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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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what's the fastest "All Motor"/Na Maxima

i have been reading alot of post on here over the last couple of weeks and have come to realizethat 4 gen maximas are quick. i just recently aquired a 99 SE-L 5speed and i am going to start modding it. i just ordered my Y pipe from warpspeed and a new O2 censor since CEL is on. i was wondering who has or what is the fasted NA max. 1/4 mile times and setups would be nice. i am just curious as to what helps best in the maxime performance. i guess i should also note my brother had 1999 SE 5speed which was totaled ypipe/injen/stillen rear section and suspension mods. pretty quick never made it to the track. followed by a 2003 SE 6speed pretty nice HLSD and all. anyway steups would be nice thanks
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Nealoc187 has the Fastest N/A MAx running 13's. Check the 1/4 mile forums
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Do you have any idea what his setup is ? my goal is 14.5 quater mile i am not sure how realistic or unrealist this is to attain but i intend to do most of the Na mods . anyone have an suggestions
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I'm right there with you Zack342, I'm half way thru my all motor modding: just need my ECU, Torque Converter, and Patherfinder TB, plus some extras, maybe headers, port and polish, well I'll see, good luck. L
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Start with a Y-pipe and an intake. With some good driving a 14.5 is possible. Other things you can do include:

B-pipe
Race Pipe
Muffler
Underdrive pulley
Lightweight wheels
MEVI, but with a 99 you can't increase RPM
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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How beneficial is an Underdrive Pulley at higher RPM's? I was told it's a low end mod? true or false? Sorry to whor3 up the post.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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How beneficial is an Underdrive Pulley at higher RPM's? I was told it's a low end mod? true or false? Sorry to whor3 up the post.
I have the Motostorm pulley, and I love it. You get a little more pull from the lower gears, and top end stays about the same.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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Lightened rotational parts make the biggest difference when rotational acceleration is high. It makes a sizeable difference in first gear, a little less in second, and probably not much in third on up.
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Thanks all! Seems worthwhile for those first few car lengths to pull away! Definitive Motorsports makes a good UDP correct?
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Yes they do! I bought one a while back and it is of very good build quality. I plan to sell it soon thought since I just bought a SC and don't want to underdrive my SC.
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Originally Posted by MAXimumHP
Start with a Y-pipe and an intake. With some good driving a 14.5 is possible. Other things you can do include:

B-pipe
Race Pipe
Muffler
Underdrive pulley
Lightweight wheels
MEVI, but with a 99 you can't increase RPM

I would just add that small and light wheels IMO are probably the best thing you can do out of this list. Also light/sticky tires (ideally hoosiers [r-compound] or toyo T1-s @ 21 lbs/tire in 16s if I recall correctly compared to 25 or so)

Also theres also lightweight flywheel, improved intakes...lets see... lighter rotors...um...lightweight gear oil, motor oil, weight reduction besides what was mentioned (rear seats, passenger seat, etc)
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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i dont see you having much trouble at all making it to 14.5. the upgraded ecu is going to be a BIG mod to help you achieve this. now get to work ! LOL !
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weight reduction is a big part of track racing. The more ungratuitous weight the faster the car will go.

Try this site it might help...http://lighter.maxdes.net/
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 04:52 AM
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yes, you should really consider reducing weight on your car.
LOL, if you are over weight, losing some weight will definetely improve as well.
You can also take off the spoiler, run on 15" wheels, basically strip off all the stuff that you really don't need. But that's going "extreme" with weight reduction.
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Good driving will easily get you a 14.5 with y pipe and intake. Spig ran a 14.7 with y pipe and intake I believe a whiles back.

Anyways, I don't know where you are but, if you get to run in cold weather you'll have a better chance of running lower times.

Lighter rims and wheels really make a huge difference in times, on our set up, with 16" SSR rims and Toyo T1's, it's a total wheel tire/combo of 21 pounds. Super light, makes a heck of a difference over stock rims and Kumho tires. I think we shaved like 2 tenths off just with the new tires and rims.

Practise will really help you. Not many folks can pull off 2.1 or 2.2 60' their first time at the track. Cutting a good light will help your overall ET's.

What you can do, is find a back road, or a empty parking lot where there are no cars to disturb you, and count down, 3,2,1 then take off and practise changing quickly from 1 - 2.....
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Originally Posted by Nismo_K
Good driving will easily get you a 14.5 with y pipe and intake. Spig ran a 14.7 with y pipe and intake I believe a whiles back.

Anyways, I don't know where you are but, if you get to run in cold weather you'll have a better chance of running lower times.

Lighter rims and wheels really make a huge difference in times, on our set up, with 16" SSR rims and Toyo T1's, it's a total wheel tire/combo of 21 pounds. Super light, makes a heck of a difference over stock rims and Kumho tires. I think we shaved like 2 tenths off just with the new tires and rims.

Practise will really help you. Not many folks can pull off 2.1 or 2.2 60' their first time at the track. Cutting a good light will help your overall ET's.

What you can do, is find a back road, or a empty parking lot where there are no cars to disturb you, and count down, 3,2,1 then take off and practise changing quickly from 1 - 2.....
There is no way your wheel/tire combo is 21lbs. Feel free to prove me wrong but I don't think that is possible.
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 05:55 AM
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Wow!... First time in the last 3 days someone has known what they are talking about. "when rotational acceleration is high"
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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Nealoc187 has the Fastest N/A MAx running 13's. Check the 1/4 mile forums
No sir. He had the record for awhile.



http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=297337
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 06:25 AM
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For power mods start with a Y-pipe and ECU upgrade, then the intake, then full exhaust, and last UDP.
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I like this site because it actually has the weights of tires (and rims) not to mention good prices and tires that tirerack doesnt sell...

www.edgeracing.com

Note the Toyo T1S is listed at 22 lbs...4 lbs less than my pups!
lessie- that means your car is behaving like its 4x4x8 times lighter = 108 pounds lighter! Just from the tires! aha but my tires are smaller... distance from center is maybe more important... maybe a break even... but if I go with t1s 's I will be ahead... but no matter what your car will look better than mine
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
No sir. He had the record for awhile.



http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=297337
At your track, he'd be right with you. BTW, we're talking about 4th gens. You've already done plenty of bragging in the other forums. There's no need to bring it over in here too.


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There is no way your wheel/tire combo is 21lbs. Feel free to prove me wrong but I don't think that is possible.
You're right Mike, it was a typo, it's 31 pounds. The tire is 20lb, the rim is 11lb.
I got pics of the tire and the rim on scales!
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Originally Posted by Dave B
At your track, he'd be right with you. BTW, we're talking about 4th gens. You've already done plenty of bragging in the other forums. There's no need to bring it over in here too.


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Stop being so damn bitter all the time because your car is slow and you set your expectations of it way too high. There is NOTHING special about the track I go to.

I have the right to post in any thread or forum I choose. Someone asked a question so I merely answered it.

By the way... when is the next KC meet?
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Stop being so damn bitter all the time because your car is slow and you set your expectations of it way too high. There is NOTHING special about the track I go to.

I have the right to post in any thread or forum I choose. Someone asked a question so I merely answered it.

By the way... when is the next KC meet?
Matt==><== NA 4th gens

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Matt==><== NA 4th gens

LOL


Honestly im not here to start another A32 vs. A33 war. Everyone knows the A32 is lighter and can be made quicker with equal power.
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
i dont see you having much trouble at all making it to 14.5. the upgraded ecu is going to be a BIG mod to help you achieve this. now get to work ! LOL !
My not be the fastest but ceasers my favorite. Cause his car is white like man and has all the mod's I want for mine. Espicaly that hood.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
LOL


Honestly im not here to start another A32 vs. A33 war. Everyone knows the A32 is lighter and can be made quicker with equal power.

WARNING: NOOB QUESTION TO FOLLOW-

uh, what car has the A32 and what has the A33?

tnx
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dunno how accurate this is.....

Originally Posted by SR20DEN
No sir. He had the record for awhile.



http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=297337

check it out:

http://www.myweb.cableone.net/kindre...orgtimesAM.gif

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A32 = 4th Gen
A33 = 5th Gen

Right?

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spaniard -
a32 4th gen
a33 5th gen

SR20DEN - dave b would be down in the 14.0 area if he would take that blasted 100 lbs set of tools out of the car, spare, and all kinds of other junk.. and with slicks 13's ... i know i know, what if ? just standing up for my 4th gen brothers ! you have to remember we were only given 190 hp to work with ! lol
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
i dont see you having much trouble at all making it to 14.5. the upgraded ecu is going to be a BIG mod to help you achieve this. now get to work ! LOL !


ceasar is fast...
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
spaniard -
a32 4th gen
a33 5th gen

SR20DEN - dave b would be down in the 14.0 area if he would take that blasted 100 lbs set of tools out of the car, spare, and all kinds of other junk.. and with slicks 13's ... i know i know, what if ? just standing up for my 4th gen brothers ! you have to remember we were only given 190 hp to work with ! lol

So he would shave off 4 tenths by removing 100 pounds worth of tools and other crap? It will take him more weight reduction than that to get to 14.0 from 14.4. And again Im in no way bashing the A32. I used to own one and I still admire them very much. I wouldn't mind having another one as a race only car cause I know I could make it even quicker than my A33.
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i guess i should have specified when i created this thread i meant 4th Gen. i liked the 5th gen alot but it a bit to large for me. like i said my brother had both a 1999 and 2003 SE maxima's. the 2003 was fully loaded 6speed with titanium pacakage and HLSD. But i always liked the 1999 better and that's why i got one. i was just curious to see what the fastest all motor 4th gen can do. since i plan on doing bolt ons. i regret getting the 99 SE-L i should have looked for a 95 or 96 instead. i really wish there was an ECU upgrade to help if i were to get Mevi but there isn't so i will do what i can. i have already purchased the Warpspeed Y pipe and i was going to get the injen CAI which is what my brother had on his 99 but i think i will go with Frankencar instead in fear of Hydrolock and due to the placement of the intake next to the nice hot radiator. as of now i am playing ypipe-intake-underdrive pulley- exhaust( if i can find out which does not drone). short shifter, hyperground kit and rear sway bar. these mods will be on the car by summer and for a little more long term, suspension and wheels and brake upgrades. anyway thanks for all the info.
Like i said i only wanna do 14.5 if it is faster cool if it isn't that's ok.
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thanks guys for edubecatin' me about A32 and A33...
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Stop being so damn bitter all the time because your car is slow and you set your expectations of it way too high. There is NOTHING special about the track I go to.

I have the right to post in any thread or forum I choose. Someone asked a question so I merely answered it.

By the way... when is the next KC meet?
Yep, nothing special about your track I've done my research and I'll leave it at that. As for my expectations, what are you talking about? My car has already far exceeded my expectations. 13s NA are my current goal and who cares.

You do have the right to post in any thread in here, but there's no need to come in act the All Mighty with your "NO SIR" comment. My comments have nothing to do with the fact that you own a 5th gen either.

As for the KC Maxus meet, it's not happening. I found out my wife was pregnant in mid February and I simply don't have the time to be organizing anything now.


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Originally Posted by Dave B
Yep, nothing special about your track I've done my research and I'll leave it at that. As for my expectations, what are you talking about? My car has already far exceeded my expectations. 13s NA are my current goal and who cares.

You do have the right to post in any thread in here, but there's no need to come in act the All Mighty with your "NO SIR" comment. My comments have nothing to do with the fact that you own a 5th gen either.

As for the KC Maxus meet, it's not happening. I found out my wife was pregnant in mid February and I simply don't have the time to be organizing anything now.


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Please share this so called 'research' that you claim to have done. I suppose that you will have something to say about every other track I go to and run the same E.T. and trap speed. You may as well make the same comments about MIR and Fayettville because I will be making trips to those tracks in the near future. But since it isn't my concern to please you I really don't care except for the fact that it's fun to prove you wrong. Maybe one day you will learn that most people here have little to no respect for you because you never make positive comments about what others achieve here. If anyone needs to step off a pedestal here it is you. There are few on this board who ever care to read your worthless cluttering posts. I am just the only one who is fed up enough to tell you what we're all thinking.
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If Money wasn't an issue, How likley is it to drop the VQ35 engine and 6spd tranny in the 4th gen? I know Jeff from MaxxTunning has the 6spd Tranny in his 4th gen, would that also mean our 4th gens are compatible with the VQ35 engine?
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Originally Posted by PharoNDmist
If Money wasn't an issue, How likley is it to drop the VQ35 engine and 6spd tranny in the 4th gen? I know Jeff from MaxxTunning has the 6spd Tranny in his 4th gen, would that also mean our 4th gens are compatible with the VQ35 engine?
Im the last person to know, but I gotta say that would be way too cool. Odds of it working are probably 1 in 10000000 tho.
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If Money wasn't an issue, How likley is it to drop the VQ35 engine and 6spd tranny in the 4th gen? I know Jeff from MaxxTunning has the 6spd Tranny in his 4th gen, would that also mean our 4th gens are compatible with the VQ35 engine?

I think it would be fairly easy to do and you could even do it without making too many mods to the existing wire harness. Adding the 6 speed is a little more work than you would think because you would have to use a 2k2 cable shifter assembly.
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Odds of it working are probably 1 in 10000000 tho.
I hopefully doubt that. People didn't think the tranny swap would happen until he did it then again no one really mentioned it. I just hope he will try to swap the engines for the sake of us 4thgens, That would be insane to have that much natural power without mods in our light 4th gen bodies



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