What should come first in the back, rstb or sway bar?

 

sway bar. 9 10

 

sway first. you can only feel the improvement from a strut bar when you have other stuff(ie. struts and springs and sway).

 

I dont know because I am no suspension expert but it seems to me that it would be RSTB first. You dont see people saying to put FSTB on only after front sways so why should it be any different in the rear. I say stiffen the chassis by tower braces (rstb, fstb) and lower tie bar first then add the sways. This may not be correct but it seems logical to me.

 

sounds logical, thanks!

 

Not true !! I felt a nice difference before even leaving my parking lot.

 

i have no experience with the RSTB, but I'm going to vote RSB. For the difference it made for me, how could you not? lol.


Seriously get the RSB. I'm sooo glad Jeff made me get it (well he didn't make me, he just said "buy this now" lol).

Then again I think at those speeds the RSB might not be quite as handy, I'd really wait for Matt or Jeff's opinion on this one. I really felt the RSB when taking sharper corners, the rear end seemed to stay in line abit more, but it also behaved much better on the high way. I know when doing quick left right left weaving that the struts/springs and FSTB really really helped out alot in the front, the rear just follows along.

 

Thats exactly what it feels like, like the rear cant keep up with the front. you got Matts bar? I want to buy one but right now I only have $68 to spend. I might check Ebay though.

 

no, I dont have Matt's bar. Eventually I'd like to buy some stuff from him including the front tie bar Right now I'm lacking the funds to do so.

I have the Suspension Techniques RSB.

 

how much was that?

 

I bought it used, $85.
Brian, Internetautomar sells them new for $120 or $130 or something.

 

Just remember that the SE came from the factory with an RSB but it is a smaller one than the aftermarket one would be.
Personally I'd do the RSTB first because I've already got the factory sway bar.

 

all 3rd gen maximas came with an rsb didn't they.?.?.?
i have one and i own a gxe. it's a tiny bastard though.
that's why i'll be ordering a st sway bar kit off automart this spring.

 

Yeah they do all come with one, but I think my straw is bigger than a GXEs rsb.
BTW if we can get a group of buyers on the RSBs I can probably get the pricwe lowered

 

no,
my straw bar is bigger than your straw bar

everyone...order your st sway bar kits this spring so i can save money for more blehm co products

 

I've got an SE so I know mine's BIGGER

 

i want a FSB, maybe that can be included in a gd? hehehehe
oh wait, i have no money

 

Donkey!

but yes we can mix and match sway bars front and rear, possibly even different cars

 

i'll likely be ordering the kyb upper strut mounts off ya too!
also
can you get the dust boots?

 

Yup! 67890

 

are you saying that the size of the front and back are the same? And that maybe like a 95 fstb will fit on a 92 SE rear? I need to find one for about $70. Its amazing ,its crazy cheap for other cars on Ebayfor this mod.

 

both make a good difference.

after all the suspension modding i've done i feel that the best thing that ever happened to my car were the sfcs from warpspeed... those are simply amazing

 

NO! I was saying that to achieve the discount we may be able to bbuy some that are for a 4th gen or for a camaro and get the quantity pricing.

 

I havn't bought the rstb yet but i know they both make a significant difference. The difference varies in what you feel, such as body roll elimination vs cornering ability. I got my addco RSB off of a GD for 110 shipped and I recommend that if u do go for the rsb, find ways to reinforce the brackets for the rsb links. Matt is sending me the replacement links which are highly fortified so I can't wait to get this rsb back on.

 

Buy the RSTB first. Who knows how long Matt will continue to make and sell these bars. He could close up shop tomorrow and seeing that he is the only person on Earth who makes them, you would be screwed.

RSBs are a dime a dozen and easy to find. Get the rare mods first just in case the unthinkable happens and you lose your chance.

My .02 cents.

 

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[mr burns voice]EXCellENT[/mr burns voice]

 

No.. mounting points are different on each model, and based on which part you're talking about.

a FSTB won't fit on the rear. a sway bar off a 95 won't fit on a 93.. a FSB on a 3rd gen won't fit on a 4th gen, etc.

only the FSTBs are interchangeable between years. the rest are completely different designs..
you MIGHT get a 4th gen addco bar to fit or something, but you've going to have to fab custom mounts for it on both ends.
IMO, it's just not worth the hassle.


as for what I recommend on the car, buy the RSTB from me, and wait until you have money and buy the sway bar set from ST. I haven't used the addco, but for a car with factory springs (or even eibach, ST, sprint, whatever), the front sway bar makes a HUGE difference in the handling.
the rear does too, but the front is where most of the weight is on this car.. you need to do something to keep all that mass from leaning over in the corners.

 

I've got an ADDCO so mine is even BIGGER than yours.

 

Get the rsb first. You'll notice the improvements on handling immediately. After driving with it you'll wonder how u ever drove without it. Ask anybody who has one installed if I'm lying. Also it will be a lot harder for your Max. to slide around a turn. I don't know about you but sliding has become the way to drive my GXE around corners...

 

Logic dictates you should work your way up from smaller to larger modifications. This way you can better distinguish the difference each is making. When you start with the most effective, it's harder to pinpoint the change a less effective mod is causing. Also, it's more economical and effective to get a few cheaper things for all departments (power, handling, etc.) than one expensive thing for only one purpose.

 

front strut rear sway is best combo!!!!!

 

Don't forget Matt's RSB links if you get the RSB.

 

personally, I'm going with FSTB then RSTB before I even consider a RSB..but, I'll be lucky if I can get even an ebay FSTB anytime soon..I'm about to get my truck back on the road..somone made me an offer I can't refuse, and I REALLY need my truck..

 

yea i did my rsb first before my tower brace i notice a difference off the top, but to do both is the ultimate experience!!! but I have a friend that did sub-frame bars. he says that was even better for him, but he also moto crosses his max!! check for his name " poor college boy" also our year if I not mistaken doesn't make a rear tower brace? u would have to cut thru the plastic around the struts!! hmm not worth it in my opinion!!

 

Wrong.

http://www.mattblehm.com/rstb.html

 

Matt93SE makes the rstb for our car. They go under the deck lid and you will not even know its there. No cutting and you even put the little ruber cover back on the rear strut mount. Check his suspension page (link in his sig)

 

Hmm... I like the reasoning behind this. I guess that RSB is going to sit around a bit longer.


I am still impressed by the neatness of Matt's RSTB design. It's completely logical yet clean-fitting and fairly obvious when you take a look at the area between the seats. I distinctly remember one member years ago custom fabricated or adapted a RSTB on his own but he had to totally remove his rear seat to do it! To add insult to injury he said he couldn't really tell any difference...

 

hey wasup man.. i am in for a GD for the ST sway bar kit... let me know
jae

also i see that you are offering some off your discounts for OEM parts... i need some parts man.. let me know as well

jae

 

None of what I sell says "Nissan" on the box. I sell Aftermarket parts that fit and function to OE specs or better ( at least that's the sales pitch)
In some cases they are the same as the dealer parts in others not.

But I won't sell a part that I have no faith in.