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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 07:07 AM
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5th Gen clutch

Its getting time for a clutch in the Max. I bought it a year ago and the clutch was a bit tired(97K origonal), it never been able to bark a second even though it pulls really strong.
Anyway my question is about the 5 gen clutch. I know there is a brand they sell at Nissan that everyone says is a dog(keyvalue or something), and I will search here to avoid that model. My question is does it have to be a Nissan piece. Would a 5th gen from AutoZone cut it? I'm not looking for cheap just convenient.
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:12 AM
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yes...but dealer parts are better than autozone....dealers are convenient and the prices for disk....pressure plate...and throw out bearing are very comprable to a clutch kit form AZ...jsut Nissan stuff is more gooder
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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check allnissanparts.net I think to avoid some taxes. You might save a good 50-75 bucks.
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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Thanks, I will.
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 03:20 PM
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I have an Exedy. An Exedy stage 1 kit for the 5th gen will be very cheap, and believe it or not I suggest you buy one from eBay. I got my kit in 2 days, and Exedy is good stuff - they (Exedy/Daiken) make clutches for many OEM import brands, including Nissan and ACT. This is a case where you can save money and get a good quality part.

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Old Jan 15, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I have an Exedy. An Exedy stage 1 kit for the 5th gen will be very cheap, and believe it or not I suggest you buy one from eBay. I got my kit in 2 days, and Exedy is good stuff - they (Exedy/Daiken) make clutches for many OEM import brands, including Nissan and ACT. This is a case where you can save money and get a good quality part.

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Can you tell me how the clutch feels (effort wise) compare to stock? Thanks.
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:25 PM
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99% of the time one aftermarket clutch is made for all cars it fits, so the clamping force could be off from whats best. Since the VQ30 ranges from 95-01 there are some differences if you buy a genuine Nissan, IE clamping force on early ones is not as high as the newer ones. So do your self a favor. Buy a 00-01 clutch from Nissan, search for the part number for the higher clamping force pressure plate. Plus no aftermarket clutch I have seen lasts as long as stock.
Old Jan 15, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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I just order mine last week from nissanparts.org from AZ.. it all came out to about 231 shipped.. they arrive this thursday. and i also order a technafit SS clutch line...

thats the best way to go!
btw, my original clutch died at 197K

heres the part numbers:http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=433422
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fithos
Can you tell me how the clutch feels (effort wise) compare to stock? Thanks.
I got an Exedy "OEM replacement" 4th gen clutch, and it feels identical or even a little soft. Hard to say though since I went from stock to ACT 1 to the Exedy.

That's why I'm recommending the Exedy stage 1 - some people would freak out if their clutch got any softer.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMax...yet
Its getting time for a clutch in the Max. I bought it a year ago and the clutch was a bit tired(97K origonal), it never been able to bark a second even though it pulls really strong.
Anyway my question is about the 5 gen clutch. I know there is a brand they sell at Nissan that everyone says is a dog(keyvalue or something), and I will search here to avoid that model. My question is does it have to be a Nissan piece. Would a 5th gen from AutoZone cut it? I'm not looking for cheap just convenient.
Contact DaveB the parts guy. As far as I know, he pioneered this idea, at least on here. (I am sure that SOMEONE thought of it before him). He got me all set up to do it, but I accidentally installed the wrong one on my I30. He had shipped me both the 4th and 5th gen parts, just in case the 5th did not work.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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I got my 5th gen clutch from DaveB (disc, PP, t/o bearing) shipped to my door for $195ish. This was 2 yrs ago though, but I doubt prices changed. That clutch with my old 3.0 was insane. Many back to back clutch dumps/ power-shifting at the track, not once did it slip. By the time I did the engine swap I had about 17k miles on it, thickness was still almost like new.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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plus the 5th gen Nissan Pressure plate is also used on JDM s15 Silvia's

http://www.courtesyparts.com/Merchan...Category_Code=
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Thanks for the responses. Do I need to order anything besides the Clutch/PP/TOB, I already have a SS clutch hose.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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may as well replace axle seals cause they need to come out
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 07:48 AM
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Are you experienced in driving 5-speed? When I first started, I would take the car to redline and shift as fast as I could and dump the clutch ... no noise.

Now I can take her to 4K and make her bark like a ho on 42nd street. Hell ... I have gotten the car to make a very loud, but short chirp at 3.5K.

Oh btw, this is on my slipping clutch with 150K (OEM). I have 0 mods (no intake, no drop filter, no y-pipe, no good tires, and no type-r stickers)
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NoMax...yet
Its getting time for a clutch in the Max. I bought it a year ago and the clutch was a bit tired(97K origonal), it never been able to bark a second even though it pulls really strong.
Then there is nothing wrong with it. I would not pull and change a clutch unless it's slipping, or the tranny is coming down for something else. The fact that your wheels won't spin mean you'll be faster than someone who does.

Clutches routinely last 200k if driven properly. Just because it's at 97k doesn't mean it needs changed.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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I've owned a hand full of 5 spd cars and this isn't a racing issue. Its just pretty obvious that the clutch isn't where it should be. My understanding of clutches is they should be able to put the power of the engine through the drive train and to the wheels. If the engine revs when I shift it hard and its up to 110K its probably getting tired.
As for changing it in the first place I have a limited window of time and facility coming up and I need to do it so it doesn't go during the 104 degree summer. Its also my wifes car and couldn't let her get stranded.
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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That's a good reason. But I've never seen a worn-out clutch that doesn't fail the 5th gear slip test. Just drive down the road at highway speed (rpms at 3k, in 5th gear) and punch it. That will make a weak/worn clutch slip.

I'd buy an Exedy 5th gen Stage 1 kit, get the flywheel re-cut, and change the tranny oil. If it's black I suggest you take the whole tranny to a transmission shop for an inspection. Many 5 speed trannys don't last as long as they should from the factory, and it only takes a qualified mechanic 30min to evaluate that if you hand the whole thing to them.

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Old Jan 16, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
...I'd buy an Exedy 5th gen Stage 1 kit...
ok, I agree with all in your post except that part Im pointing out. Its a common misconception that some people have, so let me clear it up...

With AFTERMARKET CLUTCH KITS, such as Exedy, Spec, ACT, and RPS, they use THE SAME CLUTCH AND PP (same kit part #) from 95-01. Im using a Spec Stage 2 (PN# SN442) on my car and its application is for a Maxima 95-01. So doesnt matter if you're 4th or 5th gen, with aftermarket kits, you're gonna get the same kit.

For example, Justin's Clutch GD thread... http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=449640

Notice the applications and part #s

Ok, hoepfully this will end that misconception for a few weeks
Old Jan 16, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
That's a good reason. But I've never seen a worn-out clutch that doesn't fail the 5th gear slip test. Just drive down the road at highway speed (rpms at 3k, in 5th gear) and punch it. That will make a weak/worn clutch slip.
Dave
It feels like that is right around the corner. If I drove it as aggressively as I liked it would have been there a long time ago.
I hear about 2nd and 3rd gear tires breaking loose and that can't happen with the current set up. I've never had that problem with other sport cars(with a lot less HP).
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:05 AM
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i ordered the following from everything nissan for $206 shipped:

release bearing part #30502-41U20
clutch disc part #C0100-6E600
clutch cover part #30210-89F00

when i put in the clutch disc number it says:
"Item: Clutch - Clutch & flywheel - Clutch & flywheel - Disc Disc, maxima, vg30e 1991 - 1992 "


and for the release bearing it says:
"Item: Clutch - Clutch & flywheel - Release bearing Release bearing, altima, 3.5l 2002 - 2006"

the clutch cover/pressure plate:
"Item: Clutch - Clutch & flywheel - Pressure plate Pressure plate, maxima 2000"

now im a bit confused since they are stating that the clutch disc is for a vg30e 1990-1992 and the realease bearing is for a altima 3.5 2002-2006.

i hope i ordered all the right stuff. i went by the part numbers that were listed.

can anyone confirm that the parts i ordered are correct?

thanks.
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:27 PM
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i have an exedy stage t clutch on my car and it is great!
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by edlab03
i ordered the following from everything nissan for $206 shipped:

release bearing part #30502-41U20
clutch disc part #C0100-6E600
clutch cover part #30210-89F00

when i put in the clutch disc number it says:
"Item: Clutch - Clutch & flywheel - Clutch & flywheel - Disc Disc, maxima, vg30e 1991 - 1992 "


and for the release bearing it says:
"Item: Clutch - Clutch & flywheel - Release bearing Release bearing, altima, 3.5l 2002 - 2006"

the clutch cover/pressure plate:
"Item: Clutch - Clutch & flywheel - Pressure plate Pressure plate, maxima 2000"

now im a bit confused since they are stating that the clutch disc is for a vg30e 1990-1992 and the realease bearing is for a altima 3.5 2002-2006.

i hope i ordered all the right stuff. i went by the part numbers that were listed.

can anyone confirm that the parts i ordered are correct?

thanks.

Thats what i recieved in the mail.. I got so mad i call'd them back and then they said it works for the 5th gen also... so i think its all good

i got my clutch and flywheel on the car, but i had to order some tranny parts from nissan and its takin a week. but everything aligned

-moo
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 07:32 PM
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thanks Moo.

anyone else want to confirm(not that i dont belive you Moo...lol)
Old Jan 31, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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Do 5th Gen clutches work on 3rd Gens?
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by MaximaSE96
jsut Nissan stuff is more gooder
hahaha "gooder"
Old Feb 1, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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I'm currently running a full out ACT setup. I'm considering the following this spring as my ACT is finally starting to wear out after about 4 years.

I want to replace my stock flywheel with an aluminum one, but run the same ACT pressure plate that is on the car again, and purchase a 5th gen friction disc. I'm just worried about some kind of incompatibility.

Anyone have any insight? In theory, if the aluminum flywheel can mate up with a stock clutch, and that an ACT clutch can be run on a stock flywheel, it shuld all be compatible. Anyone have any ideas?
Old Feb 6, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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clutch cover part #30210-89F00

non of the part numbers match allnissanparts.com.

what is the exact name for clutch cover part?

is that all that is needed to replace your clutch?

how do i get in touch with Dave B.?

whats his username?
Old Feb 7, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by eckounltd287
how do i get in touch with Dave B.?

whats his username?
DAVEB







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i can't get a hold of daveB.

i pm'ed him, but no answer
Old Feb 9, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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you can call him at southpoint nissan at 888-254-6060
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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There is a sale going on at allnissanparts.net. 30% off of MSRP price's. My clutch is bad and when I search for the part numbers found here: http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...3&postcount=33, It comes up with:
Release bearing Release bearing, altima, 3.5l 2002 - 2006 $23.44
Clutch & flywheel - Disc Disc, maxima, vg30e 1991 - 1992 $74.19
Pressure plate Pressure plate, maxima 2000 $78.51

Those don't sound right, so should I just browse the site for 2000 Maxima parts and add them seperatly to the cart as opposed to the search function?

allnissanparts.net

PS. The parts come out to $174.16 with free shipping. Not sure if anyone else has found a better deal; if so let me know.

PSS. Off topic but it seems like the forum would not say Maxima was a spelling error, unless theres no way to change the forum code.
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I also have the same problem, i had no idea what was included in the clutch kits and was not sure what parts to get.

174 sounds real cheap
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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I use this clutch on my 3.5 swap tuned my EU, and it is rock solid, even with the 3.5 torque. I've been running it for over 10k miles now with the 3.5. After it broke in, it started grabbing fantastically. I highly reccomend this clutch over those cheap stage 1 clutches out there.
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 05:23 PM
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i used exedy stage 1 for a year and a half on my 240sx without a problem and the best thing is is pedal feels firm but not hard great for everyday traffic
Old Feb 20, 2007 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GoalieKeg
I use this clutch on my 3.5 swap tuned my EU, and it is rock solid, even with the 3.5 torque. I've been running it for over 10k miles now with the 3.5. After it broke in, it started grabbing fantastically. I highly reccomend this clutch over those cheap stage 1 clutches out there.

which clutch are you talking about exactly?
Old Feb 21, 2007 | 01:11 AM
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I ordered my 5th gen clutch from EverythingNissan.com, and then had it installed by a local shop. At the time (like 7 months ago) it was the cheapest. The parts guy (forgot his name) was really helpful.

To me the clutch feels a lot like the stock 4th gen, maybe shorter engagement -- I'm never like WOW this is amazing, but it works just fine and never slips.
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