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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:16 AM
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Why? WhY? I hope someone got fired for this...

Ok, who dropped the ball on the 6th gen sunroofs?

I have a 2k2 gle that I plan on trading in for a 2k5 with 10-20k on it (Or maybe new If I can find the right price).

Ok, so its funny the things you look for in a car. The 2 items I cannot live withOUT*edit* are 1. a power moonroof, and 2. radio/cd controls on the steering wheel.

Now of course (Cannot live withOUT) maybe going a little over board....But If im paying on something for 60 months I want to be completly happy with it...

anywho, car shopping this weekend and I could not find one used 05 with a power moonroof. All of them had the pointless see through roof. Honeslty, what is the point of that thing? Didnt people b!tch after '04? I cant believe they left that in the '05s. Will it be in the 6ths? Now if it opened it would be another story.

Sorry for the vent, but I cant believe someone got paid to create such a moronic "feature"

I feel better now.

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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Umm, errr, boy do I feel stupid for buying my SL the skyview now.

Is it that you can't live WITH or WITHOUT a sunroof and steering wheel radio controls?
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by psu711
Ok, who dropped the ball on the 6th gen sunroofs?

I have a 2k2 gle that I plan on trading in for a 2k5 with 10-20k on it (Or maybe new If I can find the right price).

Ok, so its funny the things you look for in a car. The 2 items I cannot live with are 1. a power moonroof, and 2. radio/cd controls on the steering wheel.

Now of course (Cannot live with) maybe going a little over board....But If im paying on something for 60 months I want to be completly happy with it...

anywho, car shopping this weekend and I could not find one used 05 with a power moonroof. All of them had the pointless see through roof. Honeslty, what is the point of that thing? Didnt people b!tch after '04? I cant believe they left that in the '05s. Will it be in the 6ths? Now if it opened it would be another story.

Sorry for the vent, but I cant believe someone got paid to create such a moronic "feature"

I feel better now.

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uhm....disagree
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:41 AM
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Clarification(?)

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Ok, who dropped the ball on the 6th gen sunroofs?

I have a 2k2 gle that I plan on trading in for a 2k5 with 10-20k on it (Or maybe new If I can find the right price).

Ok, so its funny the things you look for in a car. The 2 items I cannot live with are 1. a power moonroof, and 2. radio/cd controls on the steering wheel.

Now of course (Cannot live with) maybe going a little over board....But If im paying on something for 60 months I want to be completly happy with it...

anywho, car shopping this weekend and I could not find one used 05 with a power moonroof. All of them had the pointless see through roof. Honeslty, what is the point of that thing? Didnt people b!tch after '04? I cant believe they left that in the '05s. Will it be in the 6ths? Now if it opened it would be another story.

Sorry for the vent, but I cant believe someone got paid to create such a moronic "feature"

I feel better now.

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If you can't live WITH a power moonroof, then why are you shoppping so earnestly for a car with one. Further, if you can't live with a power moonroof, then it doesn't seem to make sense to decry the skyview roof that does not open, because if you can't live with a power moonroof, then your only other option is the skyview roof. Is neither option palatable to you? Please clarify.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by psu711
Ok, who dropped the ball on the 6th gen sunroofs?

I have a 2k2 gle that I plan on trading in for a 2k5 with 10-20k on it (Or maybe new If I can find the right price).

Ok, so its funny the things you look for in a car. The 2 items I cannot live with are 1. a power moonroof, and 2. radio/cd controls on the steering wheel.

Now of course (Cannot live with) maybe going a little over board....But If im paying on something for 60 months I want to be completly happy with it...

anywho, car shopping this weekend and I could not find one used 05 with a power moonroof. All of them had the pointless see through roof. Honeslty, what is the point of that thing? Didnt people b!tch after '04? I cant believe they left that in the '05s. Will it be in the 6ths? Now if it opened it would be another story.

Sorry for the vent, but I cant believe someone got paid to create such a moronic "feature"

I feel better now.

Agree/Disagree?
I don't understand your complaint. you say "The 2 items I cannot live with are 1. a power moonroof, and 2. radio/cd controls on the steering wheel."
so you should be happy the standard roof is not power.

It seems no one thought it necessary to explain to you that instead of a "regular" roof, the Max comes standard (no charge) to have a glass panel. If you couldn't live without a power roof, you buy one with the power moonroof. Most dealers order them with it to get the extra $900 for it.

Sorry to read you "cannot live with" steering wheel controls. Then just don't use them.

So I am kinda confused by your complaints, but I love my power sunroof and steering controls, so I'll have to:

Disagree.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wsu
If you can't live WITH a power moonroof, then why are you shoppping so earnestly for a car with one. Further, if you can't live with a power moonroof, then it doesn't seem to make sense to decry the skyview roof that does not open, because if you can't live with a power moonroof, then your only other option is the skyview roof. Is neither option palatable to you? Please clarify.
Well it's obviously some typo, where he can't live without a power moonroof and steering wheel controls. He's just pissed because he waited this long to get into an '05, and now it's slim pickings at the dealerships. So... instead of waiting for the 06s to come out or continue shopping, he figures he'll come around crying about the skyview suckage, even though 40% of the people here have them, and being that it's not forced on anybody, people obviously like them -- or at least enough to buy the car.

I thought I couldn't live without a moonroof and a sun shade (which I have in my other car), but I seriously don't miss them on my Maxima. And hell, if I had wanted the power moonroof I could have gotten it, but I wanted the Smoke/Latte instead (got mine late in 04) so I picked it off the lot.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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I personally am glad I have the skyview vs a regular moonroof... they are so unique, everyone loves them, although yes, everyone does ask why they dont open... but who cares, when someone passes me in a truck or big suv, they are always looking over at it, wondering what it is!
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:04 AM
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I'm with Christ. I have the skyview and it's totally unique which is why I wanted it. I'm not a fan of sunroofs, T-Tops or convertibles. I prefer to look out and that's it. If I wanted to feel the wind I would roll down my windows. The skyview is a conversation piece. Everyone has questions and would like to know more about it. I guess it's not for everyone though.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisaust
I personally am glad I have the skyview vs a regular moonroof... they are so unique, everyone loves them, although yes, everyone does ask why they dont open... but who cares, when someone passes me in a truck or big suv, they are always looking over at it, wondering what it is!
I also love the skyview. It's unique....the only vehicle with it that I know of. My neighbors like how there is a "sunroof" for the rear passengers. I always get compliments on it and I don't regret the decision I made. I don't think Nissan dropped the ball on this. I personally think they hit a home run with it.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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One confused Individual...
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Old Jun 13, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Wow, a little hostile in the earlier posts....

yep made a typo this morning and it should of said cannot live withOUT...,

Not attacking anyone for having a skyview just cannot make any sense out of why you guys like them....To each his own I know...

This is a message forum, just trying to help the work day along....Sorry for stepping on the skyview-fan toes.

I do agree they are very unique looking and when the 6ths gen came out a year ago Nissan made sure the commericials featured them but also made sure to "avoid" the fact that they dont open.

Great Great idea to be unique and as some said conversation pieces, I just can't for the life of me figure out why they wouldnt make them open.

Probably some more typos in here so have fun.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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Power sunroof is the bomb.
Won't be without one in the future.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Well i dont mind having the skyview in place of a solid roof. It adds to the spacious feeling of the car having some light coming from the top of the Max, also looks neat when looked at while in the back seats. And i think it looks nice. Serves almost the same purpose as skyview windows in homes.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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The Skyview makes the inside of the car more roomy and is uniqe, I have had nothing but compliments, plus I take it too and from work daily and since I wear suits and ties all day, I choose not to bake in the hot sun moving in urban traffic. If I need a powered sunroof, I'll drive my Chevy Trailblazer LTZ. Overall, I luv the skyview best, however to each is own...
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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My wife wouldn't let me buy a new car without two things

1. Oh Crap handles (I drive fast around corners)
2. POWER MOONROOF
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Is it just me or am I the only one who likes my SkyView roof.....I never really liked the sunroofs......hated them when they jammed. I would rather get a base model that came with a free skyview...then a car that came with a solid roof. Not like I paid anything for the skyview. It is a nice conversation piece for me as well. I like it anyways.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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I actually hate sunroofs - they always seem to leak after years of use. Skyview cool but the "why doesn't it open" comments do get old.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JiuJitsuThug
I actually hate sunroofs - they always seem to leak after years of use. Skyview cool but the "why doesn't it open" comments do get old.
I agree with the "Why does it not open?" But I like it, like to keep it open on the rainy days......on the hot summer days, reminds me of my wifes T-Top Camaro. The heat with it open burns me up. Thinking about tinting them.

Has anyone TINTED the SkyView? I do love it though and to be able to open one or the other. It is pretty unique though....no leaks with mine.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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i liked the skyview roof till I realized they don't open.
I thought they look cool and unique.

when I went to buy the max, I realized that they don't open and I
went with the power moonroof.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 06:33 PM
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I like the skyview roof....it's very original. now if that thing opened up.....HOT DAMN!!!....but I still like it regardless.
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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I have a skyview it's cool. However, i do wish I could open it. The design work to make that happen can't be all that hard, it can't. I hope in the 06 it's an option to open it.

My tidbit..
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:01 PM
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woa, that was wierd. i didn't even see that post RIGHT before mine. I like the way you think Starz...(in homer voice)
Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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Like ya Skys

I think your Skys are pretty good , but still like my Sunroof for lots of reasons but a couple being you can tilt the back up and leave that way to keep the car cooler on hot days and secondly you can have a have a lung torpedo in the car and the smoke just floats on out the roof...

Yes I am a dirty rotten smoker ... my secret is out ....

Old Jun 13, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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good call on the sun roof for the vent factor. Also: to throw your gum out, spit, toss mardi gras beads, dry your hand with the wind, etc etc..

highly useful.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 12:26 AM
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Originally Posted by viguera
I thought I couldn't live without a moonroof and a sun shade (which I have in my other car), but I seriously don't miss them on my Maxima. And hell, if I had wanted the power moonroof I could have gotten it, but I wanted the Smoke/Latte instead (got mine late in 04) so I picked it off the lot.
I had a similar experience. I wanted a power sun roof, but I wanted cloth seats and a 6-speed much more. All of the Max's I could find in Colorado (when I needed a replacement car fast) that had power sun roofs also had automatic trannies and leather seats. So I took the sky-view roof. I miss the ability of not being able to tilt the power roof for better ventilation, but overall I don't miss it that much.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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The Skyview makes the inside of the car more roomy..
how is that?
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LMaRiE91MaXiMa
how is that?
Imagine a room with no windows, now imagine it with...

Any room with a view will look bigger, and the center line area where the skyview is located has about 2 inches more head room, hence, more roomy.

A sun roof has to retract between the the outer roof and inner ceiling, thus takes up more space...

I think you get the picture.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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That is true, if you look at the spec sheet on the Nissan Maxima at the Nissan website, you will see that you have more headroom with the skyview than with the sunroof. That is another reason I like the skyview.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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That is true, if you look at the spec sheet on the Nissan Maxima at the Nissan website, you will see that you have more headroom with the skyview than with the sunroof. That is another reason I like the skyview.
Yeah, sunroofs do subtract from the headroom of a car. It's never been a concern for me since I'm just 5'9". Of the five cars I've owned, four had sunroofs. The four were all Nissans. The other was a Camaro. I wanted a sunroof but my only option was T-tops. I never really cared for t-tops so I went with one with a regular roof. I felt more than a little closed in at first but I got used to it. I don't particularly care for the skyview roof on Maximas but it's a lot better than nothing at all.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 03:03 PM
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Carcus makes the best point when he points out that the skyview is not an option you're paying extra for. It's an interesting feature that they put on at no extra charge for those who choose not to pay extra for (or just don't want) a moonroof. While I enjoy my moonroof I also think the skyviews are very appealing-looking. Not only from inside, but also from the outside.

As an aside though, I'm somewhere around 6'3 and have no headroom issues whatsoever with the moonroof.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 04:42 PM
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It's personal preference. I hear ya man. I wanted a solid roof or a power roof. I didn't like the skyview look. As for the controls on the wheel. I never had them but now it's a must too. The only option I had to have was Nav.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 05:24 PM
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Seems as if a lot of folks here did not major in physics.

If the skyroof were to slide open, where would the glass go? It obviously can't go forward or backward very far. And if one looks closely at the shape of the roof, it is clear the glass can't go very far to either side, either. So it has nowhere to slide to.

As for just 'opening' vertically, the only way would be to have the thing hinged at the front and open an inch or two at the rear. And that would require mechanicals and electronics and a newly designed internal water drainage system, and would add a chunk of money to the base cost of the car.

Most importantly, should the shape of the car have allowed room for the skyroof to 'slide' open, a power skyroof would require mechanicals and motor and electronics/controls and other such stuff.

Although years of experience have brought the price of the power moonroof down below $1,000, a ground-breaking power skyroof woud probably add $1,500 to $2,000 to the price of the car, and also take away headroom the entire length of the car.

Nissan fans should be joyful the designers of the base Maxima, given a choice between a skyview roof or a plain metal roof, gave us the skyroof. FREE.
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:18 PM
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That is true, if you look at the spec sheet on the Nissan Maxima at the Nissan website, you will see that you have more headroom with the skyview than with the sunroof. That is another reason I like the skyview.
How big is your head that you need that extra space? Seems big enough with the sun roof to me. Wouldnt trade my SL for an SE, my 2 cents....
Old Jun 14, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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How big is your head that you need that extra space? Seems big enough with the sun roof to me. Wouldnt trade my SL for an SE, my 2 cents....
anyone 6' and up does need all the space available. I wouldn't give up my sunroof for the extra inch(es), but if my seat isn't reclinced, i touch the ceiling. what does SL vs. SE have to do with anything?
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by NismoMax80
anyone 6' and up does need all the space available. I wouldn't give up my sunroof for the extra inch(es), but if my seat isn't reclinced, i touch the ceiling. what does SL vs. SE have to do with anything?
Am I incorrect in saying that the SE has the moonroof, ie those few extra inches, and the SL comes with the sunroof? Thats what it has to do with.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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I am very glad that the car comes with the skyview. I would have had to have gone without as I am 6'3" and my head hits with the sunroof.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Am I incorrect in saying that the SE has the moonroof, ie those few extra inches, and the SL comes with the sunroof? Thats what it has to do with.
Wrong.
The previous question of "What does SL vs SE have to do with" this question of SkyView vs Sun Roof is right on.
Old Jun 15, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Is it just me or am I the only one who likes my SkyView roof.....I never really liked the sunroofs......hated them when they jammed. I would rather get a base model that came with a free skyview...then a car that came with a solid roof. Not like I paid anything for the skyview. It is a nice conversation piece for me as well. I like it anyways.
No your not the only one, I love my skyview as well. I think it is totally cool and really enjoy it. I get tons of compliments on it as well as the "Does it open?" questions of course. I am actually glad it doesn't open living in FL the sun is way too hot for an open sunroof as well as the creatures, humidity, rain every afternoon, etc. I just use the climate control AC and look out at the sky thru my skyview.
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iclrod - In case you may have some doubt lingering after several posters here responded that the SE vs SL situation is not involved, there is no difference whatsoever between the SE and SL roofs.

They both come with standard skyview (exactly the same on both SL and SE), and both can be bought with optional power sunroof (exactly the same on both SL and SE). Some folks call the sunroof a moonroof, but whatever we call it, it is exactly the same on both SE and SL.



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