who would win in 1/4 mile?

2001 maxima-sillen supercharger...stock everything else...stock boost

vs.2003 acura rsx type s w/ jackson racing supercharger not sure of whp
vs.2003 honda civic si w/ cybernation stage 1 turbo kit whp-300+ at 10psi
vs.1989 crx with b18 swap not sure what whp
vs.199* del sol w/ b18 swap not sure what whp

thanks...

 

This is a really open ended question that no one on this board is going to be able to answer accurately with any sort of certainty. Not to mention differences in driving skill can more than make up for lack of or excess power.

How much boost for the boosted opponents, and what B18 for the swapped opponents. There are a number of engines which carry the B18 designation, which one do you mean? B18A, B18B, B18C1, B18C5, etc.

 

im preety sure you would kill allofem

 

well i dont know how much power the max. with the stillen s/c on it makes...about how much would it make...im looking into the stillen s/c. its acura boosted to 8 psi...the si boosted to 10 psi(which i found makes an astonishing 300-350 whp at 10 psi)...and b18a in both cars

thanks...

 

Given these criteria, the SI pushing 10psi would demolish everything else in your list assuming the driver is not retarded. "Stock" boost for a stillen SC'd maxima is 6-6.5psi or so. The B18A is only a 130hp motor, so in the CRX you'd only be gaining about 20hp over stock which would be stupid to swap in, and the Del Sol can be had with a B16A3 stock which makes 160hp, so putting in a motor making 30 less hp would not be the most brilliant swap ever.

I think you are really comparing apples to oranges here. If you want to know the reasonable potential of the cars in question you shouldn't limit the engine swapped cars to a useless engine (the B18A is an old old engine available in the 90-93 integra) and no one buys a stillen SC for a maxima and keeps everything else stock (ypipe, exhaust, etc, you'd be robbing yourself of probably 30-40hp by doing that). Hope this helps at least somewhat.

 

Oh and to answer your question as best I can about what would a totally STOCK 2000 max with JUST a 3.6" pulley SC bolted on, probably like 230-240whp would be my estimate. Keep in mind that is just an estimate because I don't think anyone has, or would in their right mind, just slap on a supercharger without any supporting mods (ypipe, exhaust, etc.)

 

thanks...it does help.

well i dont really know of the b18xx...its the stock gsr motor...lol...sorry...

the max with the stillen s/c is just stock pully...i plan on a full exhaust...y-pipe..catback...and headers...but im not even sure of what im raelly gonna get. what would the outcome be if i did full exhaust?

im new to this maxima stuff...thanks for ur help

thanks...

 

Oh ok, a GSR motor makes more sense The GSR motor is the B18C1, and makes 170hp and 128ft-lb of tq, which is a much better choice than an old B18A.

With a Y-pipe and exhaust you could expect another 20-30hp, but why stop there, little smaller pulley for a little more boost is extremely easy, good for another 30hp or so, etc.

It's up to you, but I think first you should decide what sort of category of car you want first. Do you want a larger, relatively powerful, more comfort oriented car (maxima with supercharger) or do you want a small rocket car stripped to the metal and pretty fast, but pretty uncomfortable too (CRX or del sol with a GSR motor) or do you want something really fast like a 350whp turbo civic like you described. I have my reservations as to how long a 350whp stock motored SI would stay running, whereas a maxima making the same power isn't even close to pushing the limits and you could run it that way for years and not have the motor blink an eyelash.

 

well...ive naworwed it down to the civic or the maxima...money is the next issue...how much do maximas run? with the supercharger...and without. im not too sure about the price of an 03 si with a turbo would be and how it would compare...ill figure it out and keep u posted...u might have an new maxima owner.

thanks..

 

Well I'm of course biased (but not as biased as many on this board) but there's a reason I went FROM a couple modded civics TO a modded maxima and not the other way around I don't really know how much either of them run I guess that's a question for www.autotrader.com I've never really looked at the prices of those model years.

 

Neal your knowledge of rice impresses me. Maybe it's because you drove a radioactive Civic

 

hey this is an interesting topic, i just got a 97 max auto but im thinking of going for a 93 civic hatch so i can do an ls/vtec swap, im 18 and the maxima looks like its my father's car and i like the way it looks stock i dont want to riced it out but i want a cheap and easy project on the side im thinking of a 240sx or a 92 and up hatch to do a b18 swap, i just want something light and stick that i can burn rubber till it breaks and no care about....any suggestions...

 

My friend wants a project car and was going to get a 91 civic hatch and drop a gsr motor in it along with bolt ons. But he decided to go awd and is getting a 92 talon.

I've seen so many civic hatch with gsr motors running low 14s/high 13s with bolt ons. Not surprising for such a light car.
-Paul

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96 SE 5speed i/y
2.28
14.762
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so in a 92 and up civic hatch and a gsr motor + i/h/e i could get 1/4 time of 13 or 14??cause that its decent for the money that u will spend, i dont know to much about hondas but an ls engine with a vtec head would it perfor as well or worst than a gsr engine..

 

Holy ****, Nealoc, what thorough answers!

My answer: race 'em and find out.

 

An LS/VTEC (with B16A head which is what is typically used) will make more power than a GSR motor will. An LS block has more displacement than a GSR block (even though they are both considered 1.8L, the GSR block is 1797cc and the LS is 1834cc), but the main reason it makes more power is that the B16A head flows better than a GSR head does.

 

Just be safe and get nos, 3 bottles man oh and live your life one quarter mile at a time too :P Hehehe if you're that curious go race them, what do you have to lose? Well besides your life, your car, and probably your dignity, but hey it's all in good fun

 

I tell you what the faces on all those cars on the list when a four door family sedan passes them is worht it all. If you are down between a civic and a max, you have to look at what the car is going to be used for. Daily driver, just drag.... And the uniqueness of having a boosted maxima. In some parking lots that i have pulled up in where people are hangin out and talkin trash they have all heard in some way or another of either my brother's car or mine and won't race for anything. I mean there is some cars that would tear us apart but usually they don't race. I even came up next to a C5 vette the other day and they guy had heard of me, and still wouldn't run me.
In the end it is all in what you want. It is obvious that are motors are monsters for power and it has alll the comforts to go with it.

 

and i ment faces on the drivers of the cars onthe list

 

well the only boosted civc i know of that i would replicate is in texas...

and the other cars are just ideas...i dont know any one with these actual cars

thanks...

 

Lately I've been daydreaming about the idea of a 97-97 240sx w/ sr20det swap. This by no means means I will be doing this i just got my license! But it seems like a sweet way to go, relatively cheap RWD NISSAN car that looks nice, and a common nice swap. I would suggest this swap or atleast put it on your list.

 

First of all since most of my freinds drive hondas and swap there crap *** motor they always get stuck in 14's, it is so hard for them to break out of it. There off the line torque is horrbile, This is what proves what im saying, What does a GSR run stock, they are only about 300 pounds or less lighter then a crx, B18 motors are not ment for anything except na, boost is stupid cause of the way the motor is built. Thats why whenever someone turbos a civic or a gsr i laugh at them, the only honda motor good for supercharching or turboing is a h22a, now thats a dope Motor

 

although i do know a guy that has a b16a civic with 380ish whp, with built up internals of course. But you put half of the money that he put into his civic into a max, it would be a monster

 

hot damn...380ish....

 

ya, there is a video of him on honda-tech.com racinf a dodge viper on the highway, and beating it...

 

Oh I wanna see this vid got a link? LOL a civic once kept up with me on the highway at 120mph, until of course I hit 135mph it was pretty fun :P

 

k20 rsx/tegJDM type r motor y0, 220hp!

but $$$

speaking of this, how much power and cost wise for a 140hp LS engine with vtec? b16a head?

 

the DC5R motor only has 210 fhp...
the EP3R motor has the 220 that ur talking about...its a different intake manifold...

ive been reading up a lot about these things...lol

thanks...