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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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SE-R Vspec vs. modded 4th gen

There's an SE-R Vspec at work that is prompting this question. From what I can see, it's got a CF hood and aftermarket exhaust. Which would be quicker in the 1/4 mile: him or me?

Him:
SE-R Vspec (late 90s/early 00s model, not the latest gen sentra)
CF hood
Exhaust
5spd

Me:
96 5spd
Full exhaust minus headers
00VI
Technosquare ECU (no rev limit upgrade)
17" wheels (16.5 lbs apiece) w/ Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 rubber
No weight reduction

Same driver, same conditions, etc.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 02:54 PM
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If you get good traction off the line than you shouldn't have a problem. With the mods you have you should be able to take out that older model STOCK SE-R without a problem.

Those older SE-R's can be made pretty quick though. They come with an LSD which works like a dream. With a couple mods on the SE-R, Intake, headers, exhaust and ECU, He'll be able to ride right next to you. Proper tuning and he could take you out.

I speak from experience. Killed a couple bolt-on old model SE-R's, they were running 15.5-15.7. Got killed by one that appeared completely stock with a JWT ecu (co-worker's car, he claims to have nothing in there but the ecu and he usually doesn't lie), he ran a 14.4 and had some major topend power when he ran me. That car is dead now so I'm pretty sure something was malfunctioning and giving him an increase in power.

Your current mods = low 14's, am i right?
SER with bolt ons and ECU = mid to low 14's (mainly due to the LSD)

Quarter mile... anybody's race
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Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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Last time I ran this car, it did 15.5 @ 95mph w/ a 2.7 60'. This car has been a 5spd for less than three months and I pulled that ET/trap a month ago. It should be good for low 14s though. The car is fast, the driver is not.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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Race and find out. That's sorta the fun part isn't it?
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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I would but there're two problems:

1) I don't know the owner
2) I spend most of my weekends working
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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15.5 @ 95 with a 60 foot of 2.7?

i thought my 2.3 60 foot was bad.... you need to practice those launches if you wanna take him out in the 1/4 mile. Those SE-R's will put down a 2.1-2.2 60 ft time w/ crappy tires and still have enough juice (15.2-15.3) to keep ahead of you until the end of the quarter mile.

I recommend racing from a second gear roll (if you could find a track to do that on, street racing is not tolerated..... on the org.)
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Yeah, my launching is terrible. I've tried just dropping the clutch, feathering, varying RPMs, but can't seem to nail anything decent.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 03:15 PM
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That 95 mph trap indicates you're good for at least mid 14's.

60' needs to come down ... I know you already knew that though.
Old Oct 17, 2005 | 06:41 PM
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So basically, if he's got boltons, we're going to run neck and neck if I can get my launching down.
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They didn't make SE-R Spec-Vs before 2002... is this the model you are talking about?



Regardless, your car is faster stock than his is, and you have more mods. If you don't win you can't drive as well as he can.
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Yep, that's the car.
Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:25 AM
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Get to know him and his mods, ask him to take you for a spin.

But I think you'll walk him.
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I think you can take him, i raced one before. I was surprised.... I mean they are preatty quick but if you know how to drive........He's yours!!!
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 03:36 PM
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you should be able to beat him all around. my friend has a lexus is300 and he's raced those SE-R's before with smoked wheels (prolly lightweights!?) and my friend beat him without a prob, lexus is auto.

my friend and i race, and i walk all over him throughout my powerband. from second gear i get him by 2-3 cars. btw i'm 5spd
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Ty,

Like I told ya, they can look stock yet Spec Vs can run very low 14 sec miles and put down 185WHP with just bolt ons. I would be more worried if its a 00-01 Sentra SE 2.0L, they came with a roller rocker (weaker block and head) version of the SR20DE, and you can make those things run mid 13s for bout 1500 bux in mods- aka boost, and then you will have issues with em.

Here is a 2000 Sentra SE 2.0L


Front end is different, and the wheels are the same as 00-01 Altima SE ones.

Here is the good 'ole friend, SR20DE in its last 2 years of glory in the US.


Or was it one of these ?

1998 or 1999 (diff front bumper, grill and headlights) Sentra SE- with the old version of the SR20DE motor, which would make it a Phase II series. 1991-93 was Phase 1- THE best version, 94-99 was Phase II with more and more emission stuff on em at the end of their run, and 00-01 was the last and final version of the SR20DE Phase III with diff block, head and roller rockers.
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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A stock Spec V is usually a mid, maybe low 15-second car. With just an exhaust I doubt he's trapping 95 mph like you. A stock 4th gen 5-speed can run 14's stock and with the top end of a 00 VI I doubt you'd have a problem pulling on him, unless he's got more than just an exhaust.

LSD is useless in a straightline. I've got a broken VLSD that acts as an open diff and almost pulled a 1.9 60 foot on stock all-seasons. Sentras aren't any easier to launch than maximas.
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 04:57 PM
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The car was the same as what Neal posted. I didn't see the car in the lot today otherwise I would've left him a note.
Old Oct 19, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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Alot of misinformation here. Hopefully I can clear a few things up b/c I used to own an '02 SpecV and had one of the quickest stock times recorded online for the car: 14.87 @ 90.82 mph w/ 2.150 60ft. The car launches very well if the driver knows what he's doin but tends to run out of steam up top. FYI, I was pretty even with my friend's 01 Maxima 5spd untill after 80+ then he started inching ahead. Just to give you an idea of how they run. With your mods, You should be pulling on him as the speed increases. Good Luck.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PlanoSER
Alot of misinformation here. Hopefully I can clear a few things up b/c I used to own an '02 SpecV and had one of the quickest stock times recorded online for the car: 14.87 @ 90.82 mph w/ 2.150 60ft. The car launches very well if the driver knows what he's doin but tends to run out of steam up top. FYI, I was pretty even with my friend's 01 Maxima 5spd untill after 80+ then he started inching ahead. Just to give you an idea of how they run. With your mods, You should be pulling on him as the speed increases. Good Luck.
Like I said man..... race from a roll.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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ok my homeboys o4 spec v with just a exhaust runs 15.2 with a 2.1 60ft.
Old Oct 29, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Old Oct 29, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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I murder my friend's 02 spec v with intake....and I was stock 5spd 2000 SE...with my full bolt-on '95 it was a joke how I ran away!
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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with some decent mods, intake, header exhaust and a good clutch the QR25DE Spec-V is a fairly fast car. powerband starts at 2500 and keeps going with mods (esp if you have an AFC on top of that) but in stock trim they are just quick off the line and not that good up top, but with mods they are very quick cars from the start. QR25DE has a 100mm rod stroke so it's torquey. they are very good cars through the corners too.

btw SE-R Spec-V's are 6-speeds.

A friend of mine has one with I/H/E/SAFC-2/Light rims+tires/suspension
he's fast from start and has good midrange, but since i have the 99 USIM he always gets past me on topend.

however if you have the 00VI... that makes things different since maximas are good with 00vi up top.

then again it all depends on the drivers/ racing conditions
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 05:45 PM
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my best friend has a specv andwe hang out with alot fo spec's

with exhasut and intake its ognna run 14.9 at best!!!!!!!!! my best finred wit that setup ran 15.2 best and he had amazing times.... sooo

my other friend has 04 specv headers, safc2, intake, short shifter, cam, downpipe, catback, motor mounts and sumttin else cant remember running 14.6 best
Old Oct 31, 2005 | 07:39 PM
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Well, track season's basically over so I guess I won't be finding out any time soon. Oh well, gives me time to learn to drive properly.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 01:26 AM
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dude that spec v is toast, i ran one at the track 5 times and the best time he got on my was a 15.4 with intake. I was stock and ran a 14.7. they have potential but a decent driver in a 5 speed maxima can take it down no prob.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PlanoSER
Alot of misinformation here. Hopefully I can clear a few things up b/c I used to own an '02 SpecV and had one of the quickest stock times recorded online for the car: 14.87 @ 90.82 mph w/ 2.150 60ft. The car launches very well if the driver knows what he's doin but tends to run out of steam up top. FYI, I was pretty even with my friend's 01 Maxima 5spd untill after 80+ then he started inching ahead. Just to give you an idea of how they run. With your mods, You should be pulling on him as the speed increases. Good Luck.
no timeslips no care.

i can't find a stock spec-V on thevboard.com that is running your time. let alone, intake, exhaust, and suspension isn't even hitting your times.
Old Nov 20, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by h2kPinkPnthr
dude that spec v is toast, i ran one at the track 5 times and the best time he got on my was a 15.4 with intake. I was stock and ran a 14.7. they have potential but a decent driver in a 5 speed maxima can take it down no prob.
Timeslip? That would mean you tied the fastest stock time.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=289125
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I found out that I am in fact faster than the SE-R and I'll leave it at that.
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Originally Posted by OOmaxSE
no timeslips no care.

i can't find a stock spec-V on thevboard.com that is running your time. let alone, intake, exhaust, and suspension isn't even hitting your times.

I've seen PlanoSER's timeslip online before. He posts on another board I post on.


Timeslip? That would mean you tied the fastest stock time.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=289125
No it wouldn't. That sticky is old and not updated with current information.
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