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Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:24 PM
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Just got cited for clear side markers

On my way home tonight I got pulled over and got a fix it ticket. I had them on for about two years now, I guess it was about time. Now I have to go through the hassle of getting it signed off. Anyone know how much the OEM lights are? I guess I'll give Dave a call tomorrow. BTW, I live in Los Angeles, CA. for those of you in this area, watch for those motorcycle cops trying to meet their quota.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:27 PM
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dude if u need the stock ones. i can let u borrow them and get them cleared.. and return it back to me... i have both front and rear....
pm me
so far i havent got any hassle bout my clears
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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You probably have white lights in them, correct?
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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I still have my clears, but no lights in them at all. No hassles yet, but I kept the old ones just in case
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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got a ticket too, but mine wasnt a fix it. He said fix its are for manufactrure defects. ie. if a headlight burns out...
whatever...
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
You probably have white lights in them, correct?
Yup, I have white bulbs in them. But the California codes says they need to reflect amber light in front and red light in rear also. So just putting colored bulbs might work, except for those **** cops.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by kpark
Yup, I have white bulbs in them. But the California codes says they need to reflect amber light in front and red light in rear also. So just putting colored bulbs might work, except for those **** cops.

So California law is stricter than the Federal codes in this matter? That sucks...

Federal code states that the reflection of the side markers can be of two natures...

1. Either the reflective lens itself is amber/red
2. The lens is clear with an approved color bulb (amber/red) providing the color...
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:13 PM
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What type of "white" bulbs are you running?

Also, do you have front AND rear clear corners?

Cops really pick on blue lights, but also anything white on the rear-end of the car. I leave my rears withOUT bulbs. Looks good during the day, but is invisible at night. I run PIAA super whites in the front clears and have stayed away from Xtremes, because they look blue.

Definitely stay away from blue lights and try to eliminate white in the rear. 3yrs. without a ticket. *knock on wood*

Originally Posted by kpark
Yup, I have white bulbs in them. But the California codes says they need to reflect amber light in front and red light in rear also. So just putting colored bulbs might work, except for those **** cops.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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kpark: Sorry about your ticket! I'm looking for some rear clears... you selling?
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:41 PM
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I have been pulled over on my old max 3 times before in 2 weeks for blue lights...the code on the repair order said "Blue lighting device"
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:42 PM
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they dont really care around here...
the POLICE was just a hater.
CHP, or sherrifs dont care, i didnt even get sighted for that on sunset. But police are lame
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 08:50 PM
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Funny thing was that when he pulled me over he told me the fronts are supposed to be red and rears are supposed to be amber. Shows how much he knew what he was talking about.
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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i've never been hassled by cops on my clears or tints... whenever i got pulled over....
its the F U K I N campus police that u have to worry about... they sit all day doin nothing...
they'll pull u over for anything
Old Nov 20, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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haha, never had a problem with campus police.

chp docked me for no front plate and tint on sunset
and police for clears, reverse lights on the 118 freeway
lame a$$ tried to get me for aftermarket HIDS too, good thing i keep the manual in the glove. what a moron
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 04:14 AM
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I would say install amber and red leds. It is cheaper then changing out the clears.

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Old Nov 21, 2003 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
So California law is stricter than the Federal codes in this matter? That sucks...

Federal code states that the reflection of the side markers can be of two natures...

1. Either the reflective lens itself is amber/red
2. The lens is clear with an approved color bulb (amber/red) providing the color...

that is incorrect!! they MUST REFLECT AMBER/RED!! at night, colored bulbs may give the impression that they are stock/legal. but the law still states that they MUST REFLECT. why does this need to come up every week? i have clears with colored bulbs, but i understand that if i get a ticket i cant b!tch.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
that is incorrect!! they MUST REFLECT AMBER/RED!! at night, colored bulbs may give the impression that they are stock/legal. but the law still states that they MUST REFLECT. why does this need to come up every week? i have clears with colored bulbs, but i understand that if i get a ticket i cant b!tch.

Never been harrased by any cop for my clears, but my clears have the reflector backing.I run Polarg hybirds, they shine a silver color ,with a tiny hint of blue if you get real close up on them. I do have polarg hyper ambers and reds stashed in my glove compartment just incase i meet a real **** cop that tells me i need to switch back.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rafe
Never been harrased by any cop for my clears, but my clears have the reflector backing.I run Polarg hybirds, they shine a silver color ,with a tiny hint of blue if you get real close up on them. I do have polarg hyper ambers and reds stashed in my glove compartment just incase i meet a real **** cop that tells me i need to switch back.
Rafe - So why not just run with the polarg hyper reds and ambers? I just ordered a set of these bulbs and understand they shine pretty close to stock at night (no pinkish or unine yellow hue!). Were you unhappy with the look of the colored polarg's? I'd really be interested to see pics of the hyper amber and red polargs if anyone can assist.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:18 AM
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that sucks man... i got pulled over for my clear sidemarkers also... i have the polarg hyperwhites in there... he said something about i can impersonate a cop if i was able to flash those "blue lights" on and off... which was why he pulled me over?... anyway.. he let me go ..
i dont know the technicality of everything.. but i think putting colored bulbs in your clears will be good enough for them to really not notice....
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by housecor
Rafe - So why not just run with the polarg hyper reds and ambers? I just ordered a set of these bulbs and understand they shine pretty close to stock at night (no pinkish or unine yellow hue!). Were you unhappy with the look of the colored polarg's? I'd really be interested to see pics of the hyper amber and red polargs if anyone can assist.

I like the look of my polargs because they match very well with my HIDS/clearance lights. I put the the polarg amber and reds in there before and they look good yoo , but i like the consistancy of the clean look that i get from the polarg hyper whites. I have them also in my rear license plate lights too.

I have had cops drive by real slowly because they put out a good amount of light and when somebody is near you it gives you extra light to view the person besides you. Its funny sometimes to see people checking you out like what the hell kind of lights does he have on the side of his car.Especially if your on a dark stretch of road or highway and somebody comes up on you from the side. The reflector base helps give that silverish look to them , so it almost looks like my car has a silver aura around it. Pretty neat to see, i'll take a picture of it and post it to you guys on Monday.

But like i said , until i get stopped or cited for it , i am keeping the polargs hyper whites in.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:09 AM
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I don't have a Max yet but why does it matter what color the sidemarkers are? Most cars don't even have side markers. Is it because the true corners of the car don't reflect?
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ABDomega
I don't have a Max yet but why does it matter what color the sidemarkers are? Most cars don't even have side markers. Is it because the true corners of the car don't reflect?
After hearing others make this "most cars don't have side markers" argument recently I've started keeping an eye out. Actually, every car has front amber and rear red reflectors. Often the front amber reflector is integrated into the headlight and rather small. The rear reflector is usually simply a wrap around red tail light. (remember, the rear side of the vehicle just needs to reflect red at some point) On the 5th gen max, the front and rear colored side markers are neccessary because the headlights don't contain a amber reflector that is viewable from the side and the tailights don't wraparound.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by ABDomega
I don't have a Max yet but why does it matter what color the sidemarkers are? Most cars don't even have side markers. Is it because the true corners of the car don't reflect?
EVERY CAR HAS AMBER/RED REFLECTING SIDE MARKERS
they MUST REFLECT AMBER/RED!! at night, colored bulbs may give the impression that they are stock/legal. but the law still states that they MUST REFLECT. why does this need to come up every week? i have clears with colored bulbs, but i understand that if i get a ticket i cant b!tch.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by housecor
After hearing others make this "most cars don't have side markers" argument recently I've started keeping an eye out. Actually, every car has front amber and rear red reflectors. Often the front amber reflector is integrated into the headlight and rather small. The rear reflector is usually simply a wrap around red tail light. (remember, the rear of the vehicle just needs to reflect red at some point) On the 5th gen max, the front and rear colored side markers are neccessary because the headlights don't contain a amber reflector that is viewable from the side and the tailights don't wraparound.
true that!!
can someone please sticky something that says.
CLEAR CORNERS ARE TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL BECAUSE EVERY CAR MUST HAVE AMBER/RED REFLECTING SIDE MARKERS
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 09:52 AM
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I can't speak for other states but MD law states the light has to emit amber in front/red in the back. I called MD DMV about a year ago, the lady mailed the law/code to me, I keep a copy in my glove box at all times just in case.
Old Nov 21, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ICULookN
I can't speak for other states but MD law states the light has to emit amber in front/red in the back. I called MD DMV about a year ago, the lady mailed the law/code to me, I keep a copy in my glove box at all times just in case.
good idea
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The NHTSB has a legal database that you can look at...unfortunately I do not have the link with me. When I find it, I'll post it here and let you all read for yourself what the law says...
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Originally Posted by kpark
On my way home tonight I got pulled over and got a fix it ticket. I had them on for about two years now, I guess it was about time. Now I have to go through the hassle of getting it signed off. Anyone know how much the OEM lights are? I guess I'll give Dave a call tomorrow. BTW, I live in Los Angeles, CA. for those of you in this area, watch for those motorcycle cops trying to meet their quota.
quota=old myth
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ighettoboyi
quota=old myth
ummm, NO ITS NOT!
Old Nov 22, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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quota=old myth
That depends on how you look at it. Where I live, cops have to write a certain number of tickets to have the privilege to drive a patrol car home. They need a certain amount of money to keep the operation going. Writing traffic violations is a good source of revenue for just about all local law enforcement agencies. I know for a fact that they could meet the "quota" in one day just on writing speeding tickets. In Florida, you can get a speeding ticket from the city, county and state police (FHP) as well as other state law enforcement officers.
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Originally Posted by ICULookN
I can't speak for other states but MD law states the light has to emit amber in front/red in the back. I called MD DMV about a year ago, the lady mailed the law/code to me, I keep a copy in my glove box at all times just in case.
Old Nov 23, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by soonerfan
ummm, NO ITS NOT!
I dont know about virginia or whatever sh!tty as s state you come from, but I know for a fact in the city that I live, it is completely false. We have family and neighbors on the force, don't be stupid. They laugh every time I ask that question.
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