alright fellas I was talking to a few ppl and I'm hearing some mixed opinions on maxspeed springs. Most say harsh, which IMO usually means good in my case. But thing is a few ppl said they barely noticed a drop.

The purpose of this thread is to hear some opinions on them. So please feel free to compare them to other springs and or give me your personal opinion on using them. or even what you've heard would do. Lets try to keep it with experience though.. thanks.

 

YGWUP4 - Cheap springs do not give you good ride and handling.

There is a reason H&R and Eibach cost more. It's called engineering.

 

Can this not be answered here?

 

no it cant because I've already bought them and it doesnt say anything about them handling wize on there. I can probably sell them easily, but unless ppl have had first hand experience then I cant figure things out..

 

Then why did you buy them?

Seems like you may be doing this ass backwards.....

 

kinda gives off that M.O. doesn't it?.. Well now I'm at the stage where my koni's are sitting in one corner, maxspeeds in the other and I'm trying to find out if maxspeeds are as bad as they say.

 

i had maxspeed and the drop was not enough, so i went down with s-tech

 

PM sent regarding question.

 

I guess my point was that you purchased before you researched which is suprising considering your level of activity on the forum.

 

well I read everything on that maxmods page for suspension and read some threads on suspensions and I didnt see too mahy ppl downing the maxspeeds so I got them.. only now am I hearing these bad things about them.

I mean you know me freeway I research my crap, but sometimes.. fine most of the time I overlook small things and thats the problem. Anyways whats the story with your springs, last time I looked you said they were and I quote "too soft." Why'd you switch back from coilovers in the first place?

 

Again your research is lacking, I am actually pretty happy with my setup. It did however take some adjusting here and there to satisfy me.

First of all, I was coming from a high-rate linear spring with the D2's. Going to a (substantially) softer progressive spring was quite a change. I really did not feel safe pushing the car for the first 1-2 months after I swapped to the Tein/AGX setup.

The odd thing with the S-Tech's is that they are pretty soft (for how low they are) but as shock travel decreases and the spring compresses the springrate is MUCH higher. This took some getting used to as the car could actually grip very well in higher speed corners. Between learning the characteristics of the progressive springs and adjusting dampening settings I now have a setup that is very compliant on the street and not as far as I once thought behind my coiliver setup.

The limiting factor of the S-Tech's is how much body roll they can allow. On quick transitions weight transfer can upset traction. With the D2's this problem was nearly non-existant. The damn thing would stay flat at 40 or 140.

 

I swapped out the D2's because I was having minor noise issues. I did not have the time or another setup to put on the car to fully service them so I decided to move to a more streetable setup for awhile.

I can tell you with near certainty that this will not be my last suspension...

I am thinking more and more that the Tein coilovers may be a happy medium between high liner rates and everyday compliance (due to stock mounts).

 

Enough of me whoring this thread.... here are some links:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....xspeed+springs

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....xspeed+springs

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....xspeed+springs

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....xspeed+springs



Some conflicting opinions on ride quality, but most say it just eliminates the 4X4 not really a major drop by any means.

 

I've read that before ya damn post *****.. haha and why would I do research into your suspension, you're just Ben "the informative ***** of the .org." You should go for something more like MDeezy's title -"the .orgs own philosoper." Right now you're in with NMexMax, Neal, Nissan 6 and those guys. All we need is more sarcastic orgers like the ones previously mentioned.

Btw, I like what I'm hearing from ppl on dropped on progress springs.

On another note it seems it isn't really the handling of the maxspeeds thats terrible its that ppl dont seem to like th drop, "its not enough." Frankyl though its the same as the H&R and many ssem to love that setup, but its softer? Right so the maxspeeds drop you the same height as the H&R and are stiffer, this in the past seemed like a good thing to me and so I bought them.

Perhaps I should just try them out for myself. Damn orgers all making me feel like I don't have the right setup lmao.

 

Oh and how much are your suspension mounts as of now?..

 

Who the **** is Ben?

I put those threads up because I didn't see this guy: under your username.

The LT rear mounts were sold.

 

I won't lie I was under the impression that, that was indeed your name, it would've made sense at least. But you should be in bed! And no after all this time I still don't have my little "I support Maxima.org ;D" guy.

 

MZMTG is the only Ben I know on here....

Not really trying to be a ***** but come on, you bought everything THEN asked if it sucked? I tried to give you some more opinions instead of just telling you to search because I know that you can't. The rest of the older threads were just more of the same.

Plenty of people (JSutter comes to mind) hate S-Tech's to death and talk about doing nothing but riding on bumpstops and blah blah, mine ride very well and also have very high handling limits. Try them out since you have them, give impressions after you have had them installed for a period of time.

 

now theres some damn good advice, I knew if I asked enough questions or frustrated you enough you'd throw out some good advice.

- Dylan

 

i never liked the maxspeeds when i had em on my car. kinda cheap if you ask me, then again, i did get it for free.

 

Is the reason ppl hate them because they're cheap, cause thats not a valid reason in my eyes.. yet ppl keep telling me that.

Never the less I'm gonna drop myself on them first, then I'm gonna go progress.

 

i suggest going progress first to save yourself labor. youll thank yourself.

 

Suck techs ftl
I had CMS springs which is a 2.0" drop. I had about 3/8" of wheel travel before hitting the bump stop. You may as well just drive on the bumps insted.

 

There we are!

I wouldn't make things up, if they sucked I would let everyone know. I'm no fanboy of Tein and to be honest I didn't expect much from them when I installed them. You don't know me and that's fine, but for the people on here that know me, they know I am very particular about things.

I am not saying you are wrong, but I know for sure that I am not having the same experience you did with them. They would be gone.

 

I highly doubt BlackCat had the same experience you did as well.....

 

I love the .org, whenever you want to be completely confused or don't want a direct answer to a question this is the place haha..

Thanks anyways guys,I think out of everyone Happyricefob gave me the best answer through a PM basically agreeing that the drop rate is almost identical to H&R, but quite a bit stiffer. So basically if you're complaining of the drop height of the maxspeed spring my thoughts are you're basically saying you don't like H&R's or any other spring with 1.5F and 1.3B drop with a bit stiffer spring which is better for handling.

Mt final decision is maxspeeds are a good spring if you dont wanna huge drop and to wear out CV joints, axles and so on. Though I dont hear too many bad things from springs anyways, mostly just coilovers.

But when I get another set of SSR Comp Anthracites to replace the stolen ones or if I decide to go with Miglia EV-S's then I'll probably go progress. Thanks again.

Feel free to keep the opinions coming though.

 

there's a $50 difference between h&r's and maxspeeds. if $50 is a dealbreaker when considering parts for your car, don't mod your car. that being said, maxspeeds are pretty ok.

i've only had sprints and maxspeeds so i can only speak for those. the sprints handled a little bit better but were a little harsher. I also had different struts at the time. i went from sprint/AGX to maxspeed/illuminas. the second setup handles almost as well and is a bit smoother. they are both harsher than stock, obviously, but are smoother than the ride in aggressive performance cars such as the s2000 or 350z track.

the ride is controlled and balanced, very little squat in corners, competent handling. i'm happy with both setups. i miss how low the sprints were as far as looks but the maxspeeds are smoother and ride taller, so i have far fewer problems when it comes to winter driving or driving on poor roads as far as ride height and suspension travel. the maxspeeds don't seem like they are as low as advertised and the sprints are actually lower.

the maxspeeds are perhaps a 1.25" drop, whereas sprints were closer to a 2.25" or 2.5" drop.

just my two cents

 

thanks man, I'll keep that in mind.

 

Im not saying your an idiot, nor do I have anything against you or anyone else with or without s tech, Im just saying all s techs are good for is looks. They are ok for the street but the ride gets bad over broken pavement or pot holes. Wheel/shock travel is very limited on Nissans, and if my car is .5" higher for that extra bit I'll take it.

 

I really didn't take it that way, the forum is about sharing knowledge and experiences. In this case mine are not similar to yours, that's all.

 

Ive had the maxspeed for 2 years on GR2's. Rides fine and have had no problems. On my box is said ISO 9001 certified just like the H&rs.

 

Yeah as do mine.. they're engineering alright its just ppl have opinions thats all.