for those of us that have a 5 speed manuel, who has had their gear box synchros replaced? on my max the second gear synchros are about done wont shift into second smoothly when driving. gears aren't meshing. What is the cost of a total gearbox redo? I have gotten a price to have just my second gear synchros done for $600 labor and parts.Seems a little steep to me? thought i could get the whole gearbox done for that price? Let me know for those who have done the job? thanks!!

 

hell yeah that's steep. if you don't have the tools you need to rebuild the shafts yourself, just pull both out and take them around to different shops and get quotes. or is that $600 including removal, repair and re-installation? if so that's probably about right and the price and would be probably be about the same to have all brass replaced. if the tranny is off the car, do step one, if you need removal, overhaul and installation, that's going to cost you a bit.

 

that cost of 600 includes removal of trani break dow of gear box and repair of synchros and trani being reinstalled

 

if you have the ability to do it your self it will be way cheaper and its not really that hard. it cost about $200.00

 

www.importdrivetrain.com

about $270.00

 

thanks for the input will give the guys a call tomorrow!!

 

While your in there on the rebuild, anybody know if theres anything available out there to maybe improve that throw out bearing issue or what ever that I read normally goes out when you start pushing some meaningful HP??

 

it's not the torwout bearing that goes.. it's the input shaft bearings that die from high rpm, and it's also the gears themselves. the fun part is when the gears go, it takes the shafts down with them.
I'm now getting to rebuild the whole thing and replace both shafts because I broke a couple teeth off 1st gear. urgh.

 

So we're pretty much stuck with these trannies? Nothin to maybe strengthen the input shaft bearings?

 

not really. I've done some research on going to a tapered roller bearing instead of a single-row deep-groove ball bearing, but it's not going to be a drop-in replacement. you've going to have to machine a spacer or bushing to install in there as well in order to make a tapered bearing fit.

 

what about getting the tranny corno dips to harden it well speaking of all parts able to be done this way :-/ i know its an expensive prosses but an option none the less

 

you mean cryo treated?
it can't hurt, but I have also heard of it not having any noticeable improvements.
your best bet is to have the important parts shot peened and cryo treat the entire thing when you're done.

cost... ???? I know they generally charge about $100 to cryo the guts, but I'm not sure on the shot peening. I will be getting estimates locally in the next few days for mine as well. will post up what I find.

 

sweet deal matt. this is something that help those running turbo that have problems with trannies giving out cuz of it not being able to withstand to the added power and torque having the motor turbo'd would cause

 

Do it your self Alot cheaper and besides once you do the first time you will be able to bo it a second time. I had the same troubles but with my first gear had to go into second just to go into first. waist of time!! And also it gave me some time to replace bearings and seals. See todays mechanics fix only what they think is in need of replacing, but not repairing what is problem. Thats why if you want something done right then do it yourself. Thats why This max.org to Fix Your Own Stuff and show other how you accomplished it.

 

You didn't, by any chance, put together any kind of write-up on what you did and how you went about doing it? I'm sure at some point, I wouldn't mind "tooling" around in my tranny (trust me, I'm pretty mechanically inclined, so don't think that I don't know my way around a toolbox).

 

If you want i can swoop through and help you out next time i'm over in bend (I get bored over there) It's not too difficult, the most percise part is knowing where all your ***** and springs go and keep track of them as well as your snap rings, and also make sure your sychro clips are set right.

 

If i get time i'll try to write up about this

 

I have a spare VE tranny that needs input shaft bearings...

 

But i'm never in The Dalles Maybe we can work something out, i've got a spare VE trans also w/ISB in tact..

 

I need a input shaft bearing installed...

 

Yes, we would love a write up!

 

I go to Portland fairly often. My brother lives in Clackamas and my mom is in Oregon City until the end of the month.

I might be interested in a trade + money or paying you to fix this one.

 

You should really do it yourself. If you don't plan on doing it your self you should definatly at least remove the trans from the car and take out the shaft(s) that needs servicing. Make sure your clutch is in good order too. My slave cylinder was going bad on me and so I had trouble getting into first even though the pedal felt pretty much ok. As soon as I replaced that all was good.

 

if only you didn't on weekends.... It would be done by now.

 

In 03 I paid about $450 in parts (bearings, syncros, seals, and shims) for my VE trans (labor was provided by myself). $213.11 was for the syncos alone.
I would say $400 for labor is about right, but labor should'nt be much more to replace the bearings, seals, and shims while they are in there.

 

The FSM is better than any write-up. Actually there's too much info and you can end up taking apart more than you need to. All you really have to do is take the case off, put it in gear, remove reverse gear, remove 2 snap rings, a couple pins and pull the shafts out along with the forks.

 

This is for Hectic and the other "Do it yourself'ers"

I've seen in the archives that most people had problems with bearing removal and some other parts because they lacked the proper tools. The FSM has an extensive listing that I cant lay hands on. I'm sure there are more ingenious ways using regular "day to day" tools, if so what are they?

Thanks

 

the main two things you need are a bearing separator tool and a hydraulic press.
you can buy both for under $150 total at Harbor Freight.

and there is absolutely no write-up needed. open your service manual to the MT section and read it.
follow disassembly instructions by the letter until you have the shafts out. swap the bearings, then follow the assembly instructions to put it back together.

 

If taking off the bearings is an issue then take them to a trans shop and have them use there press to get them off. I purchased one off of craigslist a while back and relized i could use this for all sorts of things. The only bearing that i had the most trouble with was the diff bearing that had the speedo gear attached to the inner side. this was a *****. You have to cut the inner race of the bearing to releave some tension because it's tuff son-of-gun
but after rebuilding two 5spd it gets eaiser every time.



A good rule of thumb: If you scearch some local wrecking yard pick up a spare tranny and take it apart, and take note of the order of removal while doing so. You sort of develop a mental picture of how and why things work the way they work. Because Chiltons and haynes Only Give So mush info on rebuilds but they do come in handy sooner or later.

84-2001 trannys inside share some parts together but the bell housing are different in each one.

This Web page is very helpfuf too if anyones intrested in it
Maxima A32 Tranny Rebuild

 

Considering you can download the Nissan FSM for free and print the 8 pages that cover the tranny process and have everything spelled out letter by letter, why would you even consider one of those crapola books?

 

Thanks Matt, havent been able to locate a hydraulic press for less than 170.00 but I'll continue searching. The FSM is excellent though I prefer the 4th gen section for the MT. The information is the same but the layout is slightly different.

2Legal the link is much appreciated. Thanks. I have the Haynes, Chilton, FSM and some information archived from the .org however I'm always open to additional sources. There is nothing like having someones personal exp. with their mistakes etc etc. Like Hectic mentioned before one doesnt need to disassembly everything that the FSM states.

I have a 5 Sp.VG tranny which I've opened, got stuck about 3 weeks ago and havent spent any additonal time retrying. Additionally, I have a complete 92VE5 which I'll either fix or part out, so I have yet another tranny to experiment on.

The tranny on my car is good but I would like to learn this stuff on my own. My car was bought as a project ride and I've learnt tons in the last year.

Thanks again

On a side note. The archives on this site is an indispensable source of information. It's like a virtual mechanic with almost every issue addressed. Only problem is sometimes you have to read 20 threads before you finally get the answer.

 

Another thing I found handy was to use a digital camera to take lots of pictures of everything as I disassembled it, and dump them on my computer. Any time I came upon something that wasn't covered well in the FSM, I could look at those pictures, blow them up, and usually see the way it went together.

 

Yup.. I've done that many times myself.


sometimes I've even wrapped my laptop in plastic wrap and take it out to the garage with me.

 

My lappy is a little dirty...

 

True!!, But i was just refering to the info that most max owners already obtained. But myself personally i appreciate the input. I did not know that it was obtainable over the net. I always thought they were payable to obtain. If by any chance i would appreciate that website

 

http://www.phatg20.net

http://www.phatg20.net/modules.php?name=Downloads

 

WTF? a turbo 'coming soon' isn't bragging about YOUR car? Are you the pot or Kettle?