Looking for some feedback on the ES bushings
Looking for some feedback on the ES bushings
Alright so this is the first time I'm made a new thread in a while, mainly because all my time effort, energy, and money has been going to my project car.
Because I now have a project car the focus for my Maxima has changed. I do like my daily driver to be sporty as well but now that I have a car on the side thats going to be brutally fast and absolutly brutal to drive for more than half an hour, I want to make sure my I35 is comfortable and relaxing for the longer trips.
Now that you know where I'm coming from I have the LCA, front sway bar and rear trailing arm ES bushings sitting in the trunk of my car waiting to be installed. I heard from one of the members in here that it transmitted quite a bit more NHV into the cabin than he thought it would and I have heard from many people that the difference in handling feel was pretty decent. So I wanna know from the people who have ES bushings what do you think of them? How noticible is the difference in ride and handling?
Because I now have a project car the focus for my Maxima has changed. I do like my daily driver to be sporty as well but now that I have a car on the side thats going to be brutally fast and absolutly brutal to drive for more than half an hour, I want to make sure my I35 is comfortable and relaxing for the longer trips.
Now that you know where I'm coming from I have the LCA, front sway bar and rear trailing arm ES bushings sitting in the trunk of my car waiting to be installed. I heard from one of the members in here that it transmitted quite a bit more NHV into the cabin than he thought it would and I have heard from many people that the difference in handling feel was pretty decent. So I wanna know from the people who have ES bushings what do you think of them? How noticible is the difference in ride and handling?
No response... I guess I'll prob end up being one of the first in the 5th gen crowd to post results after installing all the poly suspension bushings.
I hope it actually makes a difference cause its gonna be a lot of work
I hope it actually makes a difference cause its gonna be a lot of work
Since no one who actually has the bushings is replying, here's some older stuff you might find useful:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....27#post4699627
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....light=bushings
IMO, the only real downside to the ES bushings is the installation. So if you don't mind the install, go for it!
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....27#post4699627
Originally Posted by d00df00d
I have the full ES bushing set (control arm, sway bar, sway bar end link, motor mounts). Nothing but positive things to say. There's plenty you can do to smooth out your ride without missing out on the precision and tightness you get from polyurethane suspension bushings.
Originally Posted by Mike T
Energy Suspension Rear Trailing Arm Bushings: Significantly reduced body movement (roll). “Initial (transitional) understeer” problem eliminated. Steady state cornering is very neutral. Very buttoned-down and stable. The car is not loose or twitchy as I was fearing it might become, you really have to work hard to unsettle the car. Small road imperfection are more easily felt through the rear suspension, sharp impacts come through more clearly (i.e. railroad crossings). Super-quick steering response. Rear suspension feels much more “connected” with the rest of the chassis. Sloppiness and numbness greatly reduced. Front-suspension can no longer be bottomed out during repeated high frequency slaloming. Slow speed handling is improved as much or more than high speed handling. I can’t wait to get this to the autocross. Update: I tried trail-braking in a decreasing radius turn to see if the tail could be coaxed out, it sure as hell can. However, the rear broke loose predictably, slightly, and controllably, a slight steering correction brought the back end back in line, didn’t even get the heart rate up. I love the way this thing handles now. I find myself making unnecessarily sudden steering inputs just to enjoy the new steering response, and seeking out sharp S-turns, where before the Maxima was most at home on long, continuous, on or off ramps. Update: don’t know if I am just getting used to it, but there does not seem to be a significant increase in noise or vibration. 100-115mph runs through roughly paved country roads: feels stable, inspires confidence, need grippier tires! The springs and dampers are soft enough to absorb mid corner bumps without upsetting the chassis. The car can more easily be coaxed in to tail-out oversteer in bad weather, but is still stable if you take conditions into account, and don’t drive like an idiot, otherwise, you will end up *** first in a ditch.
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[QUOTE=sciff5]Alright so this is the first time I'm made a new thread in a while, mainly because all my time effort, energy, and money has been going to my project car.
Now that you know where I'm coming from I have the LCA, front sway bar and rear trailing arm ES bushings sitting in the trunk of my car waiting to be installed. ""
Has anyone just replaced the front sway bar bushings and nothing else??
Does it have more of an impact than switching the small GLE bar for the larger SE bar? It sounds like a good quick mod.
thanks
Vic
Now that you know where I'm coming from I have the LCA, front sway bar and rear trailing arm ES bushings sitting in the trunk of my car waiting to be installed. ""
Has anyone just replaced the front sway bar bushings and nothing else??
Does it have more of an impact than switching the small GLE bar for the larger SE bar? It sounds like a good quick mod.
thanks
Vic
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Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 153
I have LCA & sway bushings installed have not done rear or sub frame(if I get a y or headers i think that cross member comes out waste of time then)
as for the ones i have installed they feel good on even pavement but as for POTHOLES in my lawn "New York City" being that i have g35 18 on when I hit a big one the car feels more solid it will be evenly distributed thou . IMO my 18 got to come off they made what could be a great ride just good I will chime in when the 18 come off in 2 weeks
as for the ones i have installed they feel good on even pavement but as for POTHOLES in my lawn "New York City" being that i have g35 18 on when I hit a big one the car feels more solid it will be evenly distributed thou . IMO my 18 got to come off they made what could be a great ride just good I will chime in when the 18 come off in 2 weeks
I've got 5th gen LCA and sway bar bushings. Makes the car feel more precise over all road conditions, more controlled. Feels as though the pin is sitting in the bushing and turning when going over a bump, rather than it just sloshing around in the bushing when they were rubber. I'd say it was worth it.
edit: you have a Maxima, I30 AND a project car?
edit: you have a Maxima, I30 AND a project car?
Originally Posted by djfrestyl
I've got 5th gen LCA and sway bar bushings. Makes the car feel more precise over all road conditions, more controlled. Feels as though the pin is sitting in the bushing and turning when going over a bump, rather than it just sloshing around in the bushing when they were rubber. I'd say it was worth it.
edit: you have a Maxima, I30 AND a project car?
edit: you have a Maxima, I30 AND a project car?
In addition to the I35 I have an 89 RX7 as a project car. The rx7 cost me 1000$ so its not like I'm a baller here with all these cars.
Originally Posted by djfrestyl
Nice project car..
and back on topic, yea, do the ES bushings if you can stand the time/money for labor.
and back on topic, yea, do the ES bushings if you can stand the time/money for labor.
i have all the es bushing installed on my 00, i was suprised in the fact that i think it road just as smooth as it did with the stock bushing, perhaps a tad more noise, but not to where anyone else would notice.
with the mm's and subframes in i noticed the wheel shake a lil bit at idle when the cars cold, but it goes away once its warmed up.
the lca and sway bar, didnt seem to do much, front ends a lil tighter, but i also replaced the arms and balljoints at the same time its hard to tell where the difference came from.
the rear bushign are a pita (from what im told) but i noticed a huge difference. the rear is much more planted, and dare i say playful. my car had a tendency to oversteer (and not in the good way)b4 i had them installed but now its much more neutral, altho the rear still rotates when commanded.
hope that helps, btw im running jic a1s with fstb rstb &rsb. every setups different but as of right now i really like mine how its setup
with the mm's and subframes in i noticed the wheel shake a lil bit at idle when the cars cold, but it goes away once its warmed up.
the lca and sway bar, didnt seem to do much, front ends a lil tighter, but i also replaced the arms and balljoints at the same time its hard to tell where the difference came from.
the rear bushign are a pita (from what im told) but i noticed a huge difference. the rear is much more planted, and dare i say playful. my car had a tendency to oversteer (and not in the good way)b4 i had them installed but now its much more neutral, altho the rear still rotates when commanded.
hope that helps, btw im running jic a1s with fstb rstb &rsb. every setups different but as of right now i really like mine how its setup
Originally Posted by sciff5
I would never do it if I had to pay someone else to do it just doing it myself is going to be a ***** in a half.
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