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Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:04 PM
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Ever felt the steering wandering??

Recently I have noticed that the steering wanders after hitting the smallest bumps on the road. It's almost like a loose feeling in the steering. Anyone else ever have that problem? She has 115K and I am sure the bushings are worn. I am just not sure which ones to change and how.

Any ideas????
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:11 PM
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I have the same problem ever since i lowered and put 18's on
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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it is very irritating. almost feels like the wheel is going to come off. with mine, it does not happen all the time. only after i hit road bumps. that causes it and also play in steering...
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:30 PM
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Yeah I'm in the same boat, lowered with 19's...hit road bumps at low speeds and the wheel has a mind of its own.
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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me too.. lowered the front only... and it is very loose.... was thinking of doing the back but now I see that it is not the rear that is causing it.......
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:38 PM
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these things make me wanna get rid of her. do the coilover guys have the same problems??
Old Jul 15, 2005 | 09:39 PM
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pm from a fellow orger:
It sounds like your struts are blown if your car starts floating when you hit those bumps. You "might" need to replace the control arms when you hear some clunking noise which means the ball joints maybe on it's way out. Also when your steering wanders around, kinda loose, this means that your bushings are worn. Worn bushings cannot keep the alignment in spec. I hope that helps.


i know the struts are fine. so i guess next would be to check the control arms
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Yeah, I have noticed this as well. Anyone know which bushings need to be replaced?
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:11 AM
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Next Im going to replace the bushings and the balljoints.... the car has 92K miles so I think it is time.....
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ZIPPIN
Recently I have noticed that the steering wanders after hitting the smallest bumps on the road. It's almost like a loose feeling in the steering. Anyone else ever have that problem? She has 115K and I am sure the bushings are worn. I am just not sure which ones to change and how.

Any ideas????

I have this EXACT problem... which is funny because i was thinking about making a post about it today. this issue is very annoying, it feels like i have no contol of my car. i know that when i take a hard turn, something makes a loud creak/cracking sound, so something is wrong... and i am still trying to figure out if i have bad shocks. it is hard to tell with such stiff springs, and i do not want to rip apart my whole suspension for nothing.

I need to call nissan very soon... i keep putting it off.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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well i am having the same problem also, i just replaced my suspension last weekend and the problem still exists. i get pulled to the left a little bit.

does someone have a service manuel picture of the front end suspension components that shows what could be damaged, so that we know what me might have to replace??
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 07:17 AM
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I have the same problem with 58k and all stock suspension. A couple of times when driving out of my garage up the hill I have heard a spring popping like noise so I don't know if this has something to do with this.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 07:35 AM
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and here i thought i was the only one who has this problem. i am waiting for irish, and blackbird to read this and give their 2 cents!
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by phobix
I have the same problem with 58k and all stock suspension.
Me too. I have 49,xxx on mine, stock suspension, and when I go over bumps I can feel almost a "rattle" in my steering wheel. It has just recently come on. At first I thought it might be my rotors warping or something because it was pretty noticable when braking, but it happens over bumps when I'm not braking too. I just took it to the dealer a few weeks ago and asked them to take a look at the front end (shocks, struts, bushings, the whole deal). All they said was that I needed an alignment and a tire rotation. Didn't help (plus they bled off some of my tire pressure - annoying - I filled them past 32 for a reason).
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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I have coilovers, it is called feedback. Get used to it.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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JIC FLT-A2, no such issue.

Sounds like yall need to see a good alignment shop
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:29 AM
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well mine was never like this unitl i put my rims on as soon as i did that i noticed right away
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:31 AM
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Different tires = different ride/handling qualities. Also short sidewalls=you must pay attention to path control
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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attention to path control? Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean by that?
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
attention to path control? Pardon my ignorance, but what do you mean by that?

going straight.....tires with shorter sidewalls have less tolerance to deflection, therefore you must pay more attention to going straight. However, there is alot more to it than that. Tread pattern, road surface, tread depth, inflation pressure, suspension stiffness, caster settings, etc... take the car to a good alignment shop and be done with it.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Also, for those in states whose highways have truck grooves...that will play havoc with your car going straight as well
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
going straight.....tires with shorter sidewalls have less tolerance to deflection, therefore you must pay more attention to going straight. However, there is alot more to it than that. Tread pattern, road surface, tread depth, inflation pressure, suspension stiffness, caster settings, etc... take the car to a good alignment shop and be done with it.

Oh, I understand now... I seemingly was just misinterpreting what you were trying to convey. Thanks for the clarification.
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but it still does not make sense. why would this happen all of a sudden? tires are the same, wheels are balanced, alignment is fine................
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by silvermax2k2
I have this EXACT problem... which is funny because i was thinking about making a post about it today. this issue is very annoying, it feels like i have no contol of my car. i know that when i take a hard turn, something makes a loud creak/cracking sound, so something is wrong... and i am still trying to figure out if i have bad shocks. it is hard to tell with such stiff springs, and i do not want to rip apart my whole suspension for nothing.

I need to call nissan very soon... i keep putting it off.
i have the SAME damn problem, i think i know the answer to this though, the CV boot is leaking grease and needs to be regreased. this is what causes the sounds (cracking) on hard turns.
but i have the same problem as everyone else in this thread, might be that our springs aren't compressed enough and we're just riding out our springs instead of our struts like we're supposed to be. i'm running progress with GR-2 and i'm floating all over the place.
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oh and btw, my lower ball joints are worn and this also causes the car to feel loose and wobbly in the front end.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by ZIPPIN
alignment is fine................

Have you had it checked to confirm that?
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Have you had it checked to confirm that?
i got her aligned a few months back from firestone. perhaps i should take her back and have them re-do it
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Originally Posted by ZIPPIN
i got her aligned a few months back from firestone. perhaps i should take her back and have them re-do it

A few months is enough to jiggle the alignment out of place...
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
A few months is enough to jiggle the alignment out of place...
now that i think of it, it was not that bad before i got her aligned. damn firestone
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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now that i think of it, it was not that bad before i got her aligned. damn firestone
Firestone sucks....the TKperformance shop here in miami is the best in the state. Before you ask, TK performance is a branch of tire kingdom.
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:19 AM
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Guys , replace your inner tie rods/ LCA bushings / balljoints and sway bar bushings . align the car and it will ride like new again

check out my thread on replacing LCA and I have Inner tie rod writ up in my signature.


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=391391


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Old Jul 16, 2005 | 10:26 AM
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i think this happens more with wider and smaller profile tires. going from 205x15 i feel a lot more road inconsistencies now that i have 225x17 rims. you are going to have a more responsive steering than in other cars with smaller rims.
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Originally Posted by nick
Guys , replace your inner tie rods/ LCA bushings / balljoints and sway bar bushings . align the car and it will ride like new again

check out my thread on replacing LCA and I have Inner tie rod writ up in my signature.


http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=391391


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nice write-up. thanks
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by beeda
Me too. I have 49,xxx on mine, stock suspension, and when I go over bumps I can feel almost a "rattle" in my steering wheel. It has just recently come on. At first I thought it might be my rotors warping or something because it was pretty noticable when braking, but it happens over bumps when I'm not braking too. I just took it to the dealer a few weeks ago and asked them to take a look at the front end (shocks, struts, bushings, the whole deal). All they said was that I needed an alignment and a tire rotation. Didn't help (plus they bled off some of my tire pressure - annoying - I filled them past 32 for a reason).
I have that rattle problem too. If you ever ever figure out what it is PLEASE TELL ME!!! I have had everything inspected from bushings to ball joints, tie-rod ends, the works, and for the life of me can not figure it out. Dealers keep giving me the infamous...Can't reproduce the problem.
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Originally Posted by E55AMG2
Firestone sucks....the TKperformance shop here in miami is the best in the state. Before you ask, TK performance is a branch of tire kingdom.
Firestone does blow. Avoid them.
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those truck grooves already screw me up on stockers.....they've almost guided me into other lanes/cars at times and i was paying attention mind you.
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the steering is crap. i get this odd pull to the left at times while sometimes it is good, or pulls to the right...

on certain roads at 60+ i get an odd humming/bumping noise coming from the rear (think of a jeep with a busted differential noise). 95% of the time though it isn't there.

i looked at it several times and it looks good.. i don't get the per say floating problem but i do get others, including an always kinky alignment.

Guys , replace your inner tie rods/ LCA bushings / balljoints and sway bar bushings . align the car and it will ride like new again

check out my thread on replacing LCA and I have Inner tie rod writ up in my signature.
wohoo sweet. i need to stop putting it off then..
Old Jul 16, 2005 | 05:55 PM
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this is making me more and more so many of us have suffered from this. i thought it was just me!!!
yet another fuqued-up NISSAN problem
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yea i know what you mean. i have the exact same problem of EvilsRoadsVictim, i was just too lazy to type it out, though i dont have any humming coming from the rear.

so im assuming there are not aftermarket parts for this. where do we buy these things.

Originally Posted by nick
Guys , replace your inner tie rods/ LCA bushings / balljoints and sway bar bushings . align the car and it will ride like new again



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