dyno my turbo 3rd gen not real happy
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From: oburg S.C.
dyno my turbo 3rd gen not real happy
ok I dont have the slip with me as im on a friends labtop but heres what i came out with
10psi with a ct26
this was done on a dyno jet and it was done in 3rd gear
the best run was 239.5 hp
351.5 l/b torque
the air fuel was around 11.9 a little on the rich side but not that bad.
Im just wondering why my horse power was so low. the torque was nice but the hp sucked.
10psi with a ct26
this was done on a dyno jet and it was done in 3rd gear
the best run was 239.5 hp
351.5 l/b torque
the air fuel was around 11.9 a little on the rich side but not that bad.
Im just wondering why my horse power was so low. the torque was nice but the hp sucked.
Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
Wholly Torque!!!! Did you upgrade your fuel pump as well? My guess is for you to try a real dyno soon because those numbers are muscle car numbers.
Was it on a dynojet?
Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
those numbers are muscle car numbers.
BTW as an interesting tidbit, muscle cars were considered any vehicle that had a 10:1 weight to HP ratio.
don't ask me where I heard that though, it's been over 10 yrs.
if drivetrain loss is 15% making stock whp 136 and wtq 153 you'd have:
103.5 hp gain and a 198.5 ft. lb. gain torque
when was the hp peak? maybe you were running too rich when the hp peaked dropping power a little bit.
103.5 hp gain and a 198.5 ft. lb. gain torque
when was the hp peak? maybe you were running too rich when the hp peaked dropping power a little bit.
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From: oburg S.C.
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
get us the curves before you make any assumptions.
you should have also run it in 4th gear.
you should have also run it in 4th gear.
Originally Posted by mtcookson
if drivetrain loss is 15% making stock whp 136 and wtq 153 you'd have:
103.5 hp gain and a 198.5 ft. lb. gain torque
when was the hp peak? maybe you were running too rich when the hp peaked dropping power a little bit.
103.5 hp gain and a 198.5 ft. lb. gain torque
when was the hp peak? maybe you were running too rich when the hp peaked dropping power a little bit.
from 136whp to 239.5whp with only 10psi boost and uber torque.. i think you should be very happy already.
in my foolish opinion i think hp increases not corresponding with torque increases prolly means breathing restrictions. like MrGone said...
in my foolish opinion i think hp increases not corresponding with torque increases prolly means breathing restrictions. like MrGone said...
I don't think those numbers are too shabby. I have a Tahoe with a 5.7 with a Whipple SuperCharger on it. The numbers are:
Stock W/ SC Gain %Gain
HP (Peak) 245 @ 4600 370 @ 4800 125 51%
Torque (Peak) 328 @ 2800 492 @ 2900 164 50%
Torque (Avg. - 2200-4000 RPM)320 479 159 50%
On a big V8 with 245 stock HP, the gain was barely more than you got with your turbo (and this was with a supercharger that retails for nearly $4,000).
I'd say you got your money's worth.
Stock W/ SC Gain %Gain
HP (Peak) 245 @ 4600 370 @ 4800 125 51%
Torque (Peak) 328 @ 2800 492 @ 2900 164 50%
Torque (Avg. - 2200-4000 RPM)320 479 159 50%
On a big V8 with 245 stock HP, the gain was barely more than you got with your turbo (and this was with a supercharger that retails for nearly $4,000).
I'd say you got your money's worth.
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
I did pull in 4th and the numbers were lower. ok the it looks like the peak was around 5000rpms
then your clutch was slipping, or those are the true numbers.
you want ACCURATE results, not just the highest number you can find on the car..
It sounds to me like your high end is REALLY falling off and some mods to help the engine breathe would be a very worthwhile investment..
the VG normally peaks around 5000rpm so that seems normal, but your torque numbers are either inflated from the 3rd gear run, or you have a LOT more power available to you with some tuning.


If you are using the stock turbo off a 87-89 z31,(which i think you are) which is a t25, i would say that you are reaching the limit of that turbo, since in stock form they are only pushing 190hp on ~4psi. You should have gone with a t3/t4.
forget to mention the top pic is off of "93turbo gxe" page, and the second one is
the t25 off of my 88t z31.
Originally Posted by NismoChi
If you are using the stock turbo off a 87-89 z31,(which i think you are) which is a t25
if the pull was done in 3rd those numbers are misleading and will read higher than normal so you cant compare them to anything else
go back do it in 4th again and post the dyno graph for us to look at
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I thought the Z31s had either a T28 or T3?
Also i "think" i saw a Nissan logo on his turbo, i don't think Toyota would anything like that in the Supra, would you?
Hey Mark, the rotors are waiting for me a the post office, and stop typing so fast.
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From: oburg S.C.
Originally Posted by NismoChi
84-86 Z31 use T3, and 87-96 z31, z32 use T25.
Also i "think" i saw a Nissan logo on his turbo, i don't think Toyota would anything like that in the Supra, would you?
Hey Mark, the rotors are waiting for me a the post office, and stop typing so fast.
Also i "think" i saw a Nissan logo on his turbo, i don't think Toyota would anything like that in the Supra, would you?
Hey Mark, the rotors are waiting for me a the post office, and stop typing so fast.
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From: oburg S.C.
Originally Posted by subs1000w
hes using a CT26 turbo off an older supra
if the pull was done in 3rd those numbers are misleading and will read higher than normal so you cant compare them to anything else
go back do it in 4th again and post the dyno graph for us to look at
if the pull was done in 3rd those numbers are misleading and will read higher than normal so you cant compare them to anything else
go back do it in 4th again and post the dyno graph for us to look at
first off, those are some pretty good numbers you ever get that video of you going like a bazillion miles an hour?? you can still upload it to my site.
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Just FYI my supra with CT26@10 psi just did 238RWHP and 265RWTQ on the Horsepower Freaks Dynojet with about a 9.0A/F Ratio.... 4th gear pulls.
Whatever this may mean to you I don't know, but I thought I'd throw it out.
Whatever this may mean to you I don't know, but I thought I'd throw it out.
Originally Posted by Bryan H
you're running too lean. remember, you're NOT an all motor car anymore
11.5 or lower a/f
id shoot for 11.2-11.1
just go with me on this one. don't flame me and tell me i don't know what im talking about.
11.5 or lower a/f
id shoot for 11.2-11.1
just go with me on this one. don't flame me and tell me i don't know what im talking about.
im like a mythical creature. show up, then go back in hiding.
i still lurk these boards sometimes to see what everyone is doing.
on the vg turbo deal, get rid of the ct26. it's not doing you any good.
lower the a/f and be happy!
i still lurk these boards sometimes to see what everyone is doing.
on the vg turbo deal, get rid of the ct26. it's not doing you any good.
lower the a/f and be happy!
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From: oburg S.C.
Originally Posted by Bryan H
im like a mythical creature. show up, then go back in hiding.
i still lurk these boards sometimes to see what everyone is doing.
on the vg turbo deal, get rid of the ct26. it's not doing you any good.
lower the a/f and be happy!
i still lurk these boards sometimes to see what everyone is doing.
on the vg turbo deal, get rid of the ct26. it's not doing you any good.
lower the a/f and be happy!
Ok my pipes that come from the manifold to turbo are about 12inches long and about 1 3/4 round someone said that they could be too small and cutting power. Maybe ill change them pipes and re dyno. But thats it for this 3rd gen. I will be going to the track this weekend and will let you all know what the out come is.
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From: oburg S.C.
Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
A stock 5 speed with a good driver can pull about low 16's or really high 15's. So with this upgrade granted that he has 100% traction can do mid to low 14's.
Ok if I catch traction I should pull high 13,s
Ok take for instant the 350z runs low 14,s like 14.1s
Im lighter than a 350z and have more wheel horsepower and torque than a 350z.
we shall see this weekend. two guys from the fourth gen bored are going to meet me at the track so maybe they can back me up.
But ill post this dyno slip on sunday with the track slips.
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
14.5to low 14,s?
Ok if I catch traction I should pull high 13,s
Ok take for instant the 350z runs low 14,s like 14.1s
Im lighter than a 350z and have more wheel horsepower and torque than a 350z.
we shall see this weekend. two guys from the fourth gen bored are going to meet me at the track so maybe they can back me up.
But ill post this dyno slip on sunday with the track slips.
Ok if I catch traction I should pull high 13,s
Ok take for instant the 350z runs low 14,s like 14.1s
Im lighter than a 350z and have more wheel horsepower and torque than a 350z.
we shall see this weekend. two guys from the fourth gen bored are going to meet me at the track so maybe they can back me up.
But ill post this dyno slip on sunday with the track slips.
350z dynos at about the same HP (around 230) but about 220tq
you do make lots more tq but lots of tq without slicks is a BAD combination
Originally Posted by 93turbo gxe
Oh on that case im actualy done with this car not another mod. Not because of the low horsepower its that im tired of no aftermarket surrport. Im hoping to get a 4th gen in the next month and im going to go turbo on this one also.



