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Old May 4, 2005 | 09:19 AM
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tokico illumina settings

Does anyone know what settings on the Tokico Illuminas are equivalent to Tokico HP's ("Blues")?
Old May 4, 2005 | 12:38 PM
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1 on the Illuminas is probably equivalent to the damping of the HP series.

2 on the Illuminas is just a tad firmer then the HP series, perfect for a mild drop sport spring.
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What about 3,4, and 5 tom??
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Apparently 5 is ridiculous and only for the track.
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ridiculous? how so? ridiculously firm ride? ridiculously rough ride? or ridiculously ridiculous overall?? J/W
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I think 3 =Tokico Blues. I think 3-4 is OK for most people.
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Originally Posted by BK1
I think 3 =Tokico Blues. I think 3-4 is OK for most people.
I had the blues couypled with my H&R's before I got the Illuminas. Believe me the blues are soft especially the rebound damping. I switched to the Illuminas because I felt that my H&R springs needed more control in rebound. The Illuminas, set on 2 did exactly that, they give slightly more ride control over the blues. I've driven with them set on one and it's pretty soft, the ride tends to get floaty at high speeds. Three is firm & sporty, four gets even firmer, and five gets things nice and stiff.
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I wish I could find a set of illuminas for under 408. I need them asap.
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I had the blues couypled with my H&R's before I got the Illuminas. Believe me the blues are soft especially the rebound damping. I switched to the Illuminas because I felt that my H&R springs needed more control in rebound. The Illuminas, set on 2 did exactly that, they give slightly more ride control over the blues. I've driven with them set on one and it's pretty soft, the ride tends to get floaty at high speeds. Three is firm & sporty, four gets even firmer, and five gets things nice and stiff.
I found myself bottoming out the suspension on hard cornering on 2, never tried one
Old May 4, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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Does the dial adjust rebound or compression dampening? or does it control both like in AGX's?
Old May 4, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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According to another thread I was just reading ("need more suspension travel?..." by Jsutter) the illumina's control both like the AGX's
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
I wish I could find a set of illuminas for under 408. I need them asap.
hey sonic this is on ebay and i know a few people in town and on the board including me that have purchased from this company
Tokico shocks
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Originally Posted by Terran
According to another thread I was just reading ("need more suspension travel?..." by Jsutter) the illumina's control both like the AGX's
True, but Tokico's valving is different then KYB's valving. Tokico tends to allow for a bit less rebound dampening, while KYB is just as firm on the compression stroke as on the rebound stroke. I feel thats what gives Tokico struts a better ride then KYB.

On the other hand Koni Yellows, which are also adjustable, only adjust rebound dampening, the compression dampening is fixed.

If you think about what the differance is you get a sense of how all the struts differ in ride. Koni valving gives you more of a planted down on the road feel, while Tokico gives a more like being on top of the road feel. Both have their pro's and con's. KYB simply dampens firmly in both directions, pretty basic ride control technology. Koni shocks are known for their excellent handling, (planted on the road) while Tokico I feel is known to provide a better ride while providing excellent handling as well. KYB's just ride very firm, which in turn gives you great handling. Koni's would be the choice for guys that auto-x their cars while Tokico is better for a daily driver just looking for added control while maintaining a nice ride.

If you play with an OEM Nissan strut from a Maxima, you'll find it has moderate compression dampening and fairly firm (slow) rebound dampening. That sort of puts it in a class by itself, then again they are tuned for the stock springs in our cars.
Old May 4, 2005 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
True, but Tokico's valving is different then KYB's valving. Tokico tends to allow for a bit less rebound dampening, while KYB is just as firm on the compression stroke as on the rebound stroke. I feel thats what gives Tokico struts a better ride then KYB.

On the other hand Koni Yellows, which are also adjustable, only adjust rebound dampening, the compression dampening is fixed.

If you think about what the differance is you get a sense of how all the struts differ in ride. Koni valving gives you more of a planted down on the road feel, while Tokico gives a more like being on top of the road feel. Both have their pro's and con's. KYB simply dampens firmly in both directions, pretty basic ride control technology. Koni shocks are known for their excellent handling, (planted on the road) while Tokico I feel is known to provide a better ride while providing excellent handling as well. KYB's just ride very firm, which in turn gives you great handling. Koni's would be the choice for guys that auto-x their cars while Tokico is better for a daily driver just looking for added control while maintaining a nice ride.

If you play with an OEM Nissan strut from a Maxima, you'll find it has moderate compression dampening and fairly firm (slow) rebound dampening. That sort of puts it in a class by itself, then again they are tuned for the stock springs in our cars.
I thought that a more comfortable ride comes from softer compression dampening in comparison to rebound dampening? This sounds like the opposite of what you are describing the Illuminas as. I also thought that softer rebound dampening in comparison to compression dampening is what causes the "floaty" feeling of our maximas - especially from the OEM dampers.
Old May 4, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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my tokico3s blew on me last week... and its only been there for lil bit more than a year.
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What kind of tokicos? Illuminas or HPs?
Old May 4, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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i bought mine for 450 shipped, if nebody wants i can get them for that price or perhaps even cheaper
Old May 4, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
I wish I could find a set of illuminas for under 408. I need them asap.
save a bit more and get coilovers...I know I will
Old May 4, 2005 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by joooowan
my tokico3s blew on me last week... and its only been there for lil bit more than a year.
My stock shocks haven't blown and I have over 1.5 years on them with Tein S-tech springs.
Old May 5, 2005 | 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
I wish I could find a set of illuminas for under 408. I need them asap.

How about $419 w/ $15 shipping?
Old May 5, 2005 | 05:58 AM
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Why would I pay more when I can get them for 408 shipped online? If you can do for less then that price and they are new, then get in touch with me.
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I don't think you will find them for under 408 shipped, but that would be awesome. If anybody gets a group deal going for mid/high 300's, I am def in.
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I've had mine set to 5 before, actually 4 in the front and 5 in the back. This is with stock springs, fyi. It makes the car feel more sporty, with the car responding to bumps quicker, but it gets a little tiresome after dealing with it for a few days of commuting. For some reason, I like going on long trips with it set up that high, and normal commuting/around town driving I keep it soft (2 in the front, 3 in the rear).

I think the higher settings make the vehicle handle/feel better at higher speeds, whereas it's overkill for low-speed driving around town.
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
Why would I pay more when I can get them for 408 shipped online? If you can do for less then that price and they are new, then get in touch with me.
Where can you get them for $408 shipped?

You might consider that knocking yourself out to save a few bucks is just not worth all the extra effort...unless you really do have a tight budget. What kind of price are you looking to find?

My recommendation would be to try other automotive forums like this one (and there are lots to choose from) to see who is selling them. You might just score a set of "pre-owned" struts at a price you like.
Old May 19, 2005 | 04:31 AM
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True, but Tokico's valving is different then KYB's valving. Tokico tends to allow for a bit less rebound dampening, while KYB is just as firm on the compression stroke as on the rebound stroke. I feel thats what gives Tokico struts a better ride then KYB.

If you think about what the differance is you get a sense of how all the struts differ in ride. Koni valving gives you more of a planted down on the road feel, while Tokico gives a more like being on top of the road feel. Both have their pro's and con's. KYB simply dampens firmly in both directions, pretty basic ride control technology. Koni shocks are known for their excellent handling, (planted on the road) while Tokico I feel is known to provide a better ride while providing excellent handling as well. KYB's just ride very firm, which in turn gives you great handling. Tokico is better for a daily driver just looking for added control while maintaining a nice ride.

If you play with an OEM Nissan strut from a Maxima, you'll find it has moderate compression dampening and fairly firm (slow) rebound dampening. That sort of puts it in a class by itself, then again they are tuned for the stock springs in our cars.

So do the Tokico's really have firmer compression dampening than rebound, or did you just accidently mix the 2 up?

I am planning on using stock SE springs as i like the stock ride except that it's a bit too cushy. I don't like the KYB GR2's i have on now, so will the Illuminas set at 1 & 2 feel better than the GR2's but more controlled than stock dampers?
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