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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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what are your thoughts on big brakes?

tell me who you think has the best set up for a good price.. what set up i.e. type of caliper, size, rotors.. etc and where you can find them, prices and all.. list them. thanks

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Old Feb 3, 2004 | 02:21 PM
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You'll be fine with some cross drilled or sloted rotors and some steel brake lines. No need to get anything bigger unless your boosting and don't know how to drive normally.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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most people are using the Cobra rotors with 300Z Calipers (I think). That conversion looks so hot, but unless you go really fast you won't really need it. However if you just want to go for that awesome look then the Brembo or Wilwood kit would be the best. But those cost so much money
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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yes, or you could get 2k2 rotors and calipers from a 2k2 maxima. they are light, bigger and look cooler plus then you can get Brembo rotors for a 2k2 max instead of getting Brembo rotors for a 4th gen max.
thats what I plan on doing with the rotors.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 05:29 PM
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iu know my dad's 2002 stops on a dime, it is insane. i would buy the big break kit for the looks! very intimidating when you can see them.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
yes, or you could get 2k2 rotors and calipers from a 2k2 maxima. they are light, bigger and look cooler plus then you can get Brembo rotors for a 2k2 max instead of getting Brembo rotors for a 4th gen max.
thats what I plan on doing with the rotors.
Do they bolt up directly to the torque member on a 4th gen? How about the brake lines?
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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No, matt blehm has custom brackets fabbed so that you can bolt them up however.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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If you must get cross drilled rotors make sure the holes are cast into the rotors and NOT drilled after the rotor as been made. That is of HUGE importance.
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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yes, everything just bolts up perfect
Old Feb 3, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by formz
If you must get cross drilled rotors make sure the holes are cast into the rotors and NOT drilled after the rotor as been made. That is of HUGE importance.
Can you elaborate on your statement?
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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Can you elaborate on your statement?
Yes, I'd really like to know, too.

From a strength of materials standpoint, I'd much rather have a forged rotor with drilled holes than a cast rotor with holes cast in it (I wasn't aware they did that, but I'm not a brake expert by any means).
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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I'm not a brake expert but the cheap drilled ones crack. I don't know which method is the cheap one,drilled or forged, but the crack originates are the hole and continues outward. Basically, your rotor is shot. BTW, I would assume drilled is the cheap method because forging is fu cking expensive.

Also, the stock brakes are terrible on the track. If you track race alot I would suggest a nice kit and not just rotors and lines. After two laps I had so much fade the brake pedal was to the floor in every turn. Suprised they didn't warp.
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by formz
If you must get cross drilled rotors make sure the holes are cast into the rotors and NOT drilled after the rotor as been made. That is of HUGE importance.
There is no such thing as a rotor that has holes cast into them. They are all drilled afterwards. That porsche thing is a myth. All drilling does is make the rotor more prone to failure...ie. cracking.

If your car will never see the track, then the stock brakes are fine. Just get some better than OEM rotors, like brembo blanks, and some decent street pads. Axxis MM, Porterfield R4S, Hawk HPS are some really good choices.

All a BBK does is give you good stopping power, over and over again, with little or no fade, due to better cooling. At the track this is VERY important. Stock brakes with good rotors/pads give you good stopping power, but due to the small/thin rotors will tend to fade at the track, where temps can reach 900+ deg.
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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Um.. no they are cast into the rotors. Why do you think porsche owners never complain about cracked rotors while everyone else with cross drilled ones does? Even brembo's own website mentions casting in holes.
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by formz
Um.. no they are cast into the rotors. Why do you think porsche owners never complain about cracked rotors while everyone else with cross drilled ones does? Even brembo's own website mentions casting in holes.
you are 100 % correct, they do mention something...

"Are discs with cast-in-place holes better than cross-drilled discs?
Brembo has extensively studied and tested cross-drilling versus casting the holes in place and found no significant effect on performance or durability."

My good friends' father has owned a few porsches, and has cracked his drilled rotors at the track before
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 08:42 AM
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Having sold many a cross drilled rotor... cast ones are much better. I honestly got atleast half of the people coming back *****ing at me saying they cracked em. I've had maaaybe two porsche owner say the same.
Old Feb 4, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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hey formz... I don't know if anyone ever told you this, but always site your sources.. you could have formed your opinion from www.drilledporscherotorsr00l.com for all we know.

Old Feb 4, 2004 | 08:45 AM
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I did, said brembo's website. And my source for the cracking is me selling hundreds of drilled rotors to rice boys who think it makes them look cool on the street.
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