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Old Apr 22, 2001 | 12:21 AM
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Went 4 bubble tea with a buddy of mine ... we've never yet had the opportunity 2 race ... so ... 2nite ... boy .. was it ever a walk in the park ... we raced 3 times ...

first time I gunned it b/c I had no idea how he'd do with the CAI (which sounds awesome btw!!!!!) I jumped ahead & started with about 4 bumper lead ... only drove 2 80 km/h cuz I knew I had him

did it again but this time I gave him a split second advantage ... just 2 let him get going ... np again

3rd time ... it was a rolling start & I was in 2nd ... he had me by about 4 bumper lengths ... ezily caught up ... I thought these were fast? it was brutal how slow he was ...
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 10:25 AM
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so how would a auto max do?? cali spec.
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 11:13 AM
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Those Celica are piece of s***
they are slow

They only have 1.8 liter engine and 180hp, not a big deal

My friend beat one with a 94 Chrysler LHS
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 11:31 AM
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they aint that slow, they got nice top end, if u run 1/4 with them, they pull like hell on top end.. or i might be rememberin the wrong car..
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 12:04 PM
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I've never heard a Celica being called a piece of dung....(until now)

My 91 GTS wasnt the fastest set of wheels...hell it only put out 130 hp.....but it was the most reliable set of wheels I've ever owned (like most Toyota products)

That body style from 90-92 looks a heck of a lot better than the new Inspector Gadget looking thing now I loved that car...might have taken a bit to get to 60 but didnt feel slow and I had no problem hitting 100 if for some reason in my youth I felt like it.

Ive already visted the Nissan dealer for problems more times in less than a year with this car than I did in almost 10 years with my Toyota. I'd still be driving that thing if I didnt get it crunched a few summers ago. It was fixed but when I looked at the undercarrige on a lift I decided it was time for a replacement.

Celica....maybe slower than the Max..(btw how friggin fast do you need to go 0-60?????) but a piece of crap? Little off base but to each his own I guess.

Get a rice bike if you want to go 0-60 in 4 seconds...jeesh
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by jnm2kse
I've never heard a Celica being called a piece of dung....(until now)

My 91 GTS wasnt the fastest set of wheels...hell it only put out 130 hp.....but it was the most reliable set of wheels I've ever owned (like most Toyota products)

That body style from 90-92 looks a heck of a lot better than the new Inspector Gadget looking thing now I loved that car...might have taken a bit to get to 60 but didnt feel slow and I had no problem hitting 100 if for some reason in my youth I felt like it.

Ive already visted the Nissan dealer for problems more times in less than a year with this car than I did in almost 10 years with my Toyota. I'd still be driving that thing if I didnt get it crunched a few summers ago. It was fixed but when I looked at the undercarrige on a lift I decided it was time for a replacement.

Celica....maybe slower than the Max..(btw how friggin fast do you need to go 0-60?????) but a piece of crap? Little off base but to each his own I guess.

Get a rice bike if you want to go 0-60 in 4 seconds...jeesh
exactly...
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 12:53 PM
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I saw one run in the low 15's at the track this past Friday. My neighbor has one, he's getting bored with it all ready. You have to really wind it up to get any power. If you don't it's like driving a Corolla. The HP is high, but the torque is very low at 130 ft. lbs. The shifter is very unToyota-like... not as smooth as their other shifters. I do like the styling on it though.
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
I saw one run in the low 15's at the track this past Friday. My neighbor has one, he's getting bored with it all ready. You have to really wind it up to get any power. If you don't it's like driving a Corolla. The HP is high, but the torque is very low at 130 ft. lbs. The shifter is very unToyota-like... not as smooth as their other shifters. I do like the styling on it though.
130? dang they must have tweeked the hp up losing tq.. or am i wrong..
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 01:15 PM
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GT-S
Horsepower: 180 hp @ 7600 rpm
Torque: 130 ft-lbs. @ 6800 rpm

GT
Horsepower: 140 hp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 125 ft-lbs. @ 4200 rpm

An automatic on a small 4 is awful.

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130? dang they must have tweeked the hp up losing tq.. or am i wrong..
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 01:25 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
GT-S
Horsepower: 180 hp @ 7600 rpm
Torque: 130 ft-lbs. @ 6800 rpm

GT
Horsepower: 140 hp @ 6400 rpm
Torque: 125 ft-lbs. @ 4200 rpm

An automatic on a small 4 is awful.

ahh those numbers are nasty..
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 01:25 PM
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hey hey hold up, i dun think there is such thing as an AUTO GTS.. manual GTS are the ones with 180, not the auto GTs.. rite??
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 01:51 PM
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No... there is an auto GT-S. I didn't realize that until I checked out Edmunds.

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2001/toyo...tml?id=lin0018

Originally posted by AznWontonboy
hey hey hold up, i dun think there is such thing as an AUTO GTS.. manual GTS are the ones with 180, not the auto GTs.. rite??
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 02:08 PM
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They're not really a piece of s***

but still
They are slow at acceleration and maybe good at top speed probably because of the light weight.
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 02:57 PM
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Lucky to race an Automatic GTS

You were lucky to race an Celica GTS Auto Trans,they are sort of slow specially at the low end, I own an Maxima Y2K Auto., and my son has an GTS 6 speed with a cone filter and a muffler thats it, he runs 14.5s, and wipes my *** easy. For the 1/8 mile its a close run, after that the Max is History. BTW my Max has an Stillen YPipe,KNFilt, VB Mods etc. Anyway Im a Max Lover!
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 03:04 PM
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Re: Lucky to race an Automatic GTS

Originally posted by Pepo
You were lucky to race an Celica GTS Auto Trans,they are sort of slow specially at the low end, I own an Maxima Y2K Auto., and my son has an GTS 6 speed with a cone filter and a muffler thats it, he runs 14.5s, and wipes my *** easy. For the 1/8 mile its a close run, after that the Max is History. BTW my Max has an Stillen YPipe,KNFilt, VB Mods etc. Anyway Im a Max Lover!
sorry bro, no such thing as a GTS auto... check paul2kGxe and his link
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 03:44 PM
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What?....check his link....there IS and AUTO GT-S!
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 05:50 PM
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Re: Re: Lucky to race an Automatic GTS

Originally posted by AznWontonboy


sorry bro, no such thing as a GTS auto... check paul2kGxe and his link

There is an Auto GTS
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Re: Lucky to race an Automatic GTS

Originally posted by AznWontonboy
sorry bro, no such thing as a GTS auto... check paul2kGxe and his link
dude ... I sat in his car! sure looked auto 2 me
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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Re: Re: Lucky to race an Automatic GTS

Actually I'm saying there is... based upon the information from Edmunds.com.

Originally posted by AznWontonboy


sorry bro, no such thing as a GTS auto... check paul2kGxe and his link
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 06:27 PM
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Re: Lucky to race an Automatic GTS

Pepo... that's pretty impressive. The best I've seen is a 14.9. I bet Larry J. in FL will give him a run for the money.

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You were lucky to race an Celica GTS Auto Trans,they are sort of slow specially at the low end, I own an Maxima Y2K Auto., and my son has an GTS 6 speed with a cone filter and a muffler thats it, he runs 14.5s, and wipes my *** easy. For the 1/8 mile its a close run, after that the Max is History. BTW my Max has an Stillen YPipe,KNFilt, VB Mods etc. Anyway Im a Max Lover!
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 06:52 PM
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o shoot mah bad.. haha
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 06:58 PM
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hmm ..

u were really "told" on this issue ... it's all good!

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o shoot mah bad.. haha
Old Apr 22, 2001 | 09:06 PM
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ok ok dun rub in.. geeeezz..
Old Apr 23, 2001 | 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by 2001SE
Those Celica are piece of s***
they are slow

They only have 1.8 liter engine and 180hp, not a big deal

My friend beat one with a 94 Chrysler LHS
And the ///M5 guy says, "Those Maximas are pieces of ****, they are slow."

They only have 3.0 liter engine and 227hp, not a big deal.

Don't flatter yourself.

Take a Max or LHS to the twisties with a GT-S, then see what's up.
Old Apr 23, 2001 | 06:10 PM
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To Paul

Hi Paul,remember me, tell Larry J from FL to take out the Catalist and he will touch the 14.5s. Regards

Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
Pepo... that's pretty impressive. The best I've seen is a 14.9. I bet Larry J. in FL will give him a run for the money.

Old Apr 23, 2001 | 06:55 PM
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Re: To Paul

Yep... you live near my Uncle in PR.

Larry is already hitting 14.3.

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Hi Paul,remember me, tell Larry J from FL to take out the Catalist and he will touch the 14.5s. Regards

Old Apr 24, 2001 | 03:36 AM
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well it's only 180 hp on a 1.8 but it's 2500 lbs too!
the best time for a Celica with a CAI and unbolted exhaust is 14.3
several other guys at newcelica.org have gotten 14.4s
This is as fast a 5th Gen.
Oh the twisties it'd be a little different
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 06:58 AM
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I've visited the site...

Originally posted by kit99bar
well it's only 180 hp on a 1.8 but it's 2500 lbs too!
the best time for a Celica with a CAI and unbolted exhaust is 14.3
several other guys at newcelica.org have gotten 14.4s
This is as fast a 5th Gen.
Oh the twisties it'd be a little different
the variance in the times is pretty big. Why is that? 4-cyl? Hard to drive? Not driven properly?
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by kit99bar

Oh the twisties it'd be a little different
I've driven a GTS with the auto, it is slow. That engine really needs to rev to make its power and an auto wont let it do it.

But, the handling and brakes are definitely better than the maxima. The thing handles like its on rails, and stops like you threw out an anchor.

Anyone else who's actually driven one can back me up on this...
Old Apr 24, 2001 | 09:44 AM
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There is such thing as the auto GT-S and it's a dawg. Most guys are getting mid 16s with the autos.

As for the 6 speeds, yes, there are two that have hit 14.3-14.4@98mph. However, the conditions at which these cars were run is pretty amazing. They were running under a barometric pressure of 32.3 which is like running 4000 feet BELOW sea level and the temp was 33 degrees. Prior to these ets, both drivers were in the upper 14s@94mph. They still don't admit that the conditions they were racing in made for the huge drop in et. Even a few Clubsi members were at the track that night and were running 14.9s in nearly stock Civic Sis. Tell me how often you've seen a nearly stock Si run 14s? The owner that hit a 14.3 has never been able to duplicate his best et even with the help of drag radials. Last I heard, he ran a 9.9 1/8th mile which means lower 15s (I think he did have slipping clutch).

For the most part, the GT-S 6 speed with an intake can run in the 14.7-14.9 range under more normal conditions. "Most" drivers are running 15.0-15.2@93mph.

The GT-S 6 speed is definately a match for any NA Maxima.


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Old Apr 24, 2001 | 04:36 PM
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darn you dave! you know more about my car than I do!

anyways I agree with everythign you said there. thanks for the heads up!
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