you'll have blinking fogs. Just do what the info says and you'll be good.
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 04:42 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Fog Light re-wire

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The wire that connect to the yellow wire for the fogs needs to be a switched posative 12 volts wire. Notht the blinkers or you'll have blinking fogs. Just do what the info says and you'll be good.
Exactly...that is why I asked the question. I think it would look kind of funny with blinking fogs...!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Fog Light re-wire

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I think it would look kind of funny with blinking fogs...!
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 07:54 AM
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day time running lights??? is that for canadian models only??? i only have parking lights.. but i heard it's illegal to drive around wiht just the parking lights night or day..
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I would be VERY interested in finding out how to run my fogs with my daytime running lights! (cdn max) I'm guessing it would be to same as the parking lights mod, but I don't know which wires!
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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I don't remember the wire to tap being listed in the directions posted. It is the blue/white you need to cut and splice into another wire. I just tapped the output wire of the relay to the parking lights (can't remember for sure, but wanna say red/green. I can look if anyone needs me to.) Minimal load on the relay, with no risk overloading the circuit. Keeps the functionality of the stock foglight switch.
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Originally posted by t56gen3
I don't remember the wire to tap being listed in the directions posted. It is the blue/white you need to cut and splice into another wire. I just tapped the output wire of the relay to the parking lights (can't remember for sure, but wanna say red/green. I can look if anyone needs me to.) Minimal load on the relay, with no risk overloading the circuit. Keeps the functionality of the stock foglight switch.
Yes, I would like that rather than running a wire to the headlight...(looks tacky)
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Yes, I would like that rather than running a wire to the headlight...(looks tacky)
Wow, I sure hope no one is actually running wires out of the relay box to the lights themselves! All the light relays are right there. You don't even have to extend the wire! Just a cut, tap, and solder on a neighboring wire!

Sorry, guess I forget not everyone's electrical.

I will try and post it this afternoon for you CMR. Just to make sure we are on the same page---mine is wired so the fogs CAN turn on with the parking lights, but the factory fog switch still functions.
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Wow, I sure hope no one is actually running wires out of the relay box to the lights themselves! All the light relays are right there. You don't even have to extend the wire! Just a cut, tap, and solder on a neighboring wire!

Sorry, guess I forget not everyone's electrical.

I will try and post it this afternoon for you CMR. Just to make sure we are on the same page---mine is wired so the fogs CAN turn on with the parking lights, but the factory fog switch still functions.
Yes...I want to have a functional fog light switch using the parking lights as the power source. BTW, I believe that the how-to specifies to run a wire out from the relay box. It's OK I guess if you want that extra wire floating around...

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Use one of the 3M taps, and now tap into the blinker light (RED) wire. Do not use the side marker lights if you have the corner blinker setup done. (use only what's shown here) Once you have the tap installed, get another 1-2 ft length of wire and run it through the bottom of the relay box, out along the wiring harness that is in that area, to the blinker connector. Crimp on the male flat plug onto that end of the wire which goes to the 3m tap.

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I simply need the correct color out of the fog light relay and the color out of the parking lamp relay. Thanks t56gen3.

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Old Apr 25, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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Just another thought, If you want to be able to turn on the fogs independantly of any other lights. You can just find any other 12v relay that goes live with the key in the ACC position. This is just how I like it on my car...Just thought I'd let you all know there is another option for this install.
If anyone is insterested, I'd be glad to help you out with any questions.
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 01:09 PM
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is there a way to rewire the parking lights to not work when the main headlights are on?....so when you look at the car from the front all you'll see is white lights of the H4 and the H3 fogs. but when i blink it will blink too

does anyone knows what i'm talking about?
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Ok guys, here it is (for the 2k3'ers), prolly the same for the 2k2:

I took mine apart again so I could notate it.

I cut and spliced the BLUE w/SILVER DOTS wire (no white stripe, fog light relay) into the RED/GREEN stripe wire (parking light relay output.) Be sure you tape (seal up) the wire you cut and not use (I soldered mine). I would recommend you solder this if possible--wire taps sometimes damage the tapped wire, over time they corrode and can lose their "bite" on the wires (I used to be a Car Audio/Security installer, I can't even begin to tell you how many wire taps I had to replace to fix issues on customer cars.)

THIS ALLOWS THE FOG LIGHTS TO SWITCH ON AND OFF WITH THE PARKING LIGHTS. The factory fog switch still works.

I took a pic too just for my .ORG buddies (if someone wants to pirate my photo, feel free. I don't have time to build a instruction page.) I think this pic eliminates any confusion.

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Originally posted by t56gen3
Ok guys, here it is (for the 2k3'ers), prolly the same for the 2k2:

I took mine apart again so I could notate it.

I cut and spliced the BLUE w/SILVER DOTS wire (no white stripe, fog light relay) into the RED/GREEN stripe wire (parking light relay output.) Be sure you tape (seal up) the wire you cut and not use (I soldered mine). I would recommend you solder this if possible--wire taps sometimes damage the tapped wire, over time they corrode and can lose their "bite" on the wires (I used to be a Car Audio/Security installer, I can't even begin to tell you how many wire taps I had to replace to fix issues on customer cars.)

THIS ALLOWS THE FOG LIGHTS TO SWITCH ON AND OFF WITH THE PARKING LIGHTS. The factory fog switch still works.

I took a pic too just for my .ORG buddies (if someone wants to pirate my photo, feel free. I don't have time to build a instruction page.) I think this pic eliminates any confusion.


AWESOME.

That is EXACTLY what I wanted...no drilling, no running wires, etc. U DA MAN!
Old Apr 25, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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is there a way to rewire the parking lights to not work when the main headlights are on?
There are 2 answers to that question. Yes and No.

Yes: Anything is possible. It would require an extra relay to be inserted in the parking light circuit before the parking light relay in the relay box shown above. But read the "No" section as to why you won't do this.

No: Because if you do that, all your side and rear marker lights no longer light up, which (at night) is dangerous AND illegal. You WILL get pulled over if you do this.

does anyone knows what i'm talking about?
Yep. I do. And I STRONGLY recommend AGAINST it. Keep with what the instructions say and wire it up to the parking lights.
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Originally posted by t56gen3
I don't remember the wire to tap being listed in the directions posted. It is the blue/white you need to cut and splice into another wire. I just tapped the output wire of the relay to the parking lights (can't remember for sure, but wanna say red/green. I can look if anyone needs me to.) Minimal load on the relay, with no risk overloading the circuit. Keeps the functionality of the stock foglight switch.
Got a question for you. I'm not "electrical", so sorry if this is a dumb question. Is there still stock functionality when no matter which lights you have on, you shut down the car and all the light go off when you lock the car? I mean, do you have to make sure your lights are off when you lock the car (like in older cars), or you don't have to do it ?(like stock)
Thanks.
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Originally posted by t56gen3
Ok guys, here it is (for the 2k3'ers), prolly the same for the 2k2:

I took mine apart again so I could notate it.

I cut and spliced the BLUE w/SILVER DOTS wire (no white stripe, fog light relay) into the RED/GREEN stripe wire (parking light relay output.) Be sure you tape (seal up) the wire you cut and not use (I soldered mine). I would recommend you solder this if possible--wire taps sometimes damage the tapped wire, over time they corrode and can lose their "bite" on the wires (I used to be a Car Audio/Security installer, I can't even begin to tell you how many wire taps I had to replace to fix issues on customer cars.)

THIS ALLOWS THE FOG LIGHTS TO SWITCH ON AND OFF WITH THE PARKING LIGHTS. The factory fog switch still works.

I took a pic too just for my .ORG buddies (if someone wants to pirate my photo, feel free. I don't have time to build a instruction page.) I think this pic eliminates any confusion.

Thanks for the pic/info
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Originally posted by Teser

Got a question for you. I'm not "electrical", so sorry if this is a dumb question. Is there still stock functionality when no matter which lights you have on, you shut down the car and all the light go off when you lock the car? I mean, do you have to make sure your lights are off when you lock the car (like in older cars), or you don't have to do it ?(like stock)
Thanks.
Well, the headlights are automatic, so they function normally. I have to turn off the Auto feature and turn on the parking lights to use the fogs and not the headlights. The only difference is that the headlights do NOT have to be on for the fogs to work, also they do NOT shut off with the high beams on.

Does that answer your question?
Old Apr 26, 2003 | 07:42 AM
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I think what he trying to get at is... If your driving, its daytime, you have your parking lights on and fogs... If you stop, turnoff and get out of the car do you need to do anything?? (auto mode of course)

Regime: Thats the setup I want... Does the above ^ apply to this setup, and what colour wire happens to be an:

"other 12v relay that goes live with the key in the ACC position"

and what does that relay control? So I can test it out to make sure it still works properly...


This thread I think actually accomplished something as opposed to..

"I need new tires, help!"

Thanx!
Old Apr 26, 2003 | 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by Phoenix1911
I think what he trying to get at is... If your driving, its daytime, you have your parking lights on and fogs... If you stop, turnoff and get out of the car do you need to do anything?? (auto mode of course)

Regime: Thats the setup I want... Does the above ^ apply to this setup, and what colour wire happens to be an:

"other 12v relay that goes live with the key in the ACC position"

and what does that relay control? So I can test it out to make sure it still works properly...


This thread I think actually accomplished something as opposed to..

"I need new tires, help!"

Thanx!
You can't have the parking lights ONLY in AUTO mode. You have to manually select that option. AUTO turns on/off everything. The headlights are automatic, and turn themselves off and on along with the parking lights and fogs (if switched on) stock. The stock configuration on allows for the fogs to be on with the headlights, and turns them off when you turn on the high beams. Not to mention, in DAYTIME you AUTO feature won't turn anything on.

Basically it's like this: From the factory the fogs can ONLY be on with the regular low beams, and not the high beams. This rewire allows for you to MANUALLY (no auto) turn on just the parking lights and fogs, or parking lights only (depeneding on fog switch setting.) When the headlights are on AUTO mode, they function as normal--with the exception being that the fogs don't turn off when you kick on the high beams.

So when you have the lights in AUTO the exit delay still works the same, and when it times out and shuts off the headlights/parking lights and the fogs shut off accordingly.

Simply stated: This allows for the fogs to be on anytime the parking lights are on, not just when the headlights (low beams) are on.

If you want to be able to turn on just the fogs and no other lights whatsoever, then you need to tap a different wire (one that is hot with ignition or accessory pending on how you want it to function.)

Can you hear me now? lol j/k
Old Apr 26, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Ok guys, here it is (for the 2k3'ers), prolly the same for the 2k2:

I took mine apart again so I could notate it.

I cut and spliced the BLUE w/SILVER DOTS wire (no white stripe, fog light relay) into the RED/GREEN stripe wire (parking light relay output.) Be sure you tape (seal up) the wire you cut and not use (I soldered mine). I would recommend you solder this if possible--wire taps sometimes damage the tapped wire, over time they corrode and can lose their "bite" on the wires (I used to be a Car Audio/Security installer, I can't even begin to tell you how many wire taps I had to replace to fix issues on customer cars.)

THIS ALLOWS THE FOG LIGHTS TO SWITCH ON AND OFF WITH THE PARKING LIGHTS. The factory fog switch still works.

I took a pic too just for my .ORG buddies (if someone wants to pirate my photo, feel free. I don't have time to build a instruction page.) I think this pic eliminates any confusion.

Thanks for the pic, i still have a sumb question.. Can the fogs still be turned off when the headlights are on?
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Ok, enough with the questions.... here's how it can work:

Switch In Off Position:
1) With the headlight switch to off and fog light switch is off, all lights are off.
2) With the headlight switch to off and fog light switch is on, all lights are off.

Switch In Parking Light Position:
3) With the headlight switch to parking and the fog light switch is off, the parking lights will be on, all others are off.
4) With the headlight switch to parking and the fog light switch is on, the parking lights/fog lights will be on, all others off.

Switch In Auto Position (Low Beams):
5) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is off, the low beams/parking lights will be on at night, off all other times.
6) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is on, the low beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on at night, off all other times.

Switch In Auto Position (High Beams):
7) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is off and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights will be on at night, off all other times.
8) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is on and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on at night, off all other times.

Switch In Headlight Position (Low Beams):
9) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is off, the low beams/parking lights will be on, all others off.
10) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is on, the low beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on, all others off.

Switch In Headlight Position (High Beams):
11) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is off and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights will be on, all others off.
12) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is on and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on, all others off.

In all 12 of these scenarios, the factory fog light switch maintains its original function. The "Auto" feature still functions the same as it would from the factory. The auto-exit delay will function as normal. When the auto-exit delay is over, all lights will be off.

Do you get it now?
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Ok, enough with the questions.... here's how it can work:

Switch In Off Position:
1) With the headlight switch to off and fog light switch is off, all lights are off.
2) With the headlight switch to off and fog light switch is on, all lights are off.

Switch In Parking Light Position:
3) With the headlight switch to parking and the fog light switch is off, the parking lights will be on, all others are off.
4) With the headlight switch to parking and the fog light switch is on, the parking lights/fog lights will be on, all others off.

Switch In Auto Position (Low Beams):
5) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is off, the low beams/parking lights will be on at night, off all other times.
6) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is on, the low beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on at night, off all other times.

Switch In Auto Position (High Beams):
7) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is off and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights will be on at night, off all other times.
8) With the headlight switch to auto and fog light switch is on and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on at night, off all other times.

Switch In Headlight Position (Low Beams):
9) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is off, the low beams/parking lights will be on, all others off.
10) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is on, the low beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on, all others off.

Switch In Headlight Position (High Beams):
11) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is off and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights will be on, all others off.
12) With the headlight switch to on and fog light switch is on and the high beams are activated, the high beams/parking lights/fog lights will be on, all others off.

In all 12 of these scenarios, the factory fog light switch maintains its original function. The "Auto" feature still functions the same as it would from the factory. The auto-exit delay will function as normal. When the auto-exit delay is over, all lights will be off.

Do you get it now?

Im still lost.. How do you.......





















j/k. Thanks, that clears it up a lot...
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Ok I am stuck here....

I got the top off but I cannot get the passengers side of the box to losen up to pull the rest of the box up so I can get at the light. Any suggestions??
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Re: Ok I am stuck here....

Originally posted by TheOzzfather
I got the top off but I cannot get the passengers side of the box to losen up to pull the rest of the box up so I can get at the light. Any suggestions??
There are 4 tabs (2 on each side) that you need to pry apart to get the middle piece to seperate from the bottom. They are very small and are near the center (vertically) of the box. Use a flashlight to help locate them. You'll see how to remove them when you get that far.
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Ok got that now do I take the blue pill or the red pill I mean wire...

Originally posted by studman


There are 4 tabs (2 on each side) that you need to pry apart to get the middle piece to seperate from the bottom. They are very small and are near the center (vertically) of the box. Use a flashlight to help locate them. You'll see how to remove them when you get that far.
There are three red wires. Two have a blue line going down them and one has a green line. Which do I splice into I cant tell in the pic. Being color blind doesnt help
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Re: Ok got that now do I take the blue pill or the red pill I mean wire...

Originally posted by TheOzzfather


There are three red wires. Two have a blue line going down them and one has a green line. Which do I splice into I cant tell in the pic. Being color blind doesnt help

OT: your dogs are cute.... do you usually close the trunk when you take them somewhere?
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Re: Re: Ok got that now do I take the blue pill or the red pill I mean wire...

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OT: your dogs are cute.... do you usually close the trunk when you take them somewhere?
Thanks mang! No one jumped into the back and then the other wanted up so it was a good chance to take a cute picture.
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Re: Re: Re: Ok got that now do I take the blue pill or the red pill I mean wire...

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Thanks mang! No one jumped into the back and then the other wanted up so it was a good chance to take a cute picture.
they seem like quite dogs!
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From: South FLA
Originally posted by t56gen3


Well, the headlights are automatic, so they function normally. I have to turn off the Auto feature and turn on the parking lights to use the fogs and not the headlights. The only difference is that the headlights do NOT have to be on for the fogs to work, also they do NOT shut off with the high beams on.

Does that answer your question?
They actually go off when the high beams are activated. I did exactly what your directions say.



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