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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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First and last intake question from me ever!

i know stock is better.. but, what part from the stock intake setup do you get better low end from?

I have a short ram set up.. and an owner of a 4th gen is telling me if i use the stock rubber mid section with my short ram mid set up i wont loose the low end power and still gain mid to high end power.. is this true?
and if not what part of the stock set up gives you the low end that the short ram doesnt?

This will be my only intake question ever so dont flip out.. i have yet to see someone ask this so take it easy on me .. thanks! Also i dont have the stock mid section so dont tell me to try it out and let you know!
Old Dec 16, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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I have seen this question asked before.
Old Dec 16, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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Supposedly the accordian looking resonator... slows the air down.. or something, so what your saying sounds right but I dont know if keeping that stock rubber part will keep the "low end". Careful, you do have an automatic, dont want to losy ANY low end...
Old Dec 16, 2005 | 03:21 PM
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Leave everything the way it is, if you have all the stock intake parts still on your car! You will never loose low end that way. Having a short ram air with the conical airfilter exposed to the hot engine compartment air is bad for perforance as your intake is sucking in hot air. If you have missing stock intake parts, then you may look for them in the wrecking yard or check in the 4th gen classifieds.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:07 PM
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Go find a stock midpipe and put it on...you won't regret it.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:20 PM
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where does one find a stock midpipe?
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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where does one find a stock midpipe?
junkyard, dealers, classifieds on here....
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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ok so after testing a total of 4 times ( 2 for each set up )

Me and a buddy of mine came to the conclusion...

1. Im not sure how the stock intake feels because iv never had one.

2. With the aftermarket short ram set up with aftermarket cone filter and pop charger.. the Maxima lost much low end power and throttle respose.

3. With the same set up as #2^.. ( and stock rubber mid section connected to the throttle body first ) then the aftermarket mid pipe (short ram) and cone filter with pop charger. I gained back alot of low end power, throttle response is much quicker, and uphill driving is much quicker.

So the conclusion is..

If you have a short ram setup ( aftermarket mid-pipe)
Then you should atleast try this out with the stock rubber peice connected first.. you will notice a gain in low end and will keep the gains in mid and high end!
Enjoy. 96customax.. happy holidays
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 01:52 PM
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That's been discussed in countless threads, tried and proven. However stock is still the best and you will realize this when summer comes. That conical filter will start injesting very hot air, from inside the engine compartment, into your engine especially in stop and go traffic and it will start bogging it down. Then you will understand why having the airbox is necessary. Then you will wonder, what if you run an intake tube from the fender area, where cold air can be had, into the airbox?



Originally Posted by 96customax
ok so after testing a total of 4 times ( 2 for each set up )

Me and a buddy of mine came to the conclusion...

1. Im not sure how the stock intake feels because iv never had one.

2. With the aftermarket short ram set up with aftermarket cone filter and pop charger.. the Maxima lost much low end power and throttle respose.

3. With the same set up as #2^.. ( and stock rubber mid section connected to the throttle body first ) then the aftermarket mid pipe (short ram) and cone filter with pop charger. I gained back alot of low end power, throttle response is much quicker, and uphill driving is much quicker.

So the conclusion is..

If you have a short ram setup ( aftermarket mid-pipe)
Then you should atleast try this out with the stock rubber peice connected first.. you will notice a gain in low end and will keep the gains in mid and high end!
Enjoy. 96customax.. happy holidays
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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So if I took my air box off and just put a cone filter in its place I lost some power?
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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I have seen this question asked before
And I've seen it answered here before too.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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PR-style CAI with stock resonator > *.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
PR-style CAI with stock resonator > *.
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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The full PR CAI is worth it strictly for sound for the 1.179435 lbs-tq that you lose.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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The full PR CAI is worth it strictly for sound for the 1.179435 lbs-tq that you lose.
And the .932475 whp you gain ...


It's too loud IMO .. I've dynotested that b!sh on a 3.5, and yeilded 80% sound increase and less than a whp ...
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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I like it. It's subdued under 3.5k and roaring when you're racing.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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But you know me... As quiet as can be squeezing as much HP as humanely possible while sounding near stock.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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so will you lose horse power on a 4th gen with a FULL cold air induction ?
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxima-4DSC
so will you lose horse power on a 4th gen with a FULL cold air induction ?
It depends on the brand.

As nismology stated earlier. This has been deemed the best of all worlds.
PR-style CAI with stock resonator > *.
PR = Place Racing.. This can be bought from Cattman, or a knock off may be had from ebay. AEM CAI for an A32 is Stay away from it, its placement alone should be enough to deter you.


Originally Posted by JClaw
I like it. It's subdued under 3.5k and roaring when you're racing.
This man has a 3.5L, and could actually lose a few ft/lbs in order to catch better traction, but as far as the 3.0 is concerned(and youMaxima-4DSC), PR CAI style w/stock resonator >* --
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:47 PM
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If you want sound get the intake, if you want power get a turbo. These threads make my head hurt.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by devilz05
If you want sound get the intake, if you want power get a turbo. These threads make my head hurt.
What if someone doesn't want turbo, and wants to stay N/A?

For that matter, if you want more power, get a different car.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
What if someone doesn't want turbo, and wants to stay N/A?

For that matter, if you want more power, get a different car.
I was making a point, the fact that I said turbo is irrelevant really. Coould have said Supercharger, Y-Pipe, 20 mexicans pushing your car from behind....
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by devilz05
20 mexicans pushing your car from behind....
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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:09 PM
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oo i get it the MEX means mexican..your mexican nmexmax?? i didnt know that
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
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Don't worry, my boss is Mexican and I do all -his- *****work.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:30 PM
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oo i get it the MEX means mexican..your mexican nmexmax?? i didnt know that


I just thought I'd stirr something up since I'm bored. But the Mex in Nmex = New Mexico ... Nmex for short .. Im a New Mexico Max owner
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 2 Da Max
oo i get it the MEX means mexican..your mexican nmexmax?? i didnt know that
Originally Posted by NmexMAX
Location: Espanola, NM


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Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:42 PM
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I just thought I'd stirr something up since I'm bored. But the Mex in Nmex = New Mexico ... Nmex for short .. Im a New Mexico Max owner
Dude that's brilliant. I never realized that. I thought you had fallen asleep on the keyboard and when you woke up, you had already registered.

I know that's what happened to me.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
Dude that's brilliant. I never realized that. I thought you had fallen asleep on the keyboard and when you woke up, you had already registered.

I know that's what happened to me.
Am I the only one on the .Org who made the connection.....ever?
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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i agree with Nismology if ur going to do anything at all true CAI with stock resonator...u could prolly make own out of some 90 degree elbows from home depot....
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 08:12 PM
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If I was designing an intake I wouldn't use 90 degree angles. Straightest path to cold air is always the best.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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i am just sayin he could make his own using 90 elbow....he can cur them to 75 or if they sell 45s .....i wouldnt design on with 90s either but u need to start somewhere
Old Dec 19, 2005 | 01:16 AM
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If I was to ever try the CAI set-up, I'd go to a muffler shop and have them bend me a 3" exhaust pipe. Attach the upper end of that pipe to a 3" air bypass valve, then to the MAF adapter. The air filter obviously connects to the lower end of the intake pipe. Then wrap the intake pipe with exhaust wrap to keep the heat inside the engine compartment from transferring onto the metal intake pipe and heating up the air passing thru it.
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