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Old Oct 13, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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I was wondering if there is anyway i could releave the presser in the AC system so i could remove it from the car completly. I have the motor out and i came up with a late idea to take it out for a small improvment in hp and weight reduction. i know i should of done this before when i could drive the car to a place and have them do it, but its to late. any ideas?
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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anybody? ive called AC shops and they give me the run around, im lost and am about to just start cutting lines.
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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does the compressor work, and any leaks? How much if its good?
Old Oct 13, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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the whole system work with no problems, pm an offer
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 06:50 AM
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the whole system work with no problems, pm an offer
can i buy the lines off of you. I need the line that goes down to this weird little thing by the front header, then a line from that goes to the big condensor thing attatched the radiator.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by madmaxima420
I was wondering if there is anyway i could releave the presser in the AC system so i could remove it from the car completly. I have the motor out and i came up with a late idea to take it out for a small improvment in hp and weight reduction. i know i should of done this before when i could drive the car to a place and have them do it, but its to late. any ideas?
Are you asking because you want to know how to do it without releasing it to the atmosphere? It requires an evacuated container that you can transfer the refrigerant into.

Just releasing the refrigerant into the atmosphere is easy. Just unscrew one of the refrigerant lines until it starts to leak.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 10:09 AM
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as long as it's not R12, releasing it to the atmosphere is not a problem. R134 is only $10/can at autozone. I think it would be more trouble than it's worth to try to capture it instead of releasing it.

be sure to unscrew a low pressure line and NOT a high pressure line. It could burst and injure you.
Old Oct 14, 2005 | 10:24 AM
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as long as it's not R12, releasing it to the atmosphere is not a problem. R134 is only $10/can at autozone. I think it would be more trouble than it's worth to try to capture it instead of releasing it.

be sure to unscrew a low pressure line and NOT a high pressure line. It could burst and injure you.
With the engine off it doesn't matter which one you unscrew.
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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thanks for the info ill be getting to this hopefully next week.
Old Oct 15, 2005 | 11:45 PM
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R134a Quadrupled in price last spring. You SHOULD take it to a shop and have them evacuate it.
Old Oct 16, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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If it's only $10/can at autozone, it's prolly not worth your time to take it somewhere and pay them labor to evacuate it.
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http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/608/subrecsm.html


"Under section 608 of the Clean Air Act, it has been illegal since November 15, 1995, to knowingly vent substitutes for CFC and HCFC refrigerants during the maintenance, service, repair and disposal of air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment. On June 11, 1998, EPA proposed a regulation to fully implement this statutory venting prohibition."

Don't be a feakin idiot about it, just have it evacuated like you're supposed to.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
http://www.epa.gov/ozone/title6/608/subrecsm.html


"Under section 608 of the Clean Air Act, it has been illegal since November 15, 1995, to knowingly vent substitutes for CFC and HCFC refrigerants during the maintenance, service, repair and disposal of air-conditioning and refrigeration equipment. On June 11, 1998, EPA proposed a regulation to fully implement this statutory venting prohibition."

Don't be a feakin idiot about it, just have it evacuated like you're supposed to.
like no one drives around with a catalytic converter, and no one speeds. They are all breaking the law. And running around with no catalytic converter for a week is probably worse then loosing 4 lbs of refrigerant.
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This is just rediculous. I don't see anything wrong with venting r134a. I wouldn't vent R12 though.

The EPA in a lot of cases is full of $hit. Note that " heat transfer fluids are considered refrigerants."

"EPA is proposing to exempt the following refrigerants from the venting prohibition:"

* ammonia that is used in absorption systems or in commercial or industrial process refrigeration systems
* hydrocarbons that are used in industrial process refrigeration systems for processing hydrocarbons
* chlorine that is used in industrial process refrigeration systems for processing chlorine or chlorine compounds
* CO2, nitrogen, and water

So, venting water or ammonia (windex) to the atmosphere is currently illegal. Breathing is illegal too since we exhale CO2. Venting motor oil is illegal too since it's a heat transfer fluid.
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 09:32 AM
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If you car is still going to be a street car, then y in the heck do u want to take the ac off, do u know how little power it takes...... even if u have the ac on full blast and you go to WOT the ac cluth will automaticaly disengage. so u would loose the hp it take to move the pully while it is freewheeling............-.0001 hp
Old Oct 26, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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Its not a street car right now theres nothing in it, every unessary item in the car is being removed for Track Use Only. If its that hot outside ill drive my truck.
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