Alright guys I've been reading up lately on different systems to tune with.. Now after speaking with DandyMax, Fr33way, JSutter and some others I was pretty much settled on eManage.

But, then something occured to me, I have USIM so extending the rev limit means jack to me currently, as does the 2 step limiter and ton of other functions because I rarely see track time. All in all I'd just like something that will give me some decent N/A tuning options for less than $520 which is what I was quoted for eManage Ultimate w/ the harness.

I'll be happy with any advice I can get..

 

VAFC-II + Wb o2 of your choice.

And think of this as well.

The EMU is $520, but you still need to purchase a wb to take full advantage of it.

So, after you're bored with the VAFC-II, have a 00VI on there, and are ready for the EMU, sell the VAFC to some Honda owner and get the EMU. Then the wb will still be useable.

 

alright sounds good.. do you recommend any certain Wb02's?

 

Depends on what you want.


Zt2 is good since you want to stay on a budget. Get it w/o the display. ($279) and a VAFC-II can be found anywhere from $200-250 ($250 typically)

 

okay, last question.. this being the dumb one. what exactly does the wb do for you that assists the AFC, better monitoring? more decisive?

Or, is it pure data logging so you get your ratio's and such right?..

 

With my Zt-2 it is hooked up to the laptop, ( I tuned with a friend, its much easier), he operated the datalogging on the laptop, so you do a run, get ur readout(datalog) and then use the VAFC2 to adjust the AFR.

 

This kid's learning

 

Using a wide band and datalogger on the street is basically the same thing as tuning on the dyno, except you get to keep the WB . Why shell out $80-100an our on tuning when you can get the WB and save money while learning new stuff.

 

only from the best.....

hell yea, never in my life have I thought, I would tune myself, cuz I thought it was too crazy/ difficult.... I found out it was the exact opposite....hehe

 

OT: friggen courtesy stopped carrying the MEVI.. man that pisses me off.

 

Get a 00VI.....

 

They did you a favor...

 

pathfinder VI for the low end and top end win?

 

It's always been thought of that way. True dual runners, something no Maxima owner can get from the factory.

 

Unless you don't already have a laptop and datalogging software or know someone who does.
I picked up the PLX M-300 (has display) for $299 shipped, and you can get used VAFC2s off ebay or *gasp* a Honda forum for decent prices.

 

If you get the zt2 w/ no gauge and no laptop/PC access .. The zt has its own logging software and it comes with the kit

If you get it without the gauge, and have no laptop, then you could DL the logged data files onto a PC, (doesn't have to be a laptop) and view the graphs then. And I'm sure if someone is posting on here they have some sort of access to a computer.

The gauge is just for indication only since there would be nothing you could do in a lean situation.

 

well guys thank you for informing me.. It's not that im debating that the 00vi doesn't kick the MEVI's @ss. It's just something about the MEVI stuck with me and I always had high hopes for one seeing as how thats what the overseas A32's used. I figured maybe I could do something with it that hadn't been done before but I guess 00vi is a better option for everything anyways.

EDIT: at first I'll just do some dyno time at a local shop and after I get some money again I'll most likely get the M-300.

 

Learn something new everyday

 

hmm.. so is there any pros to the Neo haha? It sounds like either everyone knows the VAFC is better or are just very opinionated.

 

excuse my ignorance in the subject, but if you dont have a display nor a laptop. What does the datalog file get saved onto? and from where do you extract those files to view on PC?

 

with the zt-2, i believe u need the laptop to datalog, cuz you install the program onto ur laptop to have the ability to record the data, so I think its either Laptop or no dice on datalogging.

 

Some WB units will datalog. Some units have a certain amount of "in unit data compacity" but not alot at all.

I love my LC-1 with XD-1 Gauge Readout. The unit is great, reads through my emanage ultimate and I have WB readout all the time on my dash.

 

I agree with the advice stated, to get a VAFCII and a good wideband. Tuning with the VAFCII should give you a good feel for how to make adjustments to fuel and such.

 

man where you been man?.. haha, thanks for the advice budd. I may try to go to the next ATL meet, or the one after that.

 

lol . . I've been making adjustment on my car, and wiring up the VAFCII which is a lot of fun to play with.

hope to see you at a meet, its getting colder and colder now a days but, I'm from the cold so I'll probably still going to a few more meets.

 

right on man, well we'll have to talk on those subjects.. Also, today's philosophy lesson is?

 

Pm me any time. I've been reading up a lot on the vafc, and I'm getting the hang of it pretty fast. Once I decide on a good datalogging wb02. I'll get it installed and do some tuning.

If I'm not mistaken, I was informed for every 5 points of fuel you take off you'll advance timing 1 degree.




todays lesson is its better to have and not need, than need and not have.

 

sounds good man, I'll be talking with you more around the beginning of next year which is when I'll have the WB02 and AFC in and all ready. thanks again.