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Does anyone know for sure what the difference between 1999 and rest of 4th gen kit?

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Old Jul 2, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Does anyone know for sure what the difference between 1999 and rest of 4th gen kit?

Anyone? Someone with a 1999 SC kit, please let me know. Are these the additional parts needed to fit a 1995-1998 kit to a 1999-2000?

Additional only for 1999-2000 model
see 407100 Power steering oil cooler-Stillen (1999 models)
part of Adel clamps SG-6 (1999 models) 407100-04
BOM M6x1.0x10mm Flange bolt (1999 models) 407100-03
P/N M6x1.0 Nylon locking nut (1999 models) 402993
407100 Back strap 18" long (1999 models) 407100-02
407100-01 u-bend pwr steering cooler
Old Jul 2, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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from what I understand its the mounting bracket thats different
Old Jul 3, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Redmax
from what I understand its the mounting bracket thats different

The mounting bracket is different? okay. Smack the goofball that told you that **** because it is not. Same ****. Look at the below link. I installed a 5th gen kit in my 95 maxima. Hell I even bolted up the plate to a spare motor and thats how I got the idea that it fits. cliky on the link below for more info.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=283181


the difference in the kit IMO is the Air Ambient temp sensor on the 90 Degree elbow. That can be modified to fit. Piping is the same from 95-99. That power steering thing, thats some easy crap. You have two choices, 1. you can buy a brake line and about 9 ft of 3/8 high pressure hosing. Bend the brake line in half like a U. Connect the power steering hoses to each end and that will fix that issue. 2. Once again buy about 9 ft of 3/8 high pressure hosing and get a small cooler and now you will have a power steering cooler. Simple solution. Thats what I have.

Piping is not a direct fit from a 5th gen kit. You can make it fit but your going to have to cut the piping to align it to the throttle body. Or you can buy the cross over pipe and custom make you another using a 3 inch 90 degree bend. Custom piping will be a cheaper route.
Old Jul 5, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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Jay...so if I pick up a 95-98 SC kit, to make it fit on my 1999 the only really issue is the location of the air amb. temp sensor. The piping is exactly the same right?
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 07:12 AM
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I often wonder where the whole bracket differences started from. Here is another really old thread about this. In the last post (page 2) the guy claims a pre-99 kit will not fit due to the timing chain case being different. I tried to confirm this once with my Dads 97 and my 99, but could tell no difference, but the 99's do have different timing cases for some reason.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=167927
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Originally Posted by 1MAX2NV
Jay...so if I pick up a 95-98 SC kit, to make it fit on my 1999 the only really issue is the location of the air amb. temp sensor. The piping is exactly the same right?

That thread is useless. I bolted up a 2k1 kit on my 95. All I did was order a new crossover from stillen and bought a 3 inch 90 degree mandrel bend and welded two small pipes for the vacuum. The 95-98 kit will fit. The ambiet air temp sensor for 95-96s have two little screws. From 97 and up it is a rubber grommet and a needle type looking sensor pushed in. You just have to put it in there and secure it. You can use some silicone or get creative with the screws it comes with and thats about it.


Why would nissan make a different VQ30 with a different timing case? its pointless. Whats is different about 99's? emissions? thats about the only thing I see different with them. What is the SCer kit contain, plate bolted to the motor, oil return plate, belt adjuster plate, the cross overs and vacuum, rerouting the power steering lines, tilt the CP Sensor to the side, slide the fuse box back and the fuel pump. Thats it.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 06:05 PM
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The question is not if post 98 kits fit earlier models, but the other way around. Sounds like from the thread I linked to that pre-99 kits will not clear the case properly on 99+ cars. Believe me, I'm not saying it's true, just posting what I read, and we all know you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Also if you look at car-part.com and look up 99 front cases, only 99's come up. If you look up 97 for example, 95-98's show up as interchangeable. I have no idea why they changed some things, but they did. There are even different brake reservoir caps for 99's. Nissan must have been smoking crack when they designed the 99's I guess.
Old Jul 6, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by MAXimumHP
The question is not if post 98 kits fit earlier models, but the other way around. Sounds like from the thread I linked to that pre-99 kits will not clear the case properly on 99+ cars. Believe me, I'm not saying it's true, just posting what I read, and we all know you can't believe everything you read on the internet. Also if you look at car-part.com and look up 99 front cases, only 99's come up. If you look up 97 for example, 95-98's show up as interchangeable. I have no idea why they changed some things, but they did. There are even different brake reservoir caps for 99's. Nissan must have been smoking crack when they designed the 99's I guess.

Do you happen to have a picture of a 99 engine bay? I looked at one before, I did not see any difference the only difference pointed out to me by the owner was that it had some emissions crap on it that he hated. Thats about it. Maybe someone can call stillen and ask what is the difference between earler 98 kit vs a 99 kit?

I just searched carpart for engine for a 99 it says VQ30DE exc. Cali or VQ30DE cali. The 99 VQ30 exc. any year VQ engine bolts right up. The 99 its strictly cali emission spec. The plate should line up right up to it. I am about to break out out of the US, other then that if anyone wanted to volunteer their ride, Id be willing to bolt that sucker up.
Old Jul 7, 2004 | 08:44 AM
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Honestly, I'm not a big believer in the plate being different either, just pointing out the cases are different. It would be really nice to put this whole thing to a rest. I've compared my 99's engine to my Dad's 97 (used to be mine) and I can't tell any difference between the two. Mine is a fed spec, so I don't know if that matters or not??? I think it's mostly emissions changes as you said, no idea why they would change the front timing case (rears are the same I believe).
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