my car (95 maxima se 5spd vs. 2002 spec v 6spd)?!?!?
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my car (95 maxima se 5spd vs. 2002 spec v 6spd)?!?!?
what would win? I have a y pipe, resonated b pipe, high flow cat, and technosquare ecu, and a frankencar intake vs. a 2002 spec v with headers, intake, high flow cat, cat-back, balance shaft removal, and UDP...
what tire pressures are best for straight line on our cars? i know on the spec v's, its like 28 up front and 38 out back or somethin....I have 235/45/ZR17's all around??!?! what psi for best straight line times? and what rpm should i launch at? dump is better than slipping on our cars right?
about if i added the intake manifold spacers, flywheel and udp? on top of the other stuff i have above? what would the race be like then?
what tire pressures are best for straight line on our cars? i know on the spec v's, its like 28 up front and 38 out back or somethin....I have 235/45/ZR17's all around??!?! what psi for best straight line times? and what rpm should i launch at? dump is better than slipping on our cars right?
about if i added the intake manifold spacers, flywheel and udp? on top of the other stuff i have above? what would the race be like then?
Well your other thread got locked so this one might too, but I thought I'd post before people who don't know what they are talking about fill the thread with a bunch of misinformation yet again.
Spec V's are quick for what they are but mod for mod and stock vs stock they do are not as fast as a 4th gen maxima. Mod for mod a spec V is about .4 seconds slower.
Here is a copy and paste of their Top 1/4 Mile Performers. Notice all the mods they have to do to get down in the 14.6s and 14.7s. It just goes up from there as they get faster.
For comparison, I ran 14.8 stock and 14.4 with a Y pipe alone, with about 100K miles on it. What's a spec V got to have to run a 14.4?
All you people that think the spec V is faster than the 4th gen. Look at the numbers, the numbers don't lie. The 4th gen is the faster car by a significant margin.
V-boost- 2.211 60', 14.2@ 98 (02 Spec V) AEFHNS
SERiousV-2.113 60', 14.294@ 96.01 mph ('03 Spec V Sunburst) AEFHPSW&^
pituala- 2.16 60', 14.40@ 96.12 (02 Spec V Blackout) ABEHPSTVWX&^
Laloosh - 2.171 60', 14.443 @ 94.45 (02 Spec V, Red) AHEPSW
jonwepa - 2.13 60' 14.620@ 93.89(02 spec V) AHEPS
Red V-locity 2.38 60', 14.731@ 94.86 (03 Spec V,Red) AEH&^
houstonspecv, 2.15 60', 14.81@92mph (02 specv, black) A&
7SPEED 2.236 60', 14.854@ 92.06(03 Spec V, White) AEP&
zeroend 2.2051 60', 14.87 @ 89.96 (02 Spec V, Black) A^
pimpride- 2.269 60', 14.976@ 93.7 (02 Spec V)AH&V
03_v_in_stl- 2.278 60', 14.98@ 92 (03 Spec V) ABEPS^
15-second club
CorNut- 2.67 60', 15.02@ 92.12 (03 Spec V Molten Silver) AEHPS&^
Lawerence - 2.183 60', 15.088@ 90.85mph (02 SpecV molten Silver) A
specracer2- 2.268 60' 15.095@ 89.77mph (liquid silver03' specV)
Fear_me 2.293 60' 15.124@ 92.01mph (02 spec-v, blackout) AHEP^
blkpwr-.500 60' 15.135@91mph (02 blackout Spec V) AEHV
Brucek2 - 2.357 60', 15.138@ 91.88mph ('02 SPEC V, Molton Silver) AHE^
tekmode - 2.287 60', 15.182@ 91.59mph('03 Spec V Black) AES^
SpecVStillen; 2.247 60', 15.186 @ 91.93 mph ('02 Spec V, silver) AEH^
FastSpecV 2.155 60', 15.196 @88.54 mph (02 Spec V, Blackout) Stock
CPSpecV03 - 2.355 60', 15.267@ 91.05 (03 Spec Silver) AE
WherestheV- 60 .2.204 ,1/4 15.29@ 93.1(02,SE-R, Red ) AEHP
stumon- 2.256 60', 15.297@ 89.95mph (02 Spec V, Blackout) A
lostspecv - 2.254 60', 15.306@ 89.97mph (03 Spec V, Blue) ES^
03sv 2.294 60' 15.414@ 87.90(03 blackout)AEHP
mpcc82- 2.366 60'; 15.422 @91.30; (03 spec v) AE
thumpinSpecV- 2.29 60', 15.44@ 89.60 (03 Spec V Yellow) A
plinko- 2.369 60', 15.554@ 88.72mph (02 Spec V, Blackout)
ca03specV 2.457 60', 15.63@ 90.299mph (03 Spec V, Molten) A^
16-second club
A=Air intake (CAI, POP, K&N, etc)
B=Throttle body coolant bypass
C=ECU upgrade
D=Drag radials or other DOT-legal "sticky" tires
E=Exhaust
F=Flywheel
G=Head work (porting, etc)
H=Header
I=Upgraded intercooler (over "spec" DET/kit IC)
J=J-spec motor swap (VE, DE, DET)
K=Kit(FMAX, Hotshot, FI racing, etc.)
L=Lower end work (pistons, etc)
M=MAF
N=Nawwwwsssss
O=Short shifter
P=Underdrive pullies
Q=Quaife or other aftermarket differential
R=Race fuel
S=Suspension
T=timing advance
U=Upgraded turbo (over "spec" DET/kit turbo)
V=Knock Sensor Mod
W=Weight reduction (other than just spare, jack and floormats)
X=Cams
Y=Ported TB
Z=Stand alone fuel management
&=balance shaft removal
%=butterfly valve removal/kept open
*=Clutch
^=Motor mounts
}=Slicks
$=2000-2001 SE models without performance package(no stock LSD)V=Knock Sensor Mod
Spec V's are quick for what they are but mod for mod and stock vs stock they do are not as fast as a 4th gen maxima. Mod for mod a spec V is about .4 seconds slower.
Here is a copy and paste of their Top 1/4 Mile Performers. Notice all the mods they have to do to get down in the 14.6s and 14.7s. It just goes up from there as they get faster.
For comparison, I ran 14.8 stock and 14.4 with a Y pipe alone, with about 100K miles on it. What's a spec V got to have to run a 14.4?
All you people that think the spec V is faster than the 4th gen. Look at the numbers, the numbers don't lie. The 4th gen is the faster car by a significant margin.
V-boost- 2.211 60', 14.2@ 98 (02 Spec V) AEFHNS
SERiousV-2.113 60', 14.294@ 96.01 mph ('03 Spec V Sunburst) AEFHPSW&^
pituala- 2.16 60', 14.40@ 96.12 (02 Spec V Blackout) ABEHPSTVWX&^
Laloosh - 2.171 60', 14.443 @ 94.45 (02 Spec V, Red) AHEPSW
jonwepa - 2.13 60' 14.620@ 93.89(02 spec V) AHEPS
Red V-locity 2.38 60', 14.731@ 94.86 (03 Spec V,Red) AEH&^
houstonspecv, 2.15 60', 14.81@92mph (02 specv, black) A&
7SPEED 2.236 60', 14.854@ 92.06(03 Spec V, White) AEP&
zeroend 2.2051 60', 14.87 @ 89.96 (02 Spec V, Black) A^
pimpride- 2.269 60', 14.976@ 93.7 (02 Spec V)AH&V
03_v_in_stl- 2.278 60', 14.98@ 92 (03 Spec V) ABEPS^
15-second club
CorNut- 2.67 60', 15.02@ 92.12 (03 Spec V Molten Silver) AEHPS&^
Lawerence - 2.183 60', 15.088@ 90.85mph (02 SpecV molten Silver) A
specracer2- 2.268 60' 15.095@ 89.77mph (liquid silver03' specV)
Fear_me 2.293 60' 15.124@ 92.01mph (02 spec-v, blackout) AHEP^
blkpwr-.500 60' 15.135@91mph (02 blackout Spec V) AEHV
Brucek2 - 2.357 60', 15.138@ 91.88mph ('02 SPEC V, Molton Silver) AHE^
tekmode - 2.287 60', 15.182@ 91.59mph('03 Spec V Black) AES^
SpecVStillen; 2.247 60', 15.186 @ 91.93 mph ('02 Spec V, silver) AEH^
FastSpecV 2.155 60', 15.196 @88.54 mph (02 Spec V, Blackout) Stock
CPSpecV03 - 2.355 60', 15.267@ 91.05 (03 Spec Silver) AE
WherestheV- 60 .2.204 ,1/4 15.29@ 93.1(02,SE-R, Red ) AEHP
stumon- 2.256 60', 15.297@ 89.95mph (02 Spec V, Blackout) A
lostspecv - 2.254 60', 15.306@ 89.97mph (03 Spec V, Blue) ES^
03sv 2.294 60' 15.414@ 87.90(03 blackout)AEHP
mpcc82- 2.366 60'; 15.422 @91.30; (03 spec v) AE
thumpinSpecV- 2.29 60', 15.44@ 89.60 (03 Spec V Yellow) A
plinko- 2.369 60', 15.554@ 88.72mph (02 Spec V, Blackout)
ca03specV 2.457 60', 15.63@ 90.299mph (03 Spec V, Molten) A^
16-second club
A=Air intake (CAI, POP, K&N, etc)
B=Throttle body coolant bypass
C=ECU upgrade
D=Drag radials or other DOT-legal "sticky" tires
E=Exhaust
F=Flywheel
G=Head work (porting, etc)
H=Header
I=Upgraded intercooler (over "spec" DET/kit IC)
J=J-spec motor swap (VE, DE, DET)
K=Kit(FMAX, Hotshot, FI racing, etc.)
L=Lower end work (pistons, etc)
M=MAF
N=Nawwwwsssss
O=Short shifter
P=Underdrive pullies
Q=Quaife or other aftermarket differential
R=Race fuel
S=Suspension
T=timing advance
U=Upgraded turbo (over "spec" DET/kit turbo)
V=Knock Sensor Mod
W=Weight reduction (other than just spare, jack and floormats)
X=Cams
Y=Ported TB
Z=Stand alone fuel management
&=balance shaft removal
%=butterfly valve removal/kept open
*=Clutch
^=Motor mounts
}=Slicks
$=2000-2001 SE models without performance package(no stock LSD)V=Knock Sensor Mod
Originally Posted by michaelnyden
what would win? I have a y pipe, resonated b pipe, high flow cat, and technosquare ecu, and a frankencar intake vs. a 2002 spec v with headers, intake, high flow cat, cat-back, balance shaft removal, and UDP...
what tire pressures are best for straight line on our cars? i know on the spec v's, its like 28 up front and 38 out back or somethin....I have 235/45/ZR17's all around??!?! what psi for best straight line times? and what rpm should i launch at? dump is better than slipping on our cars right?
about if i added the intake manifold spacers, flywheel and udp? on top of the other stuff i have above? what would the race be like then?
what tire pressures are best for straight line on our cars? i know on the spec v's, its like 28 up front and 38 out back or somethin....I have 235/45/ZR17's all around??!?! what psi for best straight line times? and what rpm should i launch at? dump is better than slipping on our cars right?
about if i added the intake manifold spacers, flywheel and udp? on top of the other stuff i have above? what would the race be like then?
I agree with Neal. The Spec-V is great little car, but it can't touch the topend acceleration of a 4th gen especially one with an intake, y-pipe, and exhaust. Most us ran 95mph+ with just a y-pipe and intake. As you can see above, it takes quite a few mods to get a Spec-V to hit 94mph+.
BTW, if you fubar your launch just a little and he gets off the line a little better, you won't catch up till 80mph or so.
I can easily launch at 4000rpms with my 235/45s. All I do is slip the clutch to feel the car start to move and then I quickly release the clutch while feeding the car gas. This usually results in lower 2.2 60 foots which is decent for a FWD sedan.
Dave
BTW, if you fubar your launch just a little and he gets off the line a little better, you won't catch up till 80mph or so.
I can easily launch at 4000rpms with my 235/45s. All I do is slip the clutch to feel the car start to move and then I quickly release the clutch while feeding the car gas. This usually results in lower 2.2 60 foots which is decent for a FWD sedan.
Dave
Originally Posted by ga2000
i also have a spec v. an 02 to be exact. stock for stock they run about the same.. my best run with just inake is a 15.28 at 91 mph.. i think the spec with those mods witha good driver would do mid 14s.. the spec v unless dropped is very very hard to launch.. wheel hop up the ***.. if u get the launch u will win..
But that's just my point, they don't run about the same. 15.4ish @90 is about typical for a decently driven spec V. 15.0 @ 92 is about typical for a decently driven 4th gen.
The fastest stock passes in spec Vs dont hold a candle to the fastest stock passes in 4th gens, and its the same with the modified ones. Stock for stock, and mod for mod, the 4th gen is faster.
lots of spec v's at the track yesterday putting down 15.4. talked with one guy, had stripped interior, aftermarket exhaust and nitrous, best run 14.8, I saw the guy run a 14.9
dont know much about the cars out there - i like the spec v, real cool !
dont know much about the cars out there - i like the spec v, real cool !
Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
lots of spec v's at the track yesterday putting down 15.4. talked with one guy, had stripped interior, aftermarket exhaust and nitrous, best run 14.8, I saw the guy run a 14.9
dont know much about the cars out there - i like the spec v, real cool !
dont know much about the cars out there - i like the spec v, real cool !
Originally Posted by luckee2bhere
Slizans friend ran 15.3 on Naws
the guy with nitrous has a 2000 sentra with the sr20de and performance package. he ran the 15.3 @ 93. he has NO traction in first gear. this car is definately well into the 14's once he hooks up.
my brother who has a 03 spec-v ran a 15.4 - 15.5 stock
my altima is suppose to run 17.2 stock, and I ran a 15.6 with just a high flow cone filter and a highflow muffler, 50 shot of dry N2O. (everything else was stock). plus i was with my full interior, heavy a$$ chrome wheels, and only 500psi max in the tank (i had no bottle heater). So i figured with the upgrades I have now, i should hit 14s easily in my automatic
I have played with 7SPEED a few times and before he got his exhaust I would pull on him hard right about 80 mph with my auto with y pipe and frankencar... with a good 5spd driver, we should run all over them top end... i've seen it
Originally Posted by BlueBOB
I have played with 7SPEED a few times and before he got his exhaust I would pull on him hard right about 80 mph with my auto with y pipe and frankencar... with a good 5spd driver, we should run all over them top end... i've seen it
More like 100mph u would start to pull. Yeah its me aka 7SPEED .
But yeah michaelnyden, I don't know how much the ECU helps your car, do you have any dyno #'s or track times? Since the Spec has header...I say Spec takes it. It should be close though.
Originally Posted by KJ
More like 100mph u would start to pull. Yeah its me aka 7SPEED .
But yeah michaelnyden, I don't know how much the ECU helps your car, do you have any dyno #'s or track times? Since the Spec has header...I say Spec takes it. It should be close though.
But yeah michaelnyden, I don't know how much the ECU helps your car, do you have any dyno #'s or track times? Since the Spec has header...I say Spec takes it. It should be close though.
The fastest guys with ECU and no MEVI are running 14.0 and 14.1... I don't think the spec V has a chance if the original poster can drive worth a damn.
haha, sorry, Kevin = 7SPEED = KJ
dwayne is just another maxima enthusiast that isn't on the org. he drives a white 98 5spd with 19" version of the dodge wheels and he's got MEVI/custom exhaust/pr cai/y pipe and i think pulley, i'm not sure. he doesn't have an ECU and his best time in the quarter is 15.3 i think... not 15.1
dwayne is just another maxima enthusiast that isn't on the org. he drives a white 98 5spd with 19" version of the dodge wheels and he's got MEVI/custom exhaust/pr cai/y pipe and i think pulley, i'm not sure. he doesn't have an ECU and his best time in the quarter is 15.3 i think... not 15.1
Originally Posted by BlueBOB
haha, sorry, Kevin = 7SPEED = KJ
dwayne is just another maxima enthusiast that isn't on the org. he drives a white 98 5spd with 19" version of the dodge wheels and he's got MEVI/custom exhaust/pr cai/y pipe and i think pulley, i'm not sure. he doesn't have an ECU and his best time in the quarter is 15.3 i think... not 15.1
dwayne is just another maxima enthusiast that isn't on the org. he drives a white 98 5spd with 19" version of the dodge wheels and he's got MEVI/custom exhaust/pr cai/y pipe and i think pulley, i'm not sure. he doesn't have an ECU and his best time in the quarter is 15.3 i think... not 15.1
He's got some type of piggyback ecu or something. Still w/ 19's... he should hav hit better then 10.4 in the 1/8 2wks ago
If I mishift or hit 2.4 60's I still hit at least 9.8.But well yeah if this guy can hit low 14's with those mods then he should take it. Mid 14's and it'll be close.
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