I am looking to make a ground kit and am wondering what is needed to complete the process? I went to home depot tonight and looked at 6 guage wiring but it seemed stiff compared to amp wire. I like the looks of amp wiring that is see through but I am sure it more expensive and can only be purchased at a audio store. I have about 16 ft of 8 guage amp wire. Will this be just as good and work just as good as 6 guage?

Which is it I need and how much of it? What else is needed beside wire and fish eye connectors?

 

What you need is a computer and a credit card to get it off the net. It is kind of cheaper when you go here Try it out.

 

Im looking to add more points then probably is what included in the kit. Id like to know where the mounting points on this kit is at

 

1. Dont buy that kit (Regular Price 99.99 haha that must be one expensive Nismo sticker)
2. There arent that many points to connect to that actually make a difference

 

and the plate is aluminium. thats not a great conductor right? Get the kit from matt blehm and support a local .org'er.

here's the link:
http://www.mattblehm.com/enginegrounding.htm
seems like a reasonable price to me.

 

good point on that nismo sticker. I don't know.. I want to get that one cause it looks decent, plus another orger gave the link in some other thread.

 

I have that one and it looks pretty nice. Id say get it if you'd rather just spend the 30ish bucks for it than going out and locating temp resistant wiring ,the connectors and crimping it yourself and then the bolts and what not.
The conductivity of aluminum is not that siginificantly less than copper.

 

Can anyone give me the answer to my ques

 

it might cost just as much to make it as you can buy it

 

Guys I like to make stuff on my own and want a simple answer to my wiring ques. I dont want one of those universal kits where the wires are so long you have to wrap them up and try to hide them. I want to make a nice kit with a good look of style like this one

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/442543/16

 

all the parts you need can be found at www.partsexpress.com. they have the 4 or 8 gauge power cables and terminals for cheap.

 

lol...i really dont think you guys are understanding the question he is asking here...HE DOESNT WANT TO BUY ANYTHING! i am in the same boat...i have access to all the wire/terminals/crimpers that i want, so i plan on making my own kit. Mxrider...i would simply try to follow the factory grounds/power wires as they are and replace them with your own stuff...also the write-up you linked to seems to show most of the ground points so you should be alright. when i get time to upgrade my power/ground wires ill do a write up for you guys so there is a way to do it WITHOUT buying a kid from some dude online

 

Figure out where you want extra ground points, measure the distances, and buy some wire. Don't forget the shrink wrap.

 

Good gauge wire (thick wiring used for grounding car system) and wire connectors from Pep Boys or Auto Zone is all you need.

 

No one has answered my ques yet. I am wanting to know what guage wire and if I want to go with wiring from home depot or wiring from an audio store.

 

searching is not hard http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=365813

 

8 guage red amp wire and gold conectors is what I used. 16'' will be more than enough. You want to make a daisy chain of five wires. Lay out the wire before you cut so you can follow whatever paths you want. It is a good idea to follow existing wire paths. The first runs from the driver side strut tower to the battery negative terminal harness. Number two goes from the battery negative terminal harness to one of the throtle body mounting bolts. Number three goes from the throtle body to the intake maniflod center monting bolt. The forth wire goes from the intake manifold to the engine block. To make it easy, you can use eather the front timing chain cover bolt or the open threaded hole towards the front. The last one goes from the block to the passenger side strut tower. Be sure to clean all of the mounting locations well, sand paint where necasary. Tie all wires into place to ensure they don't get damaged.

 

You didnt even mention the important points as in the alternator and lights

 

You can ground the alternator, starter and lights seperatly if you wish. You can even use the OEM ground points. Theses systems are all well grounded though. If they do have a problem try cleaning the grounds. Do not tie these into grounding system loop, this will cause feedback. If you don't believe me try it, you can hear it through your speakers.

By the way,
your welcome for all the FREE help.

 

www.mattblehm.com

 

Honestly

You have all the information you need. No one is gonna walk you thru this step by step and tell you how many inches each wire is and where it needs to go. Wolfeg gave you good points to start at, so just start with those and add what you think is neccesary. Its not that difficult

And if your not up for it, mrgones suggestion of the blehmco kit is a good choice too. He has a 3rd 4th and 5th gen kit

 

I hear ya.... you go help a guy out and you get **** ... wuzzup

Great post wolfeg ... (I cut/pasted it into my little cheat-file)

 

If you know what points need to be grouned, why don't you get off your lazy a$$ and measure the distances for yourself.

Moreever, if you even looked at the website (blehmco), you could look at the pics and figure out what you needed.

 

I just made my bosses today. Ordered 4 gauge off the net, while back for my 300zx have extra. Used copper connectors, shrink wrap. Measure and cut. Easy breezy.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/442543/16

 

I got it all figured out asking for the wire size etc. If 8 guage is just as good as 6 guage and all? If I should buy home depot wire or audio wire?

Catch my drift I want those 2 simple questions answered for my grounding kit and I will be done

 

How does the Nismo Grounding kit compare to the Stillen or HKS kit?
If it's the same performance increase then I am definitely in!

My only question is... Does it need to be connected directly to Battery post? If so, does it have an additional contact point for my other cable?

I have a multi tap on my battery for my stereo...am I gonna have an issue?

and will this all work on my 99 SE?

Thanks,

Judas

 

Yes, 8 guage is as good if you have enough points. You can also use 4 guage. I chose 8 because this is a secondary ground and not a replacement for the primary grounding wire. It also looks good since it is thinner. Use the audio wire like I did ( see my post above). The car audio cable is more flexable and can be snaked around more easily. It is also better shielded. I spent $60 american at Ultimate Electronics for all the needed components. One spoll Monster red amp power cable and five pairs of gold conectors. Cuting and install took about 1 hour to install.
If you really want to make it fun, wrap it aquarium tubing. It looks cool though it might melt.
It will work on your 99, it did for mine. Your battery cable conection will give you a nice mounting location.

 

Its pretty much all the same stuff.. the nismo kit isn`t even a real kit by nismo. As long as you have good contacts to the chassis and its good copper wire of a decent gauge it really doesn't matter. Most kits connect directly to the battery post and if you`re buying of of those kits, you could undo your stereo wire and connect it to a space on the circular disk with a bolt instead.

 

Thats my car. the red cable just pops in the engine bay

 

Thanks Aussie..

After searching the K2 website, I figured that the Kit was a universal Multi-Tap with a NISMO sticker on it.
If I were to invest in it, than I would have to put the clasps on the ends of my stereo connections.

My Other question was...how does this rate against the $129 Stillen Groudning kit? I like the K2 kit as far as looks...but I do prefer Stillen Products. What would you do? You remarked that any 8 gauge copper wire would suffice if grounded to the right locations... I am so confused...

 

To directly answer your questions Mxrider52: 6 gauge is heavier (better) than 8 gauge; the smaller the gauge number the thicker the wire and the more conductive it is. I used 4 AWG wiring - it may be deemed as overkill to some but I thought it better to have it be heavier than needed than not heavy enough.

Also I used amplifier power wire for a few different reasons: flexibility, looks, price, and quality. You can get 4 AWG for about $1.25 to $2.00 per foot online and possibly at your local car audio shop. You can use other types if you like so long as it's good quality copper wire. A friend of mine used 2 AWG welding cable and it worked just fine.

As a suggestion, use crimp-on style ring connectors and crimp them and solder them for a connection that will never come loose. I also shrink wrapped my connections for better looks and for an extra secure connection. I hope this helps you and answers your questions. Good luck.

 

Sorry, repost.

 

any body have pictures of the grounding points?

 

I dont think it matters that much, really.

As long as it touches the metal, right?

Not 100% sure, but thats what my grounding kit seems to do.

BTW, where in Hawaii are you from?

 

I guess I'll just look at the ground points and just make my own.

On Oahu. lol

 

Yeah, i think as long as its touching the body, itll be fine.
You might wait for other peoples' input though, im not that great at electricals.

What city are you from?
I'm in Mililani.

 

you can also get "welding cable" from a welding supply shop
its very flexible
these kits seem to come mostly in 4 ga

 

I just made this:



and based it off this:
http://www.activetuning.com/products...stallation.php
I used 4 gauge amp wire (bought 5 feet, needed only 4'9" if you make it exactly as the active tunning kit is made), 8 - 4 gauge ring terminals, and some heat shrink. It took less than an hour to put together.
Now I just gotta find time to install it.