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Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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VE 5-speed tranny troubles?

How many of you guys have ever broke a VE 5-speed tranny?

I'm trying to find if these trannies can handle some decent power, like say 300 to the wheels or so. I know the POS VG 5-speed tranny can't even handle the VG's power (or lack thereof to the VE guys ) but I hear the VE trannies are good. Just trying to get an idea of how good, that's all.

Just vote if you've had trouble or not and post what kind of trouble you've had. Thanks!!

Please... if you have a VG tranny, don't vote.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:38 PM
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ur stupid, i got 89se i powershift all day long, tranny is very strong.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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i'm... stupid?!?! dang... guess that's why my tranny has broke on me twice. once when thrashing (and not everyday, just weekend things) and the other when it was just sitting doing nothing for many months.

ask many other vg 5-speed owners and they will tell you our borg warner piece of **** sucks.

sorry if i'm coming off hard. it just ticks me off that i already have to replace my tranny and i've not even been using it since march.

and definitely don't go telling people they are stupid on this board. a flame war will erupt so quick the thread will probably be locked or deleted and I'll never get to find out if the swap is worth while.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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ur stupid, i got 89se i powershift all day long, tranny is very strong.
good for you

you also only have 160hp enjoy.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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War of the VG's and VE's under the Maxima nation which both draw the same color trany fluid... Can't we just get along.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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sure we can get along... when my VG beats their VE! buahahaha!

nah, just kidding. Both engines have their pros and cons. VE has VTC problems sometimes but has DOHC heads whereas the VG just has SOHC so it won't breath quite as good. VG has a bit more room in the engine bay compared to VE. The list just goes on and on.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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Well if you want, look into what would have caused my tranny to blow a chunk out of the bellhousing, http://www.launch2k.com/mrgone/ I'm not too sure why it did that, I bought the car that way.

I think if you get a VE tranny (almost all of them seem to be VLSD's) you will be set, just might want to tear it apart and check it for tolerances, etc. new seals, etc. They dont have the 3rd gear breakage problem the VQ 5spds tend to have.


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ur stupid, i got 89se i powershift all day long, tranny is very strong.
Wow, you powershift!!!! thats soooo neat! so your clutch must last forever since you powershift all day long!!!! wow!! Dumbass.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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holy****! that's one crazy hole! i wonder how that did happen. did the aluminum just snap off?
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:18 PM
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I don't know about you guys, but I powerglide.


..in my 67 camaro rs/ss 350 convertible. Yes, the 2-speed transmission. "Fast" and "Faster".


mtcookson- btw, my transmission is just fine. Just be sure to get a transmission that has been taken care of (good gear oil, shifting by USING the clutch pedal, etc)
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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bah... slushboxes. at least that's what my dad and his friends use to call them. i would take a manual over an auto anyday... unless of course i was doing some insane drag racing.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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well when I dropped the tranny, more oil came out of the bellhousing then it did from the tranny. Judging by metal, it looks like that shaft put too much pressure on that chunk of metal and made it pop outward (towards the engine). It doesnt look like a sheer or tension type of break.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:22 PM
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that's weird. bearing must have broke and lodged in there somewhere making that piece pop out. i need to find out how good the altima trannies are also. i think those will fit as well.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:23 PM
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fully built auto mmmm full manual reverse valve body, 5 sun gears, etc. shifts so hard the dash breaks the front window... mmmm

Powershifting a Maxima tranny is like powershifting a T5, you just dont do it.

edit: I C4. Yay for shift kits!
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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you pretty much don't powershift any borg warner... lol
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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I had trouble with the linkage wearing down and the tranny getting stuck in second. 300 smackers later it runs like a top.
Old Oct 26, 2003 | 11:37 PM
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damn... the altima tranny won't fit. another case of borg warner using the exact same tranny code yet changing the bell housing bolt pattern.

97 Altima tranny = no worky
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:12 AM
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my 92 5spd got stuck in second thats the only problem that i have had except that its a vlsd tranny but when i turn one wheel forward the other spinns backward so i think my lsd dont work any more
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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Around 80k the stock tranny developed a bad T/O bearing, fork, and 2-3 hub if I recall correctly- the car had been treated a bit rough. Got tranny rebuilt, took to about 100k on the replaced clutch- didn't like the weak feel of the cheapo replacement, so got a dealer to install dual friction (CF- and yeah, I know, I heard later on that they were not that hot, but after 18k on the DF clutch, I love it so far.) A bit of info here- a Max VLSD tranny will run approx. 1/2 mile with no fluid in it, after that, almost impossible to shift- NOSHIFT_Coast to dealer. Brainfaded dealer replaces with "new" rebuilt VLSD tranny...

I drive my max hard, but I never drop-clutch start, always a short controlled slip (hence the clutch I bought)- doing this may wear out the clutch a bit faster, but it seems easier on all other things involved.. I shift borderline harshly about 75% of the time, and the trans feels tight as when it was replaced.
Old Oct 27, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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dang... wish i could somehow get the 02-03 6-speed or the new Altima 5-speed in there. It would definately handle the power then. hopefully the vlsd tranny can handle turbo power for a while.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
damn... the altima tranny won't fit. another case of borg warner using the exact same tranny code yet changing the bell housing bolt pattern.

97 Altima tranny = no worky

if it's the same number, could you swap the bell housing off a max tranny to the alti tranny?
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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i also remember 4signs having alot of trouble with his 5spd
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by LittlePiggie
if it's the same number, could you swap the bell housing off a max tranny to the alti tranny?
more than likely, but it's really hard to find a maxima bell housing.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
more than likely, but it's really hard to find a maxima bell housing.

...are you serious? just find a tranny that shredded something on the inside and they don't want to rebuild it
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 06:46 PM
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i'll try finding one, but it's usually pretty difficult. i know it if for the vg tranny.
Old Oct 29, 2003 | 07:56 PM
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hmm, I'll look too
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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i'm on my third tranny..the first had 174k on it, not sure how the previous owner drove but id assume a little "nicer" than me. after about 30k of my abuse and never changing the fluid (we'll assume the previous owner didnt either) and a clutch later (15k on the POS replacement clutch) it finally *what i think* cross shifted itself. after that i couldnt reverse..i mean i could get it into reverse and if the surface was flat i could inch backward but otherwise the car would just shake violently..when i brought it to a tranny shop the tech that drove the car said "ughhh thats wierd"..so i got a reman and it was dead, now i have another reman and we'll see how it goes, i'll finish installing it tomorrow.
hope that helps.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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hmm... it's just making it look not so good. lol.

i may send one of the trannies in to get it cryo treated... but i'm not sure yet.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 12:56 AM
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How are u intending on unbolting the bell housing (part of the box that contains clutch, flywheel etc...), when its cast with the front half of the gearbox. If the bellhousing is differant there is a good chance that the internalls are also differant. Unless this has been done before I would jump into anything. As i can see that in the pic that u posted and that 99% or so FWD boxs don't have a unboltable bellhousing like a most RWD boxes.
U would be better off getting the box rebuild with better synco's or dog engagement synco's. Whould be nice if u could just replace it with the next size up like some engine/boxes can.

Or try not being so ham fisted when u shift, clutch is there for more than just the startline. Its easier not to abuse what u have in the first place than to think of ways to withstand your abuse.

My thinking at least.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
hmm... it's just making it look not so good. lol.

i may send one of the trannies in to get it cryo treated... but i'm not sure yet.
IMHO, get a VE tranny cryo treated.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:22 AM
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if the trannies are designed the same but with different bell housings all you have to do is change the entire front section. which really, now that i think about it, is prety pointless. it would take a lot of work since all of the gears of attached to the front section.

that was my plan, to get a ve tranny cryo treated. i was also thining about sending it to a guy in wichita that basically makes drag race trannies all day. it would cost much more... like somewhere from 2000-3000, but i hear he does really good work. he can also put a differential lock-out on or something like that. that will put the same power to both wheels no matter what, from what i understand.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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That was my point in the first place.

All u would need would be a LSD type arrangement, cost far less than the lock up style will.

Cyro treating I have heard great thing but never seen or know of any thats had it done. Its pretty cheap I'm lead to believe also.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 03:34 PM
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yeah, the cryo treating is pretty cheap.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack.
War of the VG's and VE's under the Maxima nation which both draw the same color trany fluid... Can't we just get along.
Hahahahahaha.
Old Nov 3, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
yeah, the cryo treating is pretty cheap.
Do you know how much??? Perhaps per gear or...all five??
Old Nov 3, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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i want to say it wasn't over 200 to get the whole thing done. don't quote me on that though. this was a few years back. www.300below.com was the people who quoted me but my hard drive has failed since then so i lost the e-mail.
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