Well at last I ordored a SC today!!! I paid $3459 with the new Blitz BOV. Anyways now I don't have any money left to install it until March 14 which is when my CD matures,but I want to get a Evolution body kit with that money. So I have been considering the idea of installing it my self but I am not sure if I am qualified for the job. I have done quite a bit off work on my car{s} like body work and suspension and exaust and some other stuff to but nothing huge like engine work. I would like to know if I would need air tools or any thing special {which I could maybe rent?}. Also could someone give me a basic run down on what is involved{in your own words}. Also what is the hardest part of the install? Thanks for any help/advice it is greatly appreciated!!!

 

Ask DanNY... Hehehehehehee.

 

Yep AKA I thought you knew your $h!t haha.

 

so you will have plenty of time to plan after the cd matures. Did Stillen tell you it was shipping right away?

 

First of all, Congratulations! Now for some practical advice:

Have it professionally installed. Where are you located? I'm sure we could help you find a shop to do it. If you've never done any engine work, you don't want to start by installing a SC. You don't need air tools since the whole kit is bolt on but it is a complicated install. I didn't install mine and I wouldn't recommend that anyone who isn't at home under the hood try it either.

I assume it is a V2 kit? Even more of a reason to have someone do it. I have spoken with several folks who have had V2 kits installed (one was even done by Stillen themselves when the V2 kit first came out) and have yet to hear of a smooth install...I hope yours is the first! I'm not trying to discourage you but you should know what to expect. If it were me, I would cancel the order and shop around for a used V1 kit. They are out there.

You are probably looking at around $1000-1500 for the install plus they'll need your car for about 2-3 days if all goes well...longer if there are complications (and there will be).

Jim

 

It can be done. I did it over a long(30 hours) weekend with a friend of mine.

If it's not your daily ride and you can take your time with it give it a shot. You can always tow it into a shop later.

In the Chicagoland area I was quoted 500-650 for the install from a couple different shops.

I do remember saying out loud "I should have paid someone to do this" but now I'm glad I did it.

It's a toss up. I guess the safe bet would be to have someone else install it that way if there are any problems you can blame them or stillen.

Good luck and speed safely

 

good to know that you know exactly what i was going to say smartarse!

the SC install is not like putting together your struts. you'll need to know electrical stuff too.
like JJW said if you're not too good with under hood stuff then i wouldn't try it. from the previous posts about u jacking up the car and etc...i would recommend u stay away from install it.
but here's a run down...
you'll need to unbolt the cover to install the SC drain line. you'll need to take off the oil psi sensor and plumb the feed line. once that's done you'll have to relocate the fuse box (slightly) and relocate the coolant stuff. take out the alternator and grind that down and take out the water inlet and grind down IF necessary.
at this point you're probably into the project for about 6-7hrs..(most part of the day).
then you'll need to wire in the aux fuel pump. assemble the pipe together w/ the MAF. install the fuel pump and MAKE sure there's no leaks and etc. install the SC w/ the plate loop the belt around. adjust the tensioner and etc. i'm giving u a very general decription. me personally i don't think i would have a problem installing the kit. it's not overly difficult just very very time consuming. for some reason i'm going to see u rush the job and then find a nice oil leak or a fuel leak. then you'll have to take it apart again.
you're playing in the big leagues now...if u want to install this stuff better be armed w/ a lot of tools. be prepare to deal with stubborn bolts and broken bolts. i don't know the condition of your engine but don't expect this kit to drop in w/o a hitch. you better be good w/ a set of EZ outs. you better have air tools to back u up if you get to a bolt that you can't take off. so in saying that do u think u can handle the install?..my personal opinion i don't think you can..but if u think u can then give it a shot. what i recommend doing it to forgo the body kit..get the SC installed...have the grin on your face for a few months. then install the body kit when you get some additional cash. Emax if u can scan the pages of the V2 install for me or make a copy and mail them to me if u can. i would like to take a look at the install differences between the V1 and V2.

and for JJW..i'm sorry man but you assume that people know as much about cars as you. if you give me a complete kit i can put it together in my garage at home. also buying the kit used like yourself sometimes leads to missing parts and extra down time ordering spare parts from stillen..(ask Tony about his experience w/ stillen on that). Emax did the right thing and bought a kit NEW. if he can afford it then why not. $1000 to $1500 for install is them robbing you blind. i know people who got their install for less than $1000...and not one that fall apart a week later.

 

I went to a local speed shop to do the install because they had experience installing Vortech equipment. Main complaint was that the engine bay was very tight. It took them nearly 5 days to get it done right and when I saw the completed job it looked really, really sweet! They quoted me $600.00 Cdn for the install and stuck with that quote (thank goodness!), despite underestimating the time required. Now that they know how to install it on a Max they'll charge a more realistic price on the next guy that wants the S/C installed.

 

DanNy I don't have a scanner so I will bring the a zeroxed copy to the next meet and give it to you.

Hmmm, I think I should play it safe and bring it to a shop. I did a little research and to my surprise there is a shop in R.I. that specializes in SC,Turbo and engine build up installes. So I will go by there and set something up for March 14. Stillen said it is a 8 hour install on average? Does that sound right? It would only cost $50X8=$400 for the install. That would be nice but it's probably not the case.

Confused, I put a deposit down on a kit yesterday because it was the only one in stock. Then I will pay the rest and have it shipped out on March 1'st that way I have a whole month to pay the credit card off.

 

ok thanks. you're better off going to a shop. $400 is really cheap..they will prob charge for stupid stuff like hoses and sealant and etc. but if u can walk out the door for 500-600 you're in good shape.

 

i know i told my self i wasn't going to post here more.. but thats gotta be the funniest **** i have ever heard.. one in stock.. muwhahahahahahahahah get ready to wait there buddy boy

 

You owe me a $210 now haha, I will get you sucka!

When I called Stillen I asked if they had any in stock and he said there is one on the shelf right now. Then he asked if I wanted to leave a deposit and I replied you only have 1 left,next he paused a minute and said he would double check to see, so he came back and said something like there was just the 1 complete kit on the shelf but he also had a Vortech SC and some other piece but not a complete kit. Well I will just take his word for it since I have a real good relation ship with him and he has never screwed me over in the past. Anyways why do you seem so assured he is making this up? Please explain. Thanks Chrrr.

 

How much did you pay for the SC kit? What gen you have?

 

Dude... there's none in stock and there's a waiting list for the SC. So you're saying he pushed you to the top just because? He hasn't screwed you before, but $3k+ is a really good chance to do it on. I also don't remember when Stillen took deposits on the SC. You have to get on the waiting list before you can buy the kit.

Has Stillen sent you the papers to sign yet?

Not a flame... just many questions and statements.

 

Were have you heard there is a waiting list? Have you called recently? I don't see why there whould be a waiting list since I am sure Vortech has tons of SC on hand and then Stillen just puts a kit together and it is not exactly a high demand part. BTW he asked me {with no pressure at all} if I wanted to put $200 deposit on it so that when I ordor on March 1st it will still be in stock. He also said I can change my mind any time and he will cancel it and refund me no problem. Anyways let me know exactly what you know. Hopefully you don't know what your talking about. Thanks

Bert, read my first post and look at my sig.

 

FYI, I have an inside source too... but since I don't know what I'm talking about, I guess I'm wrong. Good luck on the SC.

 

FYI, I have an inside source too... but since I don't know what I'm talking about, I guess I'm wrong. Good luck on the SC.

Don't take it the wrong way bro, I am just saying "hopefully you don't know what you talking about", not that I think that you don't know what your talking about. All right. Thanks for the scoop.

 

Dan,

Thanks! No one has ever accused me of knowing alot about cars. It felt good.

Anyway, I'm curious about the folks you know that had SC kits installed with no problems. Were they V1 kits or V2 kits? I have not spoken with one person who had an easy V2 install. Ask Jose about his install nightmare. However, everyone with a V1 kit that I know had no major problems with it (with the exception of the first few guys who bought them when the kit was first released). I wasn't setting anyone up to be robbed blind...I thought that that was a reasonable amount of money to budget to have the kit installed.

I agree that I was fortunate to have found my kit used via the shop that installed it and the kit was literally taken off of the previous owner's car and put into mine. I also got a fantastic deal on the installation...I wouldn't expect anyone else to be able to find a similar deal but maybe I was wrong. I hope so, but better to estimate high and be happier with a good deal if you find one.

Jim

 

Is there any difference between the V1 kit and the V2 kit? Can anyone let us know? The setup looks the same to me when I look at page 41 of the Road&Track article (Super Max), Oct.1998 issue, except for the optional Blitz bov that replaces the Bosch bov that comes with the kit.

 

Hey Ethan, did you sign those waiver forms yet? Just curious...

 

He did not mention anything about waiver forms.

 

You need to sign waiver forms (i.e. no nos, no ecu mod, etc.) before you can buy the SC. You might want to ask you sales person why you haven't gotten the forms yet. Just a little advise from someone who doesn't know much.

 

Well for Phil and Kev the kit showed up at my door Friday afternoon. So another words {no pun intended} the kit was indeed in stock and my Sales men Dean was not lieing to me.

For any one interested in this matter, I have my SC kit almost completly installed,which I did all by my self. I only have a few steps left and then the install will be completed. I have to wait for the Blizzard to pass before I can finish up because I don't have a garage.

DanY The V2 kit does not require you to shave anything off the Alternator rather loosen and twist the Alternator and attach a 2 inch Dia. Pully right next to the alternator. I have read the V1 instructions and compared them to the V2 directions and they are quite a bit different. The V2 seams a bit more complicated.

 

Glad you got your kit! Good luck with the install! Please let me know how you make out. It would be nice to hear about a first-hand installation of the V2 kit.

Jim

 

Yes there are. You should see this thread https://maxima.org/forums/showthread...threadid=24831 to see what is going on. V2 seems bad.