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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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4th gen tranny, weakspot?

I have read that the 4th gen tranny is "weak". What exactly is the problem with the transmission? Does it have a weak torque converter? Or do the actual gears go on them? Thanks
Old Mar 18, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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u talking about the auto right?
Old Mar 18, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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its weak 3rd gear, manuals are just more fun to drive and have 5 gears. People just really hate on the 4 gear autos. If you really want a 4th gen auto tranny to hold some power you need a VB and a tranny cooler. There is also a DR mod, i guess it helps the tranny when going WOT.
Old Mar 20, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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^yeah ahhh, no... You need to worry about auto trannys no matter what.
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i got my 2k1 motor and that is all the power im putting thru her with a tranny cooler. i see many 5sp problems as auto. The only thing is that 5sp have a clutch that you can replace easy. you blow a clutch in a auto you gotta spend 650 plus getting a used tranny. at least i got a 2nd trans so i have maybe a weekend of down time, but i think this one is gonna last long time.
Old Mar 21, 2006 | 03:49 AM
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they only way an auto tranny will last with mods, stage 2 vb mod, and tranny cooler. we are not toyota with they're bullet proof auto transmissions
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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If you go 3.5 or FI yes you would need to build that tranny up. I just work with what i got. also i already put so many mods into her it would be a waste to sell it to get a 5sp car. also i need more weight reduction, me out of 1st and 2nd is great to laugh at those manual drivers with auto hate! Its automagic baby thats right. im not a racer, i leave that to my friend with tons of money and 850 hp 350z TT. Rofl that thing is ****ing sick!
Old Mar 22, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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the 5spd is a POS too. They have differential bearing problems. I've personally seen 2 5th gen 5spds and another 2 4th gen 5spds have bearing problems. Nissan made a kick-@$$ engine, but the tranny was an afterthought.
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Originally Posted by SR-71 Blackbird
the 5spd is a POS too. They have differential bearing problems. I've personally seen 2 5th gen 5spds and another 2 4th gen 5spds have bearing problems. Nissan made a kick-@$$ engine, but the tranny was an afterthought.
Nissan doesn't make their manual trannies by the way...
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The AUTO IS BULLIT PROOF AND FOR "MAXGORDON" THAT SAid YOU NEED TO BUILD A TRANNY IF YOU DO A 3.5 SWAP, really??? its the same auto thats in a 2002-2005 that has a 4 speed auto! Please people do your research before you post things you don't know! The problem with 5 spds is if you do like lets say Execdy Clutch and a flywheel, its prone to fail, but the best thing to do is use Royal Purple or Redline MTL not MT 90... The **** helps your manual shift with out the norm grind and much easier to shift into gears... When I first bought my car back in 2002 I did 13 neutral slams, like and idiot!!! I admit... Car had 62,000 miles on it, I have sprayed 65 shot, and yes I do the DR MOD when spraying. IF I didn't the tranny would be toast, I have sprayed on my car over 40 times!!! The car has about 170,000 miles on it now and still runs strong tranny still shifts smooth.... Holds Ever gear, Chris my buddy with his 5 spd has had trouble with his, and Eric with his also had trouble before he sold it.
So the weak point of the maxima is a 5 spd !!!
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Old Mar 23, 2006 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Timz96SE
The AUTO IS BULLIT PROOF AND FOR "MAXGORDON" THAT SAid YOU NEED TO BUILD A TRANNY IF YOU DO A 3.5 SWAP, really??? its the same auto thats in a 2002-2005 that has a 4 speed auto! Please people do your research before you post things you don't know! The problem with 5 spds is if you do like lets say Execdy Clutch and a flywheel, its prone to fail, but the best thing to do is use Royal Purple or Redline MTL not MT 90... The **** helps your manual shift with out the norm grind and much easier to shift into gears... When I first bought my car back in 2002 I did 13 neutral slams, like and idiot!!! I admit... Car had 62,000 miles on it, I have sprayed 65 shot, and yes I do the DR MOD when spraying. IF I didn't the tranny would be toast, I have sprayed on my car over 40 times!!! The car has about 170,000 miles on it now and still runs strong tranny still shifts smooth.... Holds Ever gear, Chris my buddy with his 5 spd has had trouble with his, and Eric with his also had trouble before he sold it.
So the weak point of the maxima is a 5 spd !!!
So explain why having an Exedy clutch and flywheel makes a tranny prone to fail? And I believe exedy only makes a OEM replacement flywheel for Maxima's....
Old Mar 23, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Timz96SE
The AUTO IS BULLIT PROOF AND FOR "MAXGORDON" THAT SAid YOU NEED TO BUILD A TRANNY IF YOU DO A 3.5 SWAP, really??? its the same auto thats in a 2002-2005 that has a 4 speed auto! Please people do your research before you post things you don't know! The problem with 5 spds is if you do like lets say Execdy Clutch and a flywheel, its prone to fail, but the best thing to do is use Royal Purple or Redline MTL not MT 90... The **** helps your manual shift with out the norm grind and much easier to shift into gears... When I first bought my car back in 2002 I did 13 neutral slams, like and idiot!!! I admit... Car had 62,000 miles on it, I have sprayed 65 shot, and yes I do the DR MOD when spraying. IF I didn't the tranny would be toast, I have sprayed on my car over 40 times!!! The car has about 170,000 miles on it now and still runs strong tranny still shifts smooth.... Holds Ever gear, Chris my buddy with his 5 spd has had trouble with his, and Eric with his also had trouble before he sold it.
So the weak point of the maxima is a 5 spd !!!
I always used Redline MT-90 and had two bearing failures in my 2000 maxima. Exedy makes the OEM replacement. The only ways that I can think of that a clutch/flywheel could possiblycause a failure is if the flywheel blew up or if you were using a stage 3 clutch with slicks.
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Agreed on the auto stuff Tim

I don't know anything about the manual but I have beat the sheit out of 3 automatics now and have nothing but praise for their strength. I did blow one up but I blame myself for that by burning out with slicks in 3rd gear and hitting a massive patch of traction, I now burn out only in 1st.

They also don't need any strengthening, the DR mod is more than enough and its free. If they can take 150 shot of spray multiple times I would say they are pretty strong.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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When doing this DR mod, ive read your write up it says to keep adjusting it til it comes on just at WOT. you must be able to tell But how can you adjust a switch? i mean it justs a NC switch.
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Originally Posted by MaxGordon7
When doing this DR mod, ive read your write up it says to keep adjusting it til it comes on just at WOT. you must be able to tell But how can you adjust a switch? i mean it justs a NC switch.
You aren't adjusting the switch, you are adjusting the position of the switch in relation to the throttle.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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they only way an auto tranny will last with mods, stage 2 vb mod, and tranny cooler. we are not toyota with they're bullet proof auto transmissions
LMAO, that's all I got to say.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nismology
Nissan doesn't make their manual trannies by the way...

If I remember correctly, Its the same for the auto. Aisin (don't ask me what else they do) was the subcontractor for the 4-sp Auto tranny. TO be candid, leave her bone stock, and the tranny will last some decent time, be it auto or manual. Trouble is, Aisin didn't build the tranny to handle the power a modded VQ can put out, hence every other week a Dead Tranny Thread pops up....

BTW, the reason why Toyota trannys dont break is because , well ,has anyone ever seen a 300+ hp Camry? Thought not.....
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The only thing on a 4th gen max that isn't a weakspot, is the engine.


ooooh, the flames are coming.
Old Mar 26, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE Sz
The only thing on a 4th gen max that isn't a weakspot, is the engine.


ooooh, the flames are coming.
I'd have to say that the POS 5spd tranny is the weakest link and guaranteed to have a diff bearing failure. It's a total ******* disgrace and is the kind of sheit I would expect from GM, Ford, or Daimler. I could care less about window regulators, coils, O2 sensors, or a MAF going bad.
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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I thought only the 95 and 96 had diff bearing problems due to improper shimming.
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DAVE Sz
I thought only the 95 and 96 had diff bearing problems due to improper shimming.
I've had two 5th gen trannies go bad in my 2k maxima and one go bad in my 97 maxima.
Old Mar 27, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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thats why you guys need to get a 6 speed lol

but my comment on auto tranny. the i30 in my family is slipping and it is a 2k trann with about 30k. another max we had the auto tranny made whistling sounds. plus the auto tranny on long drives is horrible. the fluid gets hot and and the shifts become horrible. i cant comment on the 5 spd tranny because we never had one.
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