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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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VG Auto what time will I run you think?

what time do you think I will run with this setup

92 gxe maxima
auto tranny
vg30e
Mass airflow sensor off an SE
new TB
ngk plugs
new wires
new distributor and button
full short ram intake, not just the filter
3 a racing exaust,
new b pipe
timing increase
leightweight rims and super sticky drag radial tires
122k miles
i bought the car recently at 116k miles i think the motor has been rebuilt because it runs stronger then any vg ive seen.
No huge sub woofer or anything, just a cd player and mids, leather interiour, so no extra heavy stuff.

what time do you think I will run with this setup
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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LIGHT weight rims? super sticky drag? do you honestly think you'll have traction problems?

Mass airflow sensor off an SE??? it's the same MAF.

i guess 16's (total guess)
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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I'll bite,

16.2 - 16.5 if you are a good driver and lucky.

What do the rest of you guys think??

After running a 15.9 with the mods I had on my VG, I don't think you break 16.2.

No Y, No ECU, gonna need a little more then what you have to break 16.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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no y-pipe...I say 16.5 or worse

Dans right, why are you wasting your time with drag radials on a virtually stock VG auto...you'll probably break something before you run anything less than a 16.--
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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also i drive it like a manual shifting from 1st- 2nd-drive, so that makes a difference, yes im a good driver and i shift very good.
anyone think i can run a 15.9
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by coreyblade
also i drive it like a manual shifting from 1st- 2nd-drive, so that makes a difference, yes im a good driver and i shift very good.
anyone think i can run a 15.9
manual shifting does nothing...YOU DRIVE AN AUTOMATIC!!! doing that plus running DRs is probably doing more damage to the already weak VG tranny...you'll probably only run 15.9s with a rocket powered semi pushing you down the track...cold hard facts is the VG auto is slow, sorry for being hard but we all have to realize that..I've been there myself
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by coreyblade
also i drive it like a manual shifting from 1st- 2nd-drive, so that makes a difference, yes im a good driver and i shift very good.
anyone think i can run a 15.9
"i shift very good"?!?!?!

auto = AUTOMATIC transmission
your **** dyno need calibration.

15.9? if the track goes downhill...maybe...depends on wind.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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i dont run the DR all the time, normaly i have stock rims with 60 series tires. but the drag radials are just for the track btw. So yeh....... Tranny is in good condtion no slips. motor runs very strong. its not slow at all. I mean damn ive killd all the ricers in macon with there ****ty imports, b18's b16's, all the ****ty cavilers and old eclipses. god the list goes on.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by coreyblade
i dont run the DR all the time, normaly i have stock rims with 60 series tires. but the drag radials are just for the track btw. So yeh....... Tranny is in good condtion no slips. motor runs very strong. its not slow at all. I mean damn ive killd all the ricers in macon with there ****ty imports, b18's b16's, all the ****ty cavilers and old eclipses. god the list goes on.

what else?...did you beat that geo metro?
how about that yugo GV?

eclipse...next time pull up to a GSX or a GS-T and ask the driver to run...
stop running after the RS's.

racing an underdog is not a race.

really how many stickers are you rocking on your car now?
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:21 PM
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anything less than a 16.5 and i will be impressed
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DA-MAX
...cold hard facts is the VG auto is slow, sorry for being hard but we all have to realize that..I've been there myself
maybe your auto VG is slow.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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When you start the 1/4 = daytime
When you end the 1/4 = bedtime
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:27 PM
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You can break 16s if you wire the VTC soleniods open.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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VG auto = slow. get over it. mid 16s.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:32 PM
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Thank you all for letting this guy know the facts.

He was trying to convince me that he was going to run a sub 16 with his car. I didn't want to be a ****, but I had my VG for a few years and know what it took for me to run a 15.9, and he doesn't have it.

I knew I could depend on you 3rd Gen guys. I really do miss spending all my time at work on here.....
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You can break 16s if you wire the VTC soleniods open.
I forgot all about the VTC's in my VG
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
I forgot all about the VTC's in my VG
Don't forget about your timing chains.....
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 03:02 PM
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Don't forget about your timing chains.....
I just had my timing chain sand blasted and polished. Looks nice when looking into my engine bay.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coreyblade
Mass airflow sensor off an SE
Is there even a diff btwn the SE / GXE MAFs?
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:22 PM
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no y-pipe nothing lower than a 16.5 depending on conditions. DR's...c'mon...you're driving a 16 second car. it's sloooooooooooooooooow.

my quickest w/ I/Y/E/ECU and stripped interior and a few other "free tweaks" was a 15.9. i beat the p*ss out of the car in the process.

i've come to the realization that unless you're running boost etc? dragging the VG is pointless.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by NYC 92 GXEr
Is there even a diff btwn the SE / GXE MAFs?
No, there isn't
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 06:42 PM
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I will trade you a spare "SE MAF" for your "super sticky drag radials."

Oh, and I think Anton ran in the low 16s with his VG 5-speed. I don't remember his mods except a Piggie Racing CAI and no muffler. Maybe there is hope for you in the form of a 5-speed swap.

Oh, and I doubt you are "killing" b18 Civics with your AT VG Maxima. Even a b18b Civic will run in the mid 15s. A b18c Civic will usually run in the 14s. Crap, even b16a has 160 hp (flywheel), which is what you have. In a car that is nearly 1000 lbs less than yours. I think you have a shot I can't "kill" Civics with b18c engine swaps and I have a VE 5-speed with a bunch of mods.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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umm low 9"s


Just kidding. With the mods you have you may have gained 5whp if that so you will be right around stock times if you are a good driver. Maybe .2 lower if you can drive.If you realy want to help your time do the manual swap, That will give you a half a second.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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I've always been confused on how switching to a 5-speed makes your car faster ...
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DanNY
maybe your auto VG is slow.
it was VERY slow...I have the slips to prove it sucka
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by DanNY
maybe your auto VG is slow.

Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jadegreenmax
I've always been confused on how switching to a 5-speed makes your car faster ...
What is there to be confused about? Try lifting a manual tranny, then lifting an auto tranny. There has to be about 40-60 lbs difference not including a the Torque Convertor. Then you start talking about gearing, which honestly, a 5-speed is gearing is much better, and uses the motor power much better.

Honestly...fastest VG auto I've seen is nismo87se. 16.3..and his car is a 2nd gen. I've yet to see one faster (and thier might be). In a 3rd gen...a car characteristically bigger and heavier, your probably not going to top that with the mods you have. 15.9 is not going to happen unless your grandma got out and pushed. The VG is a good motor....but it isn't that good without work...which your car doesn't have a whole lot of.

The last thing....many will disagree with this.....but any self proclaimed "good driver" that has no history/experience to back it up is usually an average driver....or worst.

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Honestly...fastest VG auto I've seen is nismo87se. 16.3..and his car is a 2nd gen. I've yet to see one faster (and thier might be). In a 3rd gen...a car characteristically bigger and heavier, your probably not going to top that with the mods you have. 15.9 is not going to happen unless your grandma got out and pushed. The VG is a good motor....but it isn't that good without work...which your car doesn't have a whole lot of.
two people in this thread have run 15.9's including myself and others have posted slips 16.1-16.2. no one said it's impossible. it takes more then a CAI and a muffler to do so...
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris91SE
no y-pipe nothing lower than a 16.5 depending on conditions. DR's...c'mon...you're driving a 16 second car. it's sloooooooooooooooooow.

i've come to the realization that unless you're running boost etc? dragging the VG is pointless.

there's 2 things wrong with this post.

I have a stock y-pipe. Just a "piggy" intake and no muffler ( i have one now ). *maybe* some advanced timing... but thats it.

What did I run? a 16.2... If my math is correct, thats faster than a 16.5

Also, dragging a VG (or other equally slow or slower cars) is not pointless. bracket race much? it's not speed there, but consistency that wins. Considering that 4 out of my 5 runs were all within .02 seconds from my 16.450 dial-in, I don't think it's very pointless.

Originally Posted by Chris91SE
two people in this thread have run 15.9's including myself and others have posted slips 16.1-16.2. no one said it's impossible. it takes more then a CAI and a muffler to do so...
no... it doesn't. just a good driver to get 16.1-16.2.


Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
Oh, and I think Anton ran in the low 16s with his VG 5-speed. I don't remember his mods except a Piggie Racing CAI and no muffler. Maybe there is hope for you in the form of a 5-speed swap.
I shall show him the LIGHT!!!



edit to answer the main question: I've only seen VG autos do low 17s.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris91SE
two people in this thread have run 15.9's including myself and others have posted slips 16.1-16.2. no one said it's impossible. it takes more then a CAI and a muffler to do so...
I stand corrected. But I totally agree that it takes more than what he has posted to make his car run that. I didn't intend to pass off that it was impossible.

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Old Oct 26, 2004 | 09:31 PM
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I have to give Anton a lot of credit and agree with him on the racing stuff. The local races for trophies for imports are all bracket racing.

Anton is a hella good bracket racer. My car may be 1 second faster than his, but he made me look foolish in our NWMaxima Import Challenge. I couldn't keep my car within .1 of my dial-in and he can keep his within .02. I ran the fastest time of any n/a Maxima there, but I think I was last in the standings because I wasn't consistent.

I was not really belittling the VG engine because it is a solid performer. However, unless you are mtcookson, you should not be thinking much about beating other imports in the quarter mile, especially if your VG is an AT.
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by antonthegrey
there's 2 things wrong with this post.

I have a stock y-pipe. Just a "piggy" intake and no muffler ( i have one now ). *maybe* some advanced timing... but thats it.

What did I run? a 16.2... If my math is correct, thats faster than a 16.5

Also, dragging a VG (or other equally slow or slower cars) is not pointless. bracket race much? it's not speed there, but consistency that wins. Considering that 4 out of my 5 runs were all within .02 seconds from my 16.450 dial-in, I don't think it's very pointless.



no... it doesn't. just a good driver to get 16.1-16.2.




I shall show him the LIGHT!!!



edit to answer the main question: I've only seen VG autos do low 17s.
sure ive heard of bracket racing but

whats the fun of it if your runing a car that runs 16's

even if you beat a 13 second car on consistacy the 13 second car would get way more attention and respec
Old Oct 26, 2004 | 10:51 PM
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use the over drive button. . .
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 03:10 AM
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I predict a 17 flat. You do realize that your average mini-van would crush a VG auto? Or SUV for that matter. We are pathetically slow. I have gotten beat by Chevy Blazers, DOHC Saturns, and Honda minivans. They sad part is that I don't thing they were racing. I was just trying to pass them and couldn't.
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Red92MaxSE
I have to give Anton a lot of credit and agree with him on the racing stuff. The local races for trophies for imports are all bracket racing.

Anton is a hella good bracket racer. My car may be 1 second faster than his, but he made me look foolish in our NWMaxima Import Challenge. I couldn't keep my car within .1 of my dial-in and he can keep his within .02. I ran the fastest time of any n/a Maxima there, but I think I was last in the standings because I wasn't consistent.

I was not really belittling the VG engine because it is a solid performer. However, unless you are mtcookson, you should not be thinking much about beating other imports in the quarter mile, especially if your VG is an AT.
slower cars make for more consistant bracket racers
Old Oct 27, 2004 | 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by antonthegrey
there's 2 things wrong with this post.

I have a stock y-pipe. Just a "piggy" intake and no muffler ( i have one now ). *maybe* some advanced timing... but thats it.

What did I run? a 16.2... If my math is correct, thats faster than a 16.5
there have been some out there to run great times with little mods....i'd never dispute that but they are few and far between. run through all of the 1/4 mile posts and you'll see VG autos NOT running low 16's consistently

Also, dragging a VG (or other equally slow or slower cars) is not pointless. bracket race much? it's not speed there, but consistency that wins. Considering that 4 out of my 5 runs were all within .02 seconds from my 16.450 dial-in, I don't think it's very pointless.
bracket race? yes please. i used to do it ALL the time. most people on here aren't modifying or going to the track to bracket race. most people are coming on here..."how can i make my car fast" how fast is my car. does that sound like bracket racing to you?


no... it doesn't. just a good driver to get 16.1-16.2.
again...automatic. it's all about the launch and getting good 60' s. after that the rest is easy




I shall show him the LIGHT!!!



edit to answer the main question: I've only seen VG autos do low 17s.
are u a 5spd? if so then your points are moot for this thread
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