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Old Dec 4, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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decisions decisions...coilovers

i see group deals for D2s and for K Sports...what do you guys think is better?..i wanna get a set but i dont know which one...they seem really similar..what are the differences?
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anyone????
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if you want information about the ksports check out the 18 page long thread or so in general. im sure you can find some info in there.
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Yea I'd start with a good snack and the Kspot thread, read what others are going thru with it.
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just rode in blackmaxx96's max w/ D2's.................amazing - absolutely amazing. I will definitely be getting some from him (check out his deal in the Group Deal Forum)
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thanks guys i did some reading..not done yet..seems to be mostly noise problems..nothing mechanical...not too much talk about d2 so i cant get a real comparison..
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I believe D2 has since fixed these problems concerning all those noise issues - i didnt hear any from blackmaxx's
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Try the ksports...I tried both and the ksports are definitely the winner out of the two...the rubber isolaters on the D2s were very flimsy....fell apart within a few weeks...
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same $hit. i got ksports and i love em. smoooth like baby's butt
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 03:32 AM
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same $hit. i got ksports and i love em. smoooth like baby's butt
Have you been feelin up babies bottoms lately?
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thanks for the replys guys..guess im leanin toward k sport..but its still a gamble..hopefully i get a good set..its not like my cattman y pipe that i bought with confidence ...anyone know which company came out with this coilover first..and how long a go?
Old Dec 5, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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ive haerd k-sports are top quality, they seem just as good as jic, defenatly go with the k-sports man.
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The issues with the D2 coilovers have been fixed.
Those were on the first design for our car... since then the issues have been resolved.

I've ridden in a car with Ksports, and now my car with D2's.... the ride is comparable... I like the D2's better because adjustability and the fact that I can get replacement parts for them 3,4, 5 years from now for CHEAP.. and D2 is very good about honoring their warranty..... not to mention the PRICE!!!
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amy other suggestions?
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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u can go with illuminas, and eibachs, will also handel very well, but not quiet like coilovers, plus they just look so sweet!!! adjustable camber in the front (which most of us dont use anyway) and if u ever wantto go for wider wheels, the coilovers give u like an extra inch of clearence.
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i have illuminas ..they were used for 3 months..i have to sell them in order to buy the coilovers..i want coilovers just not possitive which ones
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boss chen coilovers are better than these two..
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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How much are the boss chens?
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Originally Posted by NCSU_MAX
just rode in blackmaxx96's max w/ D2's.................amazing - absolutely amazing. I will definitely be getting some from him (check out his deal in the Group Deal Forum)
Can you please define "amazing"? Firm ride, smooth ride, amount of roll, etc?
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
boss chen coilovers are better than these two..
Really, where are the reviews from someone outside you or Larrio? Its almost a sure thing, if there is a coilover thread, you will pop in and throw your "boss chen is better than all of those" Yet so far, only two people have them. Hmm... sound like

I'm sure they help with brake bias too right?
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Really, where are the reviews from someone outside you or Larrio? Its almost a sure thing, if there is a coilover thread, you will pop in and throw your "boss chen is better than all of those" Yet so far, only two people have them. Hmm... sound like

I'm sure they help with brake bias too right?

so you're gonna ban for that too?
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Also, didn't the sponsor that was trying to sell these get BANNED because he screwed people?????.....hmmmmmm
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
so you're gonna ban for that too?
Your still here are you not?
Old Dec 7, 2005 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by blackmaxx96
Also, didn't the sponsor that was trying to sell these get BANNED because he screwed people?????.....hmmmmmm

boss chen is not a sponsor of the org, nor was ***..
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Can you please define "amazing"? Firm ride, smooth ride, amount of roll, etc
Well I can tell you first hand.
The ride is smoother (you dont feel the harsh parts of the rode/bumps/dips/rocks etc. as much as I did with my previous setup).
Firm ride- As said by many about EVERY coilover, when it comes to handling its like your on rails... the car steering is incredibly responsive and almost twitchy.
Bodyroll- it's pretty much non-existant.

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Did I mention Boss Chen??? No.
I thought I remember reading the ban long a while back and hearing from other .org members about the person that was selling them on the .org screwed many .org's that bought them.

Pretty much i'm just sick of every thread you post saying that your coilovers are better than everything... are they available to the public???? No.
Still, I am not saying which is better, I have never ridden in a maxima with Ksports or any other coilover other than D2's so I will not say that they are better than either... Though I will give my opinion on D2's... not how they're better than other coilovers...
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
boss chen is not a sponsor of the org, nor was ***..
You still did not answer the question. Everytime someone post a coilover thead, you come in and throw your $.01 about how boss chen is better than any other coilover out there. Yet only two people have them. How is that a test of there reliability or performance? Everyone should just take your word for it, on a product you got from a former member who is no longer welcomed on the .Org (notice I said member, not sponsor) Right, this sounds like a great product. Or are you just trying to thumb your nose at the rest of the .org members here because you have something they do not and cannot get? get over yourself and your untested suspension. People are asking for reviews on coilovers available to the general public, that multiple members have used, not just those with a hidden agenda.
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thank you
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Also.... considering the Boss chens use the OEM strut mounts... how do you adjust camber???? I would like to know how the Boss Chens are better than Ksports or D2's when it comes to adjustability.......Fill us all in.
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You still did not answer the question. Everytime someone post a coilover thead, you come in and throw your $.01 about how boss chen is better than any other coilover out there.
Boss chens are specifically designed for the a32/33 platform. Ie: soft spring rates 7kg mm front and 8 kg mm rear for the A32. They're not a universal coilover system like D2, Ksport made to fit the a32.

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Yet only two people have them. How is that a test of there reliability or performance?
Last time i checked, 4 maximas are running boss chen coilovers, and non have had a single problem with them.

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Everyone should just take your word for it, on a product you got from a former member who is no longer welcomed on the .Org (notice I said member, not sponsor) Right, this sounds like a great product.
how did you figure i got the coilovers from "that" member? I got my coilovers from Larrio.

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Or are you just trying to thumb your nose at the rest of the .org members here because you have something they do not and cannot get?
Several ppl have pm'ed me about these coilovers, and always tell them to go to Larrio for more information on the coilovers, and where to purchase them.

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get over yourself and your untested suspension. People are asking for reviews on coilovers available to the general public, that multiple members have used, not just those with a hidden agenda.
untested? what's untested about it? Hidden agenda? whoa.. that's a pretty big AZZumption..
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Originally Posted by blackmaxx96
Also.... considering the Boss chens use the OEM strut mounts... how do you adjust camber???? I would like to know how the Boss Chens are better than Ksports or D2's when it comes to adjustability.......Fill us all in.
The camber adjustment is done through the lower mount. Once again my car is lowered 3.5" and i was able to get it into factory spec with -.02 degrees of camber. From what i read you couldn't do that with your D2's with camber plates.
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
Boss chens are specifically designed for the a32/33 platform. Ie: soft spring rates 7kg mm front and 8 kg mm rear for the A32. They're not a universal coilover system like D2, Ksport made to fit the a32.

WRONG again.
I have a 8 6 spring rate with the D2's because thats what I wanted. You can PICK your spring rate when purchasing D2's. D2's are not a universal coilover system... you can customize them in many ways.

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Uhhh... no I definitely have my camber set at -.3 now.
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WRONG again.
I have a 8 6 spring rate with the D2's because thats what I wanted. You can PICK your spring rate when purchasing D2's. D2's are not a universal coilover system... you can customize them in many ways.

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you can do that with boss chen too? can you pick what type of oil that goes into the coilover?
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Ok, that was unclear with me because they are NOT in production.


Do you need to pick what kind of oil??? the Ksports and D2's are tested and proven... the gas works fine.
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
Last time i checked, 4 maximas are running boss chen coilovers, and non have had a single problem with them.
how did you figure i got the coilovers from "that" member? I got my coilovers from Larrio.
4 whole people huh? Wow, you really have the market cornered there. You know, I ran Tein HA coilovers on my 240 for 3 years without a single problem. During that time, others had them rust to pieces, seals blow out, adjustment rings break, and numerous other problems. So you have 4 people, all in your little clique, and thats a test of there performance? I'm sure they were designed just for the maxima, this is the only coilover boss chen makes? The only suspension product they make? If not, thats a stretch on the truth. Any suspension system started off with a design that was modified to work on an individual application. You try to make it sound like these coilovers are a revolutionary development that use a totally unique design to the maxima. Please. Go on any major suspension makers website and you can see the same basic design in everything they make, so once again, get over yourself. And I do know who you got these through, quit trying to run the subject around in circles. You got them from Larrio who got them from Andy. I also know who you direct people to, since last time you posted about this you used pictures hosted by that persons company and posted his email address to contact for purchase, which is why you were banned before. Until these see widespread production and use, outside of the circle jerk you have going on, the credability of these above any other coilover system will continue to be null and void. Its bad enough that this company has a history of copying others products and lableing them as there own, 'Oh, its totally new and of our own design and specification'. Sure, sure. There are plenty of companies out there willing to slap another name on there product and ship it out. Look at the multitude of companies selling the EXACT same product on ebay with different paint and stickers. wow, revolutionary. For all anyone knows, these are rebadged from some company in taiwan, new sticker, paint, walla, go boss chen
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here we go again with this Boss Chen owns Ksports and D2's deal again !

in case u missed it, he was trying to choose between Ksports and D2's.

end of bashing now........
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uhhhh, lots of d2 and k sports talk, what about jic? i got em, hope i didn t end up spending an extra 300 buks for nothing when i could have had k sports instead?
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I would pick the Ksports over the D2s....I mean my D2s made noises (prob cuz it was first line of production) while my Ksports are dead silent....I'm sure by now, the D2 problems have been resolved...but i'd still pick the Ksports just cuz...the alan bolts weren't favored by me
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thanks a lot steven88 for the comparison..and thanks to everyone else that helped..im going to be ordering the k sports



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