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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 01:15 PM
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i used to keep the radar at (1), until my freind told me, the 360 wont work b/c the seats are blocking it. so i moved it to (3)... but at (3) another freind says all the cops will see it...

where do you keep your radar?
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by DooBall


i used to keep the radar at (1), until my freind told me, the 360 wont work b/c the seats are blocking it. so i moved it to (3)... but at (3) another freind says all the cops will see it...

where do you keep your radar?
The cops can easily see it from any position,so you might as well put it where it is the most effective. 3 it is.
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 02:02 PM
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I have my 8500 right below the rear view mirror on the driver's side of the car. It is low enough so that the eye can see out the back of the car with being blocked by the mirror. If you go higher then you don't get the 360 and if you get it in the tinted area, they say the detector doesn't work as well. Like medic said put it at 3, but you can move it up a bit and to the right to reach it better.
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 02:56 PM
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Mine is next to the sunglass holder resting slightly on the rear view mirror, Otherwise while driving the radar dectector shakes. Radar detectors do penetrate through tinted glass. Mine works b!tchen...
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by DooBall


i used to keep the radar at (1), until my freind told me, the 360 wont work b/c the seats are blocking it. so i moved it to (3)... but at (3) another freind says all the cops will see it...

where do you keep your radar?


I keep mine right next to the rearview mirror, at the edge of the sunstrip and next to the EZPass. I run the cable trough the headliner. I also got the remote mounted above the VIN # and under the inspection sitcker. Impossible to see when parked in plain daylight. Let alone other drivers.

I'm lucky enough to live near a middle school. So I get to test the detector just about every morning thanks to the cops hidding in the bushes.
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 04:05 PM
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The higher the better, and cops don't give a crap if you have it low or high, they will still write you a ticket. Anyways, actually 3 is still low, right under the Rearview mirror with just the face sticking out is the best spot.

Originally posted by DooBall


i used to keep the radar at (1), until my freind told me, the 360 wont work b/c the seats are blocking it. so i moved it to (3)... but at (3) another freind says all the cops will see it...

where do you keep your radar?
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 05:16 PM
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Guys, I have mine sitting right on the dash on top of the clock with double sided tape. Is that going to be effective?
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by DooBall


i used to keep the radar at (1), until my freind told me, the 360 wont work b/c the seats are blocking it. so i moved it to (3)... but at (3) another freind says all the cops will see it...

where do you keep your radar?
Mine is in the 2 position. I used to hang it from the visor but I got tired of the wire distracting me. If you don't live in VA, you don't have to worry whether the cops can see it or not.
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 05:25 PM
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Guys, I have mine sitting right on the dash on top of the clock with double sided tape. Is that going to be effective?
That will work. If your radar picks up signals from behind you, there might be some issue. I think it will pick up signals regardless tho.
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 05:37 PM
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That will work. If your radar picks up signals from behind you, there might be some issue. I think it will pick up signals regardless tho.
Thats what I thought too! Thanks!
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 08:37 PM
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Guys, I have mine sitting right on the dash on top of the clock with double sided tape. Is that going to be effective?
I feel that position does reduce effectiveness. If you look right in front of the detector you will see the windshield wipers in the way. I have my detector about two inches above the clock at about the #2 position on the pic. Your detector is seing nothing but windshield wipers on top of the clock.

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Old Jun 27, 2001 | 09:10 PM
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I have mine right about the mirror and its spliced in to the my right mad light so its a nice on /off switch.
Also no problems with detection of radar
Old Jun 27, 2001 | 11:45 PM
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I have mine slighly above the windshield wipers right in the middle. U shouldnt worry about the cops seein the radar bc it is legal anywhere except if u live in Washington D.C. or Virgina.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 07:35 PM
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i work at a shop that installs TVs, navigation, and alarms into cars and one of the technicians was talking about taking the "eyes" out of a radar detector and rewiring it so he could place the eyes anywhere he wanted and have the actual unit hidden down low somewhere. do you think this is possible?

by the way, what would be the point of detecting radar behing you? there must ne a reason. im just curious.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 07:39 PM
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i live and work in virginia by the way
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:06 PM
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Originally posted by Newman96SE
by the way, what would be the point of detecting radar behing you? there must ne a reason. im just curious.
cops like to sneak up behind you.. i dont think people acutally point the radar detector behind them but many new radars detect at 360 degrees. thus, to optimize the usefulness of that radar, it must be placed where it can scan a full 360 degrees.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Newman96SE
by the way, what would be the point of detecting radar behing you? there must ne a reason. im just curious.
cops like to sneak up behind you.. i dont think people acutally point the radar detector behind them but many new radars detect at 360 degrees. thus, to optimize the usefulness of that radar, it must be placed where it can scan a full 360 degrees.

and maximadave, how well does the radar penetrate the tint? i remember on a thread a while back saying that the effectiveness of the radar will be majorly decreased if placed behind the tint up top of the windshield.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by Dustyroads
I have my 8500 right below the rear view mirror on the driver's side of the car. It is low enough so that the eye can see out the back of the car with being blocked by the mirror. If you go higher then you don't get the 360 and if you get it in the tinted area, they say the detector doesn't work as well. Like medic said put it at 3, but you can move it up a bit and to the right to reach it better.
i have it in the same position as you. right below the rear view mirror on the driver's side. and the beauty of it is that if you have a dark interior, it'll blend quite nicely when you're looking in from the outside and you'd have to be looking for it to spot it.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:25 PM
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Never depend on your radar to protect you from behind. Depend on your eyes. I haven't gotten a ticket in 6 years because I check my mirrors like a hawk and slow down without hitting my brakes. I can also count about 10 times where I have passed cops that hit me with a laser(I was going over the speed limit) and because I didn't panic and hit the brakes, they didn't even come after me.
Old Jun 28, 2001 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by deezo
Never depend on your radar to protect you from behind. Depend on your eyes. I haven't gotten a ticket in 6 years because I check my mirrors like a hawk and slow down without hitting my brakes. I can also count about 10 times where I have passed cops that hit me with a laser(I was going over the speed limit) and because I didn't panic and hit the brakes, they didn't even come after me.
i never hit my brakes either, i just throw it down a few gears..
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by deezo
Never depend on your radar to protect you from behind. Depend on your eyes. I haven't gotten a ticket in 6 years because I check my mirrors like a hawk and slow down without hitting my brakes. I can also count about 10 times where I have passed cops that hit me with a laser(I was going over the speed limit) and because I didn't panic and hit the brakes, they didn't even come after me.
it also depends how fast over the speed limit you're going, in NJ, the state troopers don't seem to give chase unless you're doing 15 above on the highways because I've gone by them doing 70 on a 55 and 80 on a 65 with them doing radar checks on me when I wasn't just following a group of cars in the fast lane. But I definately have to agree with you on checking the rear view mirror. I check it about once every ten seconds, every now and then I get a surprise in the mirror. They always seem to come out of nowhere because they're going so fast.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 12:34 PM
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Are VA and DC cops that bad?

I was going to get a detector, but since I do most of my work in VA, I'm hesitant to get one. Anyone make a good conceal-able detector? Is it possible to make a detector look like an EZ-Pass thingy?
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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mine's on 2... been working great for a while now.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 01:58 PM
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I can't find the link anymore, but there is a company that customizes vehicles and one of there tricks is to install the valenting one radar INTO the rear view mirror. They had pictures on their website. It looked awesome. If I find the link I'll post it.


Originally posted by Newman96SE
i work at a shop that installs TVs, navigation, and alarms into cars and one of the technicians was talking about taking the "eyes" out of a radar detector and rewiring it so he could place the eyes anywhere he wanted and have the actual unit hidden down low somewhere. do you think this is possible?

by the way, what would be the point of detecting radar behing you? there must ne a reason. im just curious.
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 07:32 PM
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i have easy pass at the 1 spot, where should i put my new radar? under 1? or at the 2 position. will it affect the performance.

anyone here got whistler radar? any good compare to cobra?
Old Jun 29, 2001 | 07:37 PM
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Best thing to do is to take the rader/laser detecter apart mount the acual senser in front of the raditer and anther one in the rear then put the display in with the speedo and other guages.
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 12:13 AM
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Originally posted by max'n out
Best thing to do is to take the rader/laser detecter apart mount the acual senser in front of the raditer and anther one in the rear then put the display in with the speedo and other guages.
if you did that, where would you put the circuit board and with the circuit board all exposed like that, what would block interference from other electronics?
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 10:30 AM
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create a cover... ive known several people that have dun this. It works great it gives you an extra 150 feet of detection
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 11:02 AM
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wouldnt fitting a fake antenna w/ the detector, on the roof of you car work?

ive never seen anything like that, so im guessing theirs some kinda flaw.

but to me, it sounds like it should work great
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 01:12 PM
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My friend's dad is a deputy, and he said that Radar Detectors are a waste. By the time it signals you that there is laser or radar present, you're already caught. Think about it, if the laser hits your car, and it makes the device beep, then it's too late.
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by YamahaRyder
My friend's dad is a deputy, and he said that Radar Detectors are a waste. By the time it signals you that there is laser or radar present, you're already caught. Think about it, if the laser hits your car, and it makes the device beep, then it's too late.
your friends dad is a cop and obviously doesn't like radar detectors...proper use makes them work extremely well...most people that have radar detectors think they are invincible and no cop can get them and they will just rely on their trusty ol' radar detector...even with a radar detector, you have to check your mirrors ALL THE TIME because some cops like to match speeds and pull you over without any radar...a radar detector will not help you if a cop is sitting on the side of the road and you are the only car on the road and he hits the trigger as you pass, but here are a few ways that it helps a lot

i live in arizona and we have photo radar trucks all over the place...my radar detector finds them from about a half a block away...plenty of time for me to slow down...also, most cops around here have a radar gun sitting in the center of the dash on their car while they are driving and it stays on all the time...i have detected cops from over 3 blocks away when they use this...radar detectors are meant to detect cops when they are radaring a car close by you, obviously if they have radared you, it is too late...you have to keep your eyes open and with my v1, it tells me the direction the cop is in and the strength so i know roughly how far away the cop is

i might try to disassemble it and mount it in my grill sometime
Old Jun 30, 2001 | 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by MrBurner

i might try to disassemble it and mount it in my grill sometime
I don't know about that. You've got to have skills to pull that off. I belive there is a company that sells them for that applicatin. I think it's K40 or something like that. But, they're not as good as your V1.

Anyhow, I drive in NYC a lot where radars are illigal. So far no problems yet. Can't see it from the outside unless you really try hard.
Below are some picture of how I've got the V1 mounted.


Old Jun 30, 2001 | 07:22 PM
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put it in your pocket if you don't want anyone to see it.
Old Jul 1, 2001 | 11:36 PM
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I am reading a bunch of lies in this thread!

First radars are illegal only in DC and Virginia and if you are driving a truck/trailer. For example even in NYC it is totally legal.
Second, laser detection are only used from a stopped position with direct line of sight to something that would reflect the beam. Usually it is pointed toward your license plate or your lights. If laser is used from a driven car, it is useless in court because a NJ court set a precedent where laser can only be used from a stopped standpoint. Most laser detectors are manufactured as guns. The officer must be holding it and point it a you.
Third, radar detection is based on radio emmission in a certain bandwith (K-band, Ka-band, X-band....). The detector works like a radio. It will pick up signals regardless of where they are coming from (above, below, left...)
Metal objects (car frame, wipers) distord that signal and make your radar detector useless. Thus from the 1st post picture 1, 2 and 3 are all good position for all radio based detection. However, for laser detection, 3 is pretty useless because the gun is never pointed that high unless the officer is just aiming and happen to start that high. 1 and anywhere between 2 and 3 is pretty good.
Police tends to favor Ka band detection as other bands are already populated with other device that make reading and calibration complicated. Most radars do not work when it is raining.
We shouldn't forget that a police car can match your speed and stop you if you are going fast. Nobody ever got to see the reading of the radar machine, it is really at their discretion.
However, radar detectors are definetely usefull; based on the price of a ticket, everyone should have one.
I would urge everyone to fight all speeding ticket even if you were speeding; you just put the burden on the officer to prove that you were actually speeding. Your history has no bearing on current situation.
Ticket's money is usually never used for anything else but for fattening politician pockets. If everyone was to fight their tickets, their system would fall as officers would be required to be in court instead of arresting a bunch of innocent people. They want you to pay without arguing.
Instead of having officers protecting our homes and kids from bad guys, they are on highways cruising at unbelievable speeds, drinking coffee and setting up slick traps to unsuspecting good drivers trying to get where they're supposed to be.
Speed doesn't kill, ignorance does.
Most people who drive fast know how to drive. Just look at Germany...
Let me stop here...
Check out this website...
http://www.norman-law.com/page12.html
Old Jul 2, 2001 | 05:58 AM
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Re: I am reading a bunch of lies in this thread!

First off, radar detectors are illegal in both DC and Virginia for everyone. It even says so in the website that you posted. http://www.norman-law.com/page14.html.
It seems that police in different states use different frequencies. X-band seems to be the prevelant one in NJ with the State Police using it as well as most municipalities. Starting in PA and going through the mid-west, K-band is more prevalent and in Colorado, KA band is the favorite there. It isn't necessarily true that police favor one band over the other, but if they were, why wouldn't they favor X or K band which would yield them additional spots to hide as the X and K band provides signals from alarms and door openers to provide daily drivers with a false sense of security.
While yes, cops drive around the highways at ridiculous speeds, the ones patrolling the highway are also the ones working at stopping drugs or what not. That also means they are state troopers, and its their job to patrol the highway, and not to protect your home and kids from bad guys, that's your local municipality's job. While speed traps are setup primarily to catch speeders, they are also devised to catch potential drunk drivers and other people who shouldn't be on the road, all these people like to speed. And cops do have to drink coffee, how else do you expect them to stay awake, they get sleepy like everyone else.
And not everyone who drives fast knows how to drive, look at Germany for instance, there are thousands of accidents and deaths each year because of people thinking they know how to drive fast when they really can't. Lots of innocent lives lost because of some driver who thought they can drive at 120+ MPH without a problem and then losing control and flying off into the woods or even worse, into another car.

Originally posted by frougier
First radars are illegal only in DC and Virginia and if you are driving a truck/trailer. For example even in NYC it is totally legal.
Second, laser detection are only used from a stopped position with direct line of sight to something that would reflect the beam. Usually it is pointed toward your license plate or your lights. If laser is used from a driven car, it is useless in court because a NJ court set a precedent where laser can only be used from a stopped standpoint. Most laser detectors are manufactured as guns. The officer must be holding it and point it a you.
Third, radar detection is based on radio emmission in a certain bandwith (K-band, Ka-band, X-band....). The detector works like a radio. It will pick up signals regardless of where they are coming from (above, below, left...)
Metal objects (car frame, wipers) distord that signal and make your radar detector useless. Thus from the 1st post picture 1, 2 and 3 are all good position for all radio based detection. However, for laser detection, 3 is pretty useless because the gun is never pointed that high unless the officer is just aiming and happen to start that high. 1 and anywhere between 2 and 3 is pretty good.
Police tends to favor Ka band detection as other bands are already populated with other device that make reading and calibration complicated. Most radars do not work when it is raining.
We shouldn't forget that a police car can match your speed and stop you if you are going fast. Nobody ever got to see the reading of the radar machine, it is really at their discretion.
However, radar detectors are definetely usefull; based on the price of a ticket, everyone should have one.
I would urge everyone to fight all speeding ticket even if you were speeding; you just put the burden on the officer to prove that you were actually speeding. Your history has no bearing on current situation.
Ticket's money is usually never used for anything else but for fattening politician pockets. If everyone was to fight their tickets, their system would fall as officers would be required to be in court instead of arresting a bunch of innocent people. They want you to pay without arguing.
Instead of having officers protecting our homes and kids from bad guys, they are on highways cruising at unbelievable speeds, drinking coffee and setting up slick traps to unsuspecting good drivers trying to get where they're supposed to be.
Speed doesn't kill, ignorance does.
Most people who drive fast know how to drive. Just look at Germany...
Let me stop here...
Check out this website...
http://www.norman-law.com/page12.html
Old Jul 2, 2001 | 07:45 AM
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ARE YOU A Cop??? hahaha Nah man. what my man, frougier is trying to say about the people that drive fast is that most of the people tht drive fast CAN drive fast I.E. around 80 mph's. The problem i think comes in to play is when the ignorite ****'s (I.E. the hondaBoys) start to switch lanes like it is there job and make everyone else slam on there brakes. this is the problem. if a person can't drive straight at 80 miles an hour I'M SORRY. GET THE F*** OFF THE ROAD( atleast move to the right lane) every weekend i drive from nj to Cape Code i see the hondaBoys and the other wanda be sports car cutting and weven in and out of traffic. trust me i do. then there are the people that drive the damn speed limit in the fast lane or the middle. Sorry grandpa," MOVE THE F*** OVER." So with you saying that people can drive fast is a lie. Most normal people Know there abilitly. and the roads are built for speed. I mean think about it man, the roads are F***en straight. You really can't mess up going straight. Well maybe you can. since you are making a big deal about it. hahaha. Later
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Old Jul 2, 2001 | 12:40 PM
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NJ95gxe -
I have a V1. I also bought the remote but haven't mounted it.
I want to put it about 6 inches lower than you did
- right at the "crease" in the dash by the vent.
I want to tap the power from inside the fuse box
but I'm not sure how...
How/where do you get the power for yours?

Yes speedtraps suck
But every cop doesn't suck just becuse he is a cop.
Of course the cop that gives you a ticket sucks.

And YES definately fight every ticket!
It is worth it. All you have to lose is some time.
If you win you save the ticket, points and insurance.
Always request a deposition [check-box should be on ticket]
If they don't send it, or don't send it in time,
or don't sign it - you win right there].

A Laser gun is hard to beat - fewer stray signals to pick up
but at least for now, there are less of those...
Old Jul 2, 2001 | 01:43 PM
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the CHP here have active dopper radar that can independently track fore and aft targets.

and.. they now come in all white .. %@#!%@!

so hard to see them. bastards..
Old Jul 2, 2001 | 01:49 PM
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Originally posted by fast97maxse
NJ95gxe -
I have a V1. I also bought the remote but haven't mounted it.
I want to put it about 6 inches lower than you did
- right at the "crease" in the dash by the vent.
I want to tap the power from inside the fuse box
but I'm not sure how...
How/where do you get the power for yours?
Check this out:

http://www.b15sentra.net/russ/maxsit...wireradar.html
Old Jul 2, 2001 | 02:01 PM
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thanks breaux124
[and nice job Mr. Zotz]

I have a 97 SE
NE1 know a good/which wire to tap into?

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