With my new rims i really dont wanna keep these brake pads on because the dust is really bad... not to mention my front brakes are almost totally gone. I would like to purchase some new brake pads this weekend, whats a good kind (porterfield?) and how much should I be expecting to pay? Thanks in advance. -Nine

 

I had the Bendix Titanium-metallics and now have the Porterfield R4S's. They both put out quite a bit of dust, but I don't really mind because they are easier on the rotors than most low-dust semi-metallic pads.

You can get Porterfields factory direct for $79 (that's with the Maxima.org $20 discount). Bendix's are about $50 from Olympic Brake, www.olybrake.com

If you want low-dust pads, go to Pep Boys or AutoZone and get their lifetime warranty pads. Generally speaking, the longer they last, the less they dust, the poorer the braking performance and the harder they are on your rotors.

 

Kenneth,

Is that all I am to you? Something similar?




Now I'm hurt.....

 

None that stop well. Ask Bill99GXE or something similar

 

AXXIS Deluxe Racing Pads.... Awesome..

www.brakeco.com

 

Axxis Deluxe are the ones i'm going with. Suppose to be around $40

 

The Axxis Deluxe pads are garbage, IMHO. My experience with them has been no better than Nissan OEM pads: similar dusting and weak performance. Member "got rice?" agrees with my sentiments, while member "Loren00miata" and, apparently, RussMaxManiac disagree.

Get the Axxis Metal-LU or Axxis Metalmaster pads as described in a sticky post in the 3rd and 4th generation forums: minimal dusting, good pedal feel, decent price. Better yet, the Porterfield R4S pads are better performing, but they dust quite a bit.

 

Ummm sorry but they do perform well. I have these pads per Loren's recommendation, broken then in properly, and these pads BLOW away the stock pads period. I have done many insane 100+mph to 20 mph slow downs without any problems or brake fade. No squealing either. They do dust a little only when used in the method I described above, but normal driving there fine.

If you go with metal masters which are also very good pads, you will not have any brakes really till you heat them up (About 5-10 stops when you 1st start driving). Also Axxis metal masters sometime squeal, but not often.

The only time the pads will not work good is if you did not properly brake them in. They are recommended pads by many SCCA groups. AXXIS are not garbage Bill. You obviously did not install them properly or break them in.

 

Translation: Bill you're an idiot. You don't know how to install brakes.

My reply: Ok. That's your opinion.

My reply: That's my experience as well.

Translation: Bill is still an idiot and doesn't know how to break-in pads.

My reply: Obie-kabie. Thanks for repeating yourself.

Translation: People who know a heckuva lot more than Bill use these pads, so Bill is just blowing smoke.

My reply: That would be time #3 for repeating that I'm an idiot, and this time it's by using a legitimate group to back up a weak opinion.

My reply: If you would EVER TAKE THE TIME TO READ Russ, you would see that I believe Axxis Deluxe pads are garbage, NOT Axxis in general. Where can I send you a dictionary and thesaurus?

My reply: Well, at least you finally stated it directly. That would be the fourth time you've said this. "got rice?" agrees with my sentiments, so feel free to attack him as well.

Russ, you truly amaze me sometimes. If your gonna flame, come up with something at least lukewarm.

 

Bill, I trust Loren's opinion over anyone else on this board, and Don's as well. They know the cars inside and out, and have done many many tests on them with different products. I will trust there efforts on what they find. They have been here as long as I have 5 yrs now, and when they say something I trust it. On the other hand there are people who have been here 3 yrs, that say things, like you just did, with no evidence except your opinion that said there complete junk. Only one person so far has said this per there experience. I have yet to see another.

If got rice had a problem with them, I haven't seen him post about his findings yet.....

 

so what's the proper way of breaking in brake pads. just curious.

 

Yes, they are trusted sources. Loren is the one who steered me to try the Axxis Deluxe Plus pads. They were the worst pads I've used, and I've done a double-digit number of brake jobs.

Agreed. It's the only time I haven't concurred with their findings.

To equate yourself with Don or Loren is laughable. Just because you hang around them doesn't mean you are them. It also doesn't legitimize your ignorance and blanket assessment statements, either. So, by Russ logic:

- 5 years on ".org" = seasoned, experienced, trustworthy
- 3 years on ".org" = babe in the woods, doesn't know wtf is going on

I think "got rice?", who sells Axxis pads, is a reliable second source of opinion. Don't you? Hmmm......but I don't think he's been here 5 years yet, so that makes him a babe-in-the-woods, too.

Search is so overrated:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=19113

As far as experience, my Maxima experience dates back late 1991, age 17, when I cut my teeth on my dad's 89 Maxima. Since then, I've progressed to my 94 and 99 Maximas. I have an understanding of how to do normal maintenance items, including what to use as parts. Sorry if that ain't good enough for ya, but I would tend to think I can discern good brake pads.


Have a Smile:

 

So Russ, by your logic, everyone that is old is naturally smarter than the rest of us because they have been around longer?? Well I don't know about you, but I know some people older than me that aren't the brightest lightbulbs in the box. I mean come on.. I think Bill's opinion is very credible here because of the fact that he HAS used the pads and he didn't like them. So, he has the right to say they are garbage. Just remember just because people are here for a long time doesn't mean they know what they are talking about.

 

10 stops from 30 to 0 medium pedal pressure with about 1 min cool down time driving around normally between the heavy stops.

 

Okay, lets change this frame of talk. They know more about the Maxima any MOST people on this club knows about the Maxima period. Who cares about the age added. Bill's opinion is just another opinion like anyone elses. Alot of people have been successful with thoses pads. And I will say it again, Bill obviously did not break them in properly. They are picky and if you do not do it just right, they will not work well. Sometimes it takes me up to 2 times to break them in properly.

 

So Bill, let me get this straight. So you are saying I should listen to you instead of them? Really? What makes you think YOU are so right? You GOD or something? My god, sounds to me you are calling Loren and Don stupid.

 

Translation: I have no comeback, so time to take it at another angle to prove I know more than you.

My reply: Ok.



My reply: Is English your native language? I think I agree with what you're saying, but you're just repeating a statement that I already agreed with in two other posts.

You did about 2 hours ago.

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Bill's opinion is just another opinion like anyone elses.

Hmmmm...I thought it didn't count because I didn't break the pads in right. Furthermore, I've never had pad wear problems, only rotor warpage problems. Every pad I've removed (except the Axxis Deluxe pads interestingly enough) had over 50% left in them.

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Alot of people have been successful with thoses pads.

Maybe on other applications, but not Maximas. Do you have a list? I only know of 2 for and 2 against.

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And I will say it again, Bill obviously did not break them in properly.

Translation: I can't think of anything else to refute Bill so I'll just say he didn't break them in right...

My reply: I didn't know you were there.

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They are picky and if you do not do it just right, they will not work well. Sometimes it takes me up to 2 times to break them in properly.

So it's possible you didn't break them in right, either?

 

man, you guys are getting out of control. Take it up through email or private messages and try not to clutter up the forum with personal issues.

 

Actually Russ, Bill is giving his opinion and his experience with the brake pads. He is in no way calling Loren or Don stupid. He is calling your statment that you will believe them over him because they have been on this board two years longer than him, he is calling THAT stupid. Last time I checked this is a board where you can give your opinions and experiences freely when people ask. He had the experience of those pads being garbage, so that's what he said. I don't recall in any of his posts that he said that Loren and Don were stupid. In fact, he said that they are very reputable. You need to calm down a bit and look at what Bill really said.

 

Ok.

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So you are saying I should listen to you instead of them? Really?

No, unlike your opinions, mine are offered for people to read and use at their discretion. My stickies are disclaimed as to not be gospel, just FYI and include MINE (not your) experiences. Using your 5-year rule, your opinions should be followed because you've been here longer.

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What makes you think YOU are so right?

Experience. I've done half a dozen brake jobs on 3 Maximas. Unfortunately, only 3 have been what I consider successful. I'm just sharing my knowledge.

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You GOD or something?

I hope not. If I am, we're in trouble.

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My god, sounds to me you are calling Loren and Don stupid.

That statement should be enough to get you banned. Please find where I called Loren and Don stupid and I'll quit as moderator. How dare you say something so stupid and wrong.


It's lock down time as this is getting nowhere. Plus, I'm a moderator, so I can have that power.

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