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Old Jan 5, 2007 | 05:37 PM
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back 2 stock y-pipe & no hp loss

i don't understand. since going back to my stock y-pipe from a Cattman Y i've changed my oil (5k on Mobil 1 Tri-Syn) & swapped out my test pipe for the stock cat, that's it (also relocated my battery to the trunk, but thats unrelated). the car feels the same. my butt-dyno is caliberated to about plus or minus 5 hp so a 10-12 hp drop should have been noticable.

the only thing i can think of is that my Max is a Cali spec, so even w/ a y-pipe, i still have a huge pre cat on the front bank of the engine.

do Cali specs make comparable hp w/ y-pipes as fed spec Maximas? i've remeber an org member once mentioned to me the that putting y-pipes on 5th Gens is point less, headers are the only worth while option. whether that true or not, isn't the 4th Gen Cali Spec exhaust (before primary cat) designed similar to that of the vq30 5th Gen's?

Looking for hard evidence to support or oppose my less than optimal but-dyno...
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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No dyno sheet no care ....but the whole Cali deal might make a little sense. Not to support your theory, but to support the fact that the y-pipe might not give as much gain when comapred to a fed spec Mac...But then again do I know ..
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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No dyno sheet no care ....but the whole Cali deal might make a little sense. Not to support your theory, but to support the fact that the y-pipe might not give as much gain when comapred to a fed spec Mac...But then again do I know ..
Yeah Manny..
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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^^^^^^^^^ yea no Dyno no care when there are dynos proven to give gain with y-pipes
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Well this thread is pretty much worthless without a chart.

I am about to put in amber corners to see if I make some gains.
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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Ill take your y-pipe since you dont notice a difference.

Just sayin...
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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NmexMAX, thanks for the post. i really do think Cali Max's don't get to see the full potential of a y-pipe because of that precat, but just like you said, WTF do i know?

MaximaSE96, true that y-pipe are proven to give gains and there's alot to support that claim, but to what extent on Cali Specs. being that the Cali y-pipe dimensionally is basically half of what the fed spec is, not to mention my recent experience, makes me kinda wonder...

Fr33way™, be sure to post a "chart" with before and after hp & torque. i heard ambers are awesome in the mid range and raise your rev limiter!

shadyonedeath, already sold it to make some money for the latest header by Cattman.
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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An aftermarket ypipe on a 99 should give less gains than an aftermarket ypipe on a 95-98. On the 99 one of the pre cats is in the header and when you put on an aftermarket ypipe you dont eliminate that front pre cat in the header. On 95-98 maximas, both pre cats are in the ypipe so when you put on an aftermarket one you eliminate both. Thats why people with 99-01 maximas convert to the 95-98 fed spec front header to eliminate that pre cat.
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Vlasic
Thats why people with 99-01 maximas convert to the 95-98 fed spec front header to eliminate that pre cat.
not a bad idea, but i'll just get a header.
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jac121479
but i'll just get a header.
A good set of headers are the best exhaust mod, even on a 3.0L. IMO.
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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hehe i just got my headers and y-pipe... i'm not calli tuned i dont think though.. >_>
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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I'm not sure why we should care
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
A good set of headers are the best exhaust mod, even on a 3.0L. IMO.
Yeah cause I mean a 3.5 AT with headers is so amazing.
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 10:13 PM
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I'm not sure why I would care
Old Jan 5, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
I'm not sure why I would care
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Vlasic
An aftermarket ypipe on a 99 should give less gains than an aftermarket ypipe on a 95-98. On the 99 one of the pre cats is in the header and when you put on an aftermarket ypipe you dont eliminate that front pre cat in the header. On 95-98 maximas, both pre cats are in the ypipe so when you put on an aftermarket one you eliminate both. Thats why people with 99-01 maximas convert to the 95-98 fed spec front header to eliminate that pre cat.
On the 99's actually not all of them are cali spec. I was fortunate enough to have a 99 that is NOT cali spec...just thought i'd clear that up.



and about the Y pipe...you know, you're not the first person that has said that, there was a thread here a couple months back discussing the same topic.
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 4x4Max
you're not the first person that has said that, there was a thread here a couple months back discussing the same topic.
i guess i missed it...
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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what the **** i better not of spent 200 dollars back in jun of 03 to get on hp gain
Old Jan 6, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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what the **** i better not of spent 200 dollars back in jun of 03 to get on hp gain
if you didn't notice, we're only talking about cali spec 99's. if you don't have a cali spec 99, your good.
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