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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 08:06 PM
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Replace stock radio with factory NAV and radio?

Can that be done on a 2002 (by the dealer)? If so, how much would it cost? Anyone done it and have before and after pics?
Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:31 PM
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Can that be done on a 2002 (by the dealer)? If so, how much would it cost? Anyone done it and have before and after pics?
Why don't you just go to the dealer and ask?
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A) I don't think anyone's ever had it done.
B) Parts cost from the dealer would be astronomical
C) Navigation is CD based and not that good; tons of better, DVD based, aftermarket nav systems out there.
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i found junked car and got parts.. so far total cost.. 356$ antenna navi/temp controll unit/ also the radio that has special leads for the navi voice.... now all i need is ac amp....price of 130$ form everythingnissn for auto AC and ill be good....
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MetaOrbit
A) I don't think anyone's ever had it done.
B) Parts cost from the dealer would be astronomical
C) Navigation is CD based and not that good; tons of better, DVD based, aftermarket nav systems out there.
I totally agree, aftermarket is the way to go. CD Nav Sux. You need a set of CD's instead of one DVD for the entire country. You will also get better features on an aftermarket system. Most of them already come with a lot as well as being expandable.
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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hes rite.. but i want to keep factory option... and im not really into puting videio ie in the car... but yea.. pioneer makes a pretty oem looking unit.. but its cd based.. i dont know why.. but they all cost above 1000... this at most 500... and looks stock so im happy i beileve. heh

to each his own...
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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I'm still waiting till I can buy my Eclipse unit I never thought I would consider dropping $1500 on a HU. That thing is bad@ss though.
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:26 PM
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I totally agree, aftermarket is the way to go. CD Nav Sux. You need a set of CD's instead of one DVD for the entire country. You will also get better features on an aftermarket system. Most of them already come with a lot as well as being expandable.
Yeah, I know that DVD is better than CD. My thought really was that if the dealer put it in it would be covered under factory warranty. I didn't want to put in a high price H/U and then void the manufacturer warranty. I may just go without and wait to get a Q w/one already in it or something.
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Why don't you just go to the dealer and ask?
Well you know how the dealer will tell you just about anything to get your $$. But the guys on this list will give more honest info based on personal experiences.
Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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You're not going to void the warranty on the car by changing to an aftermarket unit. You won't get them to warranty the nav unit you bought separately, but anything else that goes wrong they're still responsible for and will fix.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by NewLoveI30
I totally agree, aftermarket is the way to go. CD Nav Sux. You need a set of CD's instead of one DVD for the entire country. You will also get better features on an aftermarket system. Most of them already come with a lot as well as being expandable.
LMAO! You guys kill me. Yeah there are ton of aftermarket navi systems that perform better than even the stock DVD Nav base systems in the Infinitis but, who needs all that. I think that is a over kill. Coming from someone with navigation, I actually use mine alot (not to mention it looks nice and women like moving parts going up & down) and the quote "Going cross country via CannonBall run" is silly. I rarely leave the tri-state metropolitian area and my navi is perfect. I drove through NY, PA, MD, NJ, DC, VA, NC WV, and had no problems. That is a lot of states and if I do decide to go outside of those regions, it's as simple as: Hit Eject button/grab cd from sun-visor cd case/take out R9 nav cd/replace with R* cd. If you are like me and have to listen to a different music CD, then you can replace the nav cd as simple as changing your music cds. The navi even prompts you ahead of time to change cd if you are leaving the region. There is a group of us that swap Navi cds and I have every region (burnt copy versions ) and I never had one problem not to mention the controls are simple enough that my grandmother used it once. Plus the navigation system and screen is flush with the dash and doesn't look out of place.

ANYWAY, I just called everythingnissan and gave Dan my vin number for my I35. He said the motorized mechanism to retract and fold out the lcd screen on the factory navi models is about $3178 (he said he can knock off $500), not including the actual navigation unit that goes above the radio. Your best bet I guess is to find a navigation equipped I35 at a junkyard and strip the hell out of it. Furthermore, navigation equipped models have alot more parts than just the antenna, ac amp, navi unit and lcd screen. I tried to retro-fit navigation into my 02 Qx4 and spent about $2500 to find out that it wont work. You need vehicle speed sensors, (new/used) Main wiring harness, on board compass, navi ready tape deck stock radio, navi harness, navigation unit, motorized LCD screen unit with wires and all necessary wires. Good luck! I see an access of $5000, you ARE better off going aftermarket.
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It's alright if you have it (I still can't stand using it. My dad wishes he'd never gotten it on his I35), but my main point, and I think yours (Lee), is that you shouldn't bother spending the time, money, and effort to retrofit the stock setup when there are viable aftermarket solutions available.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by MetaOrbit
It's alright if you have it (I still can't stand using it. My dad wishes he'd never gotten it on his I35), but my main point, and I think yours (Lee), is that you shouldn't bother spending the time, money, and effort to retrofit the stock setup when there are viable aftermarket solutions available.
Your right. Actually, all that I was saying could have been summed up into two words "Go Aftermarket". It's a waste of time and money to retro-fit the original unit.

I must have had a lot of coffee this morning to write those to paragraphs.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by leeI35
ANYWAY, I just called everythingnissan and gave Dan my vin number for my I35. He said the motorized mechanism to retract and fold out the lcd screen on the factory navi models is about $3178 (he said he can knock off $500), not including the actual navigation unit that goes above the radio. I see an access of $5000, you ARE better off going aftermarket.
Thanks for making that call. I appreciate it. After looking at that cost it's really not worth it to me. It would've been better to find one with NAV already. Well, no matter - that'll just give me something to look forward to on the next go 'round. I still want a Q or M, so I'll aim for a fully loaded one in a few years. Thanks guys.
Old Aug 2, 2005 | 10:08 PM
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well unless you get the system for 350$ = )..... anyhow...
this pioneer unit looks awesome... i mean i would get it if i had the money....
its black.. looks very oem.. and since green is the color inside the color for lights.. it matches and it wont be out of place...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fo437fZ...h=pioneer+navi
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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well unless you get the system for 350$ = )..... anyhow...
this pioneer unit looks awesome... i mean i would get it if i had the money....
its black.. looks very oem.. and since green is the color inside the color for lights.. it matches and it wont be out of place...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fo437fZ...h=pioneer+navi
wow, that looks very nice. If I still had my Qx4 I would have hopped all over that.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 10:01 AM
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I would have been all over it if it played DVD Video.
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MetaOrbit
It's alright if you have it (I still can't stand using it. My dad wishes he'd never gotten it on his I35), but my main point, and I think yours (Lee), is that you shouldn't bother spending the time, money, and effort to retrofit the stock setup when there are viable aftermarket solutions available.
Yep - Agreed
Old Aug 3, 2005 | 04:29 PM
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well unless you get the system for 350$ = )..... anyhow...
this pioneer unit looks awesome... i mean i would get it if i had the money....
its black.. looks very oem.. and since green is the color inside the color for lights.. it matches and it wont be out of place...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fo437fZ...h=pioneer+navi
That's a really nice unit. It doesn't fit though. The next unit up plays DVDs too. Do you know anybody that has one?
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That unit will fit.
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 03:38 AM
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That unit will fit.
Thanks! Do you know if the next one up will fit too - the one that plays DVDs? Any suggestions on install would be good too. In the past the guys at Best Buy said that if a car has a Bose system they don't want to mess with it because it's too hard to get out and set up in the correct way. And I'll never get anything installed at Circuit City again. They don't take care of the customer's merchandise (scratches, etc) during install.
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Anything that's 1 or 2 din will fit...meaning pretty much everything on Crutchfield's website. And I don't think there is another model up, unless you'd be referring to the AVIC-N2, which is a flip-out screen unit.

If you do your research, Bose isn't a problem.
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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I want navi. Initially I thought it was just a gimmick.....but it really is useful.
Old Aug 4, 2005 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MetaOrbit
I don't think there is another model up, unless you'd be referring to the AVIC-N2, which is a flip-out screen unit.

Yeah, that's the one that I was talking about the AVIC-N2. Thanks.
Old Aug 12, 2005 | 10:44 PM
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Back-Up Camera on the I35

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well unless you get the system for 350$ = )..... anyhow...
this pioneer unit looks awesome... http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fo437fZ...h=pioneer+navi
I was wondering if the back-up camera like the Q would work on the I35. Then I started searching and found out the Pioneer back-up camera can be added to the head unit listed above. http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...536701,00.html
That's really something to think about. If I can find good reviews on the camera then I would'nt have to dream about a Q anymore.
Old Aug 13, 2005 | 04:29 AM
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Cheaper than Crutchfield

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this pioneer unit looks awesome... iit matches and it wont be out of place...

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-fo437fZ...h=pioneer+navi
There are a couple of spots that have it for several hundred cheaper than crutchfield. So you can get the NAV and the back-up camera for under $1500.

http://www.nextag.com/buyer/outpdir....ioneer+avic+d1
Old Aug 14, 2005 | 05:50 AM
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There are a couple of spots that have it for several hundred cheaper than crutchfield. So you can get the NAV and the back-up camera for under $1500.
I went to look at it yesterday. It's a nice looking unit. But after looking at the console in the car. I didn't see where it would fit nicely and not cause the need to remove the auto temp unit/controls. The space is not large enough to house both. So I'm going to go without. I need the extended warranty and four new tires anyway. So those are first on the list. The NAV is just another luxury I guess.
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This is how it fits:

Old Aug 14, 2005 | 06:37 AM
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This is how it fits:

Thanks Meta -that's very helpful. I'm definitely getting one now. Yours looks tight! I see yours has the black plastic immediately surrounding head unit, with woodgrain on the edges. I don't have the wood grain in my car though. Questions:

1. Did you have to put the woodgrain up there to fill in space on the edges, or were they completely filled by the black plastic?

2. Who'd you have complete your install, and were you satisfied with the work?

3. Did you get the rearview camera too? If so how's the picture quality?

4. What're your overall thoughts on the NAV unit? How much to you like it, best things about it, etc...
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1. Did you have to put the woodgrain up there to fill in space on the edges, or were they completely filled by the black plastic?

2. Who'd you have complete your install, and were you satisfied with the work?

3. Did you get the rearview camera too? If so how's the picture quality?

4. What're your overall thoughts on the NAV unit? How much to you like it, best things about it, etc...
Mine is the Kenwood DDX7015, so it's a little different, but still a double din HU.

1. The kit is one that Oss and I had Sy import from a Taiwanese Cefiro. It only comes in woodgrain. You'd probably be able to paint it, but it looks pretty good with my window switches and center console, IMO.

2. My friend and I did the install ourselves. I'm more than satisfied with it. I do all my audio installs and frankly wouldn't have it any other way.

3. Didn't install the rearview camera.

4. On the kenwood there's an add-on module to use navigation. Again, I didn't install it. I don't really have a need for it.
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Well, I went to Tweeter today to talk to the tech and here’s what I got.

1. They won’t install anything that you buy somewhere else.

2. The head unit will fit, but only with a custom made box around it.

3. To have the aforementioned custom box to match the interior color exactly it would have to be painted by a body shop (of course they happened to know one).

4. In order for the steering wheel audio controls to work with the new head unit another piece would have to be purchased to add on.

5. The time to do all of this would be about two weeks.

What’s the cost you ask?

$1500 for the head unit
$ 250 for the rearview camera
$400 for the custom mold to fit the double din
$ 200 for the piece to make the steering wheel controls work
$100 for painting to match interior
$250 for the install

Grand Total = $2,700
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Whew. First mistake was going to Tweeter. Corporate, chain-type stores are the worst for anything that's not conventional.

As for the install, it's really not difficult. It's something you could easily do yourself. Personally, I wouldn't deal with Tweeter at all.

The custom "box" they keep telling you about is the wood grain piece that I have surrounding my unit. It's nothing more than an install kit. The Max guys buy ones made by Metra, Scoshe, etc. Unfortunately, no aftermarket company makes them for our cars (dash is a bit wider than the max's). That's where the power of the internet comes into play.

The dash kit I have, I got from Sy, who in turn had it shipped from Taiwan. It fits perfectly, it damn near matches the wood grain already in the car.

The steering wheel controls, again, are not an issue. The adapter is the PAC SWI-X, and it can be had for $50. I bought mine for $50 and installed it myself. My steering wheel controls are working with my DDX7015 as we speak.

Buying things from Tweeter is never cheap, so I can't speak on the prices of the actual products you'd be buying from them. I can tell you that $250 for an install fee is a hell of a lot. $200 for the steering wheel control adapter is a sheer rip off, as well as the $400 for the "custom mold, box, etc." The kit I have I paid $80 for. And the cost for painting is still a bit high (I've paid less to have spoilers painted).

If you're determined to install this, buy the equipment online, do some research, and install it yourself. Or if you still don't feel comfortable, go to some independent car audio shops, talk to each one, find one that you feel is competent, and have them do the labor. You'll still come out ahead.
Old Aug 15, 2005 | 03:28 AM
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Whew.Corporate, chain-type stores are the worst for anything that's not conventional.
Thanks for all of the tips. I definitely was not going to do anything through Tweeter. But the prices that they quoted were so outlandish that I though it'd give the guys on the org a laugh.
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heh A/C heater amp and ill be set... for my installl.. heh...

good luck with the installl man... post up on this...
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So what would I need to install factory navigation in my I35? I thought all I would need would be a GPS antennae, a display, and the bose/nav console...? Can someone please explain to me what I'm missing.
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Originally Posted by nycspudz03
So what would I need to install factory navigation in my I35? I thought all I would need would be a GPS antennae, a display, and the bose/nav console...? Can someone please explain to me what I'm missing.
need the

1) ac/auto amp (for climate control)
2) the display unit (for.. well the display and navi cd etc
3) gps antenna
4) bose compatible headunit... (the single din unit with tape from a pathfinder will work as well but the maxima and i30 one have RDS [radio station and song names come up on the radio's LCD] )

I actually jsut finished the install alot of people set out to do it...on the org.. and everyone i know of has given up... its many hours of wiring diagrams from the donor car+ your car.. but i feel its worth it if your an OEM look and feel freak..

hey your in NY nice.... you found any cars with the ac/auto amp..?

im still not fully done.. as i need to make a custom trim for my "vision" of what i want... + the auto amp isn't fully wired.. i got it working but i disconnected it.. to make a permenant harness for it...
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