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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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226tq NA with 3.5

Well today I dynoed my girls 97 max with a 3.5/3.0 heads cams, headers, 00VI wired completely open.

226hp/205.4tq
Old Dec 4, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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nice numbers but graph would be excellent. Are these numbers on a dynojet?
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Old Dec 4, 2004 | 01:07 PM
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Little hard to see but i am going to assume the top is the HP and middle it TQ. Th Hp looks wonder as it peaks out at redline and that has to be the FLATTESt TQ curve i have ever seen in my life.
good job man you built an excellent motor.
Old Dec 4, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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BTW thats was with NO ECU upgrade so 6400rpm. tops HP/bottoms TQ
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well 2k2 full swap coming in the next week, but run off 4th gen ecu
Old Dec 4, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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We'll see the difference that the lack of VTC makes...
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We will see very very soon
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Did you get the SAE numbers?

Any way you can email that picture to me, so I can read it better?

Try and get the files on disk, since they're alot easier to read/compare.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Did you get the SAE numbers?

Any way you can email that picture to me, so I can read it better?

Try and get the files on disk, since they're alot easier to read/compare.
Not sae #s

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It's in a PM from the other day.
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man that torque curve us so flat, looks like viper dyno. It probally stays flat because you had the intake manifold completely open the whole time. It looks like with a higher rev limiter, you would keep making power.
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I had a ecu on it earlier this week but had to give it back and it pulled like he!! too 7300
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wow..im not impressed
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Originally Posted by JIC_A33
wow..im not impressed
Well if you not impressed then dont post!! Considering im using 3.0 heads thats a draw back. And considering the highest all motor max dyno is like 250whp with a full 3.5 i think its decent, especially with my baby 55mm TB
Old Dec 5, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TILLEYS99
Well today I dynoed my girls 97 max with a 3.5/3.0 heads cams, headers, 00VI wired completely open.

226hp/205.4tq
Great numbers, your car makes more power on the dyno then most 02-03 maxima's I've seen. And if they make more then you, it's usually because of headers and a TS ecu upgrade along with the rest of the bread & butter mods.

PS Your using 3.5 upper engine parts right, and how much did it run you??? I thinking about doing the samething to 2k max. That and some JWT cams.
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It dont cost me much, just price off parts, I have my own business.
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Tilley,

Did you get any 3rd gear pulls by chance?
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Tilley,

Did you get any 3rd gear pulls by chance?
No just 4th
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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dude,that torque curve looks like what happens to a torque curve on a honda after vtec. That torque curve stays flat and 9000+ it keeps making power with a flat torque curve. If you had a higher rev limit, I bet you would make a whole lot more power.
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Originally Posted by JIC_A33
wow..im not impressed
What did your's dyno?
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Says in his profile or should I say 02 SE/92 SE-R 02 SE's profile:
"02 6spd, every opt but Nav. JICs, FC intake, cattman Y-pipe, RSB, FSTB and Toyo 4s 217.9 WHP 227.6 TQ"






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What did your's dyno?
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Says in his profile or should I say 02 SE/92 SE-R 02 SE's profile:
"02 6spd, every opt but Nav. JICs, FC intake, cattman Y-pipe, RSB, FSTB and Toyo 4s 217.9 WHP 227.6 TQ"


I wasn't trying to flame, just asking to see a comparison
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He's been banned twice already..make it three now.
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Well the motor is gone now and new trans and motor are in progress!
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He's been banned twice already..make it three now.
I wasn't trying to get him banned.......
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His being banned before for WHATEVER reasons by two different moderators is why he's got banned.

Next, is IP ban if Sprite gets bored.
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with having a small TB and having no ecu,that dyno is great . He made peak HP at fuel cut imagine better TB and a ecu going to 7500rpm . I say 245whp @6900rpm.
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I say screw the VQ30 or VQ35 intake manifolds and make a simple single chamber short runner one like the UNIVERSAL ones these guys sell. Yes, some torque will be lost, but with the VQ35 bottom end or boost, that's not a problem.

http://www.rossmachineracing.com/
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I say screw the VQ30 or VQ35 intake manifolds and make a simple single chamber short runner one like the UNIVERSAL ones these guys sell. Yes, some torque will be lost, but with the VQ35 bottom end or boost, that's not a problem.

http://www.rossmachineracing.com/
this is a great find i can have this made very easy,never thought of this. I have a idea on how i want mine done.
Ice do they sell the round tubes also?
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I've always wondered why someone doesn't just go for the full on log/short runner setup. Seems this would be much more benificial for boosted cars but still. Without the curves of the UIM there are gains to be had right there. All you need is vacum for FPR right? None of that EGR BS. Just IACV and one vacum nipple. Question is, what happens to midrange with this type? Hey, if gains are minimal at least changing plugs would become even easier.
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I didn't see round, if they do, however square and semi-circle.

I think you'd want the flat surface to weld too. Besides the TB mount, all you'd need to add is those venturi pieces to some kind of plate that mounts to the LIM, right?

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this is a great find i can have this made very easy,never thought of this. I have a idea on how i want mine done.
Ice do they sell the round tubes also?
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Originally Posted by Broaner
I've always wondered why someone doesn't just go for the full on log/short runner setup. Seems this would be much more benificial for boosted cars but still. Without the curves of the UIM there are gains to be had right there. All you need is vacum for FPR right? None of that EGR BS. Just IACV and one vacum nipple. Question is, what happens to midrange with this type? Hey, if gains are minimal at least changing plugs would become even easier.
Nipple at rear for brakes ,nipple for FPR which is in my 00 vi adapter block .IACV I would do the same way as my 00 vi worked out (adapter block). But the only thing would be PCV you would have to dump it into the IM you could use oil seperaters to clean it.
I could make this easy but i know nothing about flow or anything to do with making a good IM. But i may try anyways prob not till i start working at the machine shop again. I would use the lower IM that comes stock,and weld my setup to the top of that with port matched plenums.
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Or IMHO...a perfect DPI N20 setup.

Originally Posted by Broaner
I've always wondered why someone doesn't just go for the full on log/short runner setup. Seems this would be much more benificial for boosted cars but still. Without the curves of the UIM there are gains to be had right there. All you need is vacum for FPR right? None of that EGR BS. Just IACV and one vacum nipple. Question is, what happens to midrange with this type? Hey, if gains are minimal at least changing plugs would become even easier.
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I didn't see round, if they do, however square and semi-circle.

I think you'd want the flat surface to weld too. Besides the TB mount, all you'd need to add is those venturi pieces to some kind of plate that mounts to the LIM, right?
Ok if you click your link in the upper left you see a half round with round tubes welded together is that the ventuari pieces? If so i wonder what the lower inside diameter is because they would have to weld to the lower IM.
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Not sure, but I think they're calling them "velocity stacks" and selling them for $39/each.

Anyways, I guess you could make it one piece by welding it to the LIM, but why not just weld the venturis to a flange that bolts to the LIM instead?
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Or you could do like this VQ30 equipped 350Z:
http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/july03/goughary/


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Hey Chris, notice the VQ35 valve covers with VQ30 timing chain cover?
Old Dec 8, 2004 | 09:14 PM
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Very nice but i wouldnt want that for the street
Maybe a flange could be done ,i always do what easier though.

Looks like others have done hybrid vq's and those valvecovers are the plastic fix i need (dont tell dave b they may warp from the heat ) Also ive held those at tilleys shop they are so much lighter
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that motor look just like the one layin here in my garage minus the IM



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