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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:27 AM
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Tein S Techs owners... Good or Bad?

Hey Guys, Just looking for some feedback from people who are using Tein S Techs springs and if they've had other springs in the past to compare, thanks in advance
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 10:55 AM
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I just swapped my D2s for Tein S-Tech with KYB AGX and I like them quite a bit. To me they are a really good street setup but I could see how some people would think they are a tad harsh.

I haven't played with the dampening yet so I don't really know their limit yet as far as handling goes. My front is also a bit lower than the rear (5sp).
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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swapped out D2's for S-Techs? why would you go that way? most people would go the other. but i love how mine ride. yeah, a bit harsh, but i think much better than stock.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:40 PM
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I had them they road great. I always heard from others that they were harsh, bad ride, but the majority who said that never had S-tech. Bought them and had them on, and they werent anywhere near as bad as I thought. Still pretty damn smooth, I thank stock wheels for that but I never regreated purchasing them one bit.

And hot damn I love the stance it gave my car.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way
I just swapped my D2s for Tein S-Tech with KYB AGX and I like them quite a bit. To me they are a really good street setup but I could see how some people would think they are a tad harsh.

I haven't played with the dampening yet so I don't really know their limit yet as far as handling goes. My front is also a bit lower than the rear (5sp).
A step in the wrong direction. Not enough suspension travel at that low of a ride height with a spring/strut combo. Furthermore, Illuminas > AGX...
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:49 PM
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A step in the wrong direction. Not enough suspension travel at that low of a ride height with a spring/strut combo. Furthermore, Illuminas > AGX...
I had plenty travel with the S-techs. Fronts had lots of travel, and with Ben's mounts in the rear, had no problems?

Did you have S-tech and have travel issues?
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 12:57 PM
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I have S-tech/Tokico blues on my turbo car and had GC-AGX on my NA car. S-techs are not low enough for my taste, though they ride much nicer over rough roads than the GCs did. I'd say they aren't bad springs as long as you don't want too dramatic of a drop. I know Tein advertises them as something like a 2.2" drop but I say that is simply not the case, it's more like 1.7" I'd estimate. My GCs were down 2.75" and the Stechs are nowhere near the drop of the GCs, a full inch difference approximately, rather than the 1/2" difference you'd get by just looking at the supposed drop numbers.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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I had plenty travel with the S-techs. Fronts had lots of travel, and with Ben's mounts in the rear, had no problems?

Did you have S-tech and have travel issues?
No, but i'm on sprint/AGX and hit the bumpstops from time to time. Aren't the front drops similar between the two? How are you sure you've never hit the stops?
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A step in the wrong direction. Not enough suspension travel at that low of a ride height with a spring/strut combo. Furthermore, Illuminas > AGX...
Your telling me this as if I did this as a race move.

I haven't bottomed out this setup once and it is more than enough handling for the street.

The only time the D2s really shined for me (over the Teins) was high-speed stability, which is awesome, but I don't need that right now.

Believe me, I know in great detail what I have lost/gain in changing setups. For whatever reason I don't imagine it being my last, but for the time being I really like it.

As far as AGX vs. Illumina I haven't been able to compare side by side but my ride is firm while not being jarring. It is very similar to the settings (half stiff) I used to run on my coilovers.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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I've only bottomed out once or twice from going over a road patch I didn't see in time.

S-Tech's are not that low the CMS springs are lower.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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No, but i'm on sprint/AGX and hit the bumpstops from time to time. Aren't the front drops similar between the two? How are you sure you've never hit the stops?
Front drop on a sprint I believe is 1.7 vs S-tech's 2.2. Hitting the bump stops is a very distictive feeling, I never hit it, but I've felt the bump stop when I installed them and hitting that stiff bump. . . you'd have to notice it.

The S-techs have a lower drop but a softer spring rate than the sprint, so the ride will be smoother and the springs will allow for more travel than a stiffer spring.


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I've only bottomed out once or twice from going over a road patch I didn't see in time.

S-Tech's are not that low the CMS springs are lower.
Damn I didnt know there was anything lower than S-tech.


a canuk with canuk springs . . .
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They def. arn't the lowest all around but in the front they are prob. close to the lowest with a spring/strut setup. The rear isnt very low at all.
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
Front drop on a sprint I believe is 1.7 vs S-tech's 2.2.

There's no way the S-techs are a 2.2" drop man. I know they advertise it as such but it's simply not the case. They are more like 1.7ish. If it were warmer or at least less snowy outside I'd go measure it, as I have a stock maxima and a maxima with Stechs parked next to eachother outside.
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Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
Front drop on a sprint I believe is 1.7 vs S-tech's 2.2. Hitting the bump stops is a very distictive feeling, I never hit it, but I've felt the bump stop when I installed them and hitting that stiff bump. . . you'd have to notice it.
I think you're mistaken. The sprint front drop is at least 2".

The S-techs have a lower drop but a softer spring rate than the sprint, so the ride will be smoother and the springs will allow for more travel than a stiffer spring.
Suspension travel has nothing to do with how stiff a spring is. Furthermore, a low, soft spring is the worst combination there is.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
I think you're mistaken. The sprint front drop is at least 2".


Suspension travel has nothing to do with how stiff a spring is. Furthermore, a low, soft spring is the worst combination there is.

Well the Sprints could be 2" I dont know for sure but I always here it was pretty much the same drop as the S-tech.I was saying the S-techs are softer springs by comparison to the sprint srings. But it would be a bad combination to have a very soft spring and a very low drop, bad combination. I found the S-techs to be good and stiff enough to handle most of whats out there.

Dont get me wrong, I know they arent the best springs out there, but I considered it a good purchase.

Also if the spring rate is softer it would allow for the spring to compress/decompress more correct? If this being true then why would it not allow more susension travel if it will give more (compres/decompress) than another spring that wont give as much?

Explaing the harsher (so I've heard) ride with the sprints over S-techs.

Originally Posted by Nealoc187
There's no way the S-techs are a 2.2" drop man. I know they advertise it as such but it's simply not the case. They are more like 1.7ish. If it were warmer or at least less snowy outside I'd go measure it, as I have a stock maxima and a maxima with Stechs parked next to eachother outside.
There advertised as a 2.2" drop. It could be a bit less, I never went out and measured I just went by what I saw listed on their website.
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Also if the spring rate is softer it would allow for the spring to compress/decompress more correct? If this being true then why would it not allow more susension travel if it will give more (compres/decompress) than another spring that wont give as much?
A stiffer spring will have a tendency to limit the up and down motion, yes, but this is to your advantage to keep you off the bumpstops on severe bumps. Even so, the only thing that changes suspension travel is the ride height.

Explaing the harsher (so I've heard) ride with the sprints over S-techs.
That's simple. Higher spring rate...
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 05:32 PM
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A stiffer spring will have a tendency to limit the up and down motion, yes, but this is to your advantage to keep you off the bumpstops on severe bumps. Even so, the only thing that changes suspension travel is the ride height.
Good point. So a good spring rate is desired. One that will be stiff enough to keep you from bottoming out every other bump, but still soft enought to allow some travel and try to have the smoothest ride.


I feel the S-tech accomplish this, soft for a decent ride, stiff enough to give a semi-sporty feel, and keep you off the bumpstops.
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i like them...i am only selling because my friend got me good deal on some D2s
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
There's no way the S-techs are a 2.2" drop man. I know they advertise it as such but it's simply not the case. They are more like 1.7ish. If it were warmer or at least less snowy outside I'd go measure it, as I have a stock maxima and a maxima with Stechs parked next to eachother outside.
i think your drop wasn't as significant due to you having a manual tranny, and because its a few hundred pounds lighter......the car isn't as low

however, autos will get a greater drop
Old Dec 17, 2005 | 09:05 PM
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I will be taking some shots of the Illumina suspension, and then Stechs possibly this coming week..
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I've been riding that setup for awhile now, on 18" chromes. The ride is harsh on bad roads, but when the ride is smooth you don't even realize your lowered. I know that sounds almost stupid considering any car rides nicer on good roads, but it is a big difference, and i'm sure on smaller wheels/thicker tires that would change. Day to day, it's not that bad, and the look makes up for it. Although i've only experienced stock and my current setup.
Old Dec 18, 2005 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
Front drop on a sprint I believe is 1.7 vs S-tech's 2.2. Hitting the bump stops is a very distictive feeling, I never hit it, but I've felt the bump stop when I installed them and hitting that stiff bump. . . you'd have to notice it.
sprints are advertised as 2" drop all around but on my auto they dropped the car about 2.25" if not a bit more. look:




they were a bit harsh but very liveable. i've never had the s-techs but have read that they are ride a bit higher than the sprints. i only hit the bumbstops a few times, really only when driving over a really nasty pothole pretty fast.

good struts are a must. the AGX are great, i had them for quite some time. i've got illuminas and maxspeeds now and am loving the smoother ride, but there's a bit more dive when i'm really pushing it.
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