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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Replacing clutch on saterday...anyone have any tips?

Im replacing my slipping clutch on saterday.

Ive done 3 clutches in my 4th gens , I hear its alot harder on the 3.5.


Ill have a friend helping me.


Any one have any tips , shortcuts etc???


anything is welcome
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by maxspeed96CT
Im replacing my slipping clutch on saterday.

Ive done 3 clutches in my 4th gens , I hear its alot harder on the 3.5.


Ill have a friend helping me.


Any one have any tips , shortcuts etc???


anything is welcome
The only difficult thing really is manuevering in there to remove it....if you've done 3 clutches in the past, you will be fine with this one.
Old Apr 25, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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Make sure you remove the shifter cable bracket before trying to drop the tranny. It'll bind against the firewall and you'll be stuck trying to remove it while it's even harder to reach. One of the bolts on the bracket is about the toughest to reach on the while job because it's against the coiled up brake line. A ratchet wrench will make your life much easier since there's no room for a socket. It's one of those that's hard to get a wrench on and when you do it'll only move maybe a quarter turn or less. I'm pretty sure it's a 12mm.

You'll need a tranny jack too. The 6-speed is bigger and heavier. I've done it on other cars without one but I can't imagine doing it on this one.

Make sure you get the throwout bearing in right. If you put it in flipped over it'll bind and not work right. It looks almost the same on both sides but it's not. It can be put in wrong.

Other then that it's pretty simple.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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yea, go to the berlin tpke, rip and run all you want on that clutch, go home, but before doing so get a case of beer (anything BUT keystone light) and get to working....

On a serious note tho, you'll be good tho...The only shortcut i can imagine is the one you already have, which is a friend helping you out...if you run into any problems, just send me a message on AIM, or email me....I may be able to come give a helping hand...btw, where are u in ct anyway?
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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but before doing so get a case of beer (anything BUT keystone light) and get to working....

he he he... you forgot to mention the steak... get some steak and beer and u'll definetely have more offers to help you... hecka... i'll even give u a hand for food!

Whereabouts in CT?


One thing: throw out bearings. I've done one clutch job and I forgot to replace this bearing and i had an annoying noise forever... Pain in the ****... i wish i was told about this bearing...


good luck bro!
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Bborges
he he he... you forgot to mention the steak... get some steak and beer and u'll definetely have more offers to help you... hecka... i'll even give u a hand for food!

Whereabouts in CT?


One thing: throw out bearings. I've done one clutch job and I forgot to replace this bearing and i had an annoying noise forever... Pain in the ****... i wish i was told about this bearing...


good luck bro!
yea...if u do not correctly install the throw out bearing, you will hear an annoying ratcheting noise every time you disengage the clutch...YOU DEF DO NOT WANT THAT!!! so be very careful on the throw out bearing. after finishing up and reassembling everything, be sure no gear oil is leaking or nothin...its a pain in the *** for real!!! but yea, just be careful with the throw out.

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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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#1 Airtools.
#2 Breaker bars
#3 Helping hand.

That's about it.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by MaxBoost925
#1 Airtools.
#2 Breaker bars
#3 Helping hand.

That's about it.
why do you need airtools?





Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by LA02MAX
why do you need airtools?





To make install/extraction a lot easier. We used air tools on my car to get the tranny bolts off.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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This may be a sily question , but will I have to remove my y-pipe?

Tech at nissan said i gotta drop the hole subframe with control arms and everything cause theres not enough room to pull it out.


Ive got air tools, and a helping hand.
Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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iirc, you DONT have to remove ya y-pipe.. But as a precaution, you may want to remove it....I did a complete tranny rebuild on a 4th gen and didnt have to even remove the control arms...it may be different from the 5.5 gen but not THAT different. IMO, i dont think you have to...you may want to tho.
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the tranny looks way bigger than the 4thgen, everything looks diffrent man...
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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You don't have to remove the Y-pipe or any exhaust. You do have to unbolt the subframe and support the motor with a jack. Don't remove the subframe, just put the jack under it and remove the bolts. You'll have to tilt the motor a little to get the tranny out. Dropping the motor down with a jack under the subframe will tilt the tranny side of it down. It's a really tight fit getting that tranny out.
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Derrick2k2SE
You don't have to remove the Y-pipe or any exhaust. You do have to unbolt the subframe and support the motor with a jack. Don't remove the subframe, just put the jack under it and remove the bolts. You'll have to tilt the motor a little to get the tranny out. Dropping the motor down with a jack under the subframe will tilt the tranny side of it down. It's a really tight fit getting that tranny out.
yea i kinda figured that...The jack trick is used on the majority of all tranny cases. Use this technique, as it will save you a good hours worth of unnecessary disassembly.

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Old Apr 27, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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This is good info, I'll probably be doing the same job on sunday. This looks much different than when I did it on my 3rd Gen...
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We practically took everything out.

Manifolds, exhaust, axles, blah blah blah.

...But then again we were doing tranny replacement.
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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Wait is Saterday the 8th day of the week? Is it before or after Saturday?
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Derrick2k2SE
You don't have to remove the Y-pipe or any exhaust. You do have to unbolt the subframe and support the motor with a jack. Don't remove the subframe, just put the jack under it and remove the bolts. You'll have to tilt the motor a little to get the tranny out. Dropping the motor down with a jack under the subframe will tilt the tranny side of it down. It's a really tight fit getting that tranny out.

ya that sounds right, how much should I drop the subframe?

2-3-5 inches?

Cause i think it crosses the y-pipe so you cant drop it much without removing the y-pipe.

This looks way harder than the 4thgen job
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Just drop it enough to get the tranny out. You may have to play with raising and lowering it. Don't worry about the y-pipe. It'll move up and down with the motor/subframe.
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Insert Tool into clutch disc hub when installing clutch cover and disc.
Be careful not to allow grease to contaminate clutch facing.
Tighten bolts in numerical order. First step: 10 - 19 Nm (1 - 2 kgf-cm, 8 - 14 ft. lbs.)
Final step: 35 - 44 Nm (3.5 - 4.5 kgf-cm, 26 - 32 ft. lbs.)
Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:30 PM
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Removal

Remove the crankshaft position sensor (POS) from transaxle assembly before separating transaxle from engine.
Be careful not to damage sensor edge.



CAUTION:

1. Remove battery and its bracket.
2. Remove air duct and air cleaner box with mass air flow sensor.
3. Remove air breather hose.



4. Disconnect control cable from transaxle.
5. Remove control cable mounting bracket.



6. Remove clutch operating cylinder from transaxle.
7. Disconnect PNP switch, back-up lamp switch and ground harness connectors.

Old Apr 27, 2007 | 06:31 PM
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8. Remove starter motor from transaxle.
9. Remove crankshaft position sensor (POS) from transaxle front side.



10. Drain gear oil from transaxle.
11. Draw out drive shafts from transaxle.
12. Support engine of transaxle by placing a jack under oil pan.
CAUTION: Do not place jack under oil pan drain plug.
13. Remove center member.



14. Remove LH mount.
15. Remove bolts securing transaxle.
16. Lower transaxle while supporting it with a jack.




Installation






* Tighten LH mount and center member bolts.
* Tighten clutch operating cylinder bolts.
* Install drive shafts.
* Tighten all transaxle bolts and any part removed.
Old Apr 28, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Thanks for all your input and help guys, the job went smooth.


I did loosen the 4 main bolts for the subframe , dropped it about 2 inches or so.

The tranny came out easy but was alil tricky to put back in ...

Started at 7am and finished shortly after at 12pm with no breaks , then we cleaned up. Air tools were a big help and my friiend helped me out with everything.

Wasnt to much diffrent from the 4th gen install.
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I'm trying to replace the clutch on my 2001...it's my first clutch job and has been a bit of an adventure so far. Nonetheless, I have made it to the point where you remove the bolts holding the transaxle to the engine. Assuming the factory manual is correct, I have successfully located and removed all but one. The manual shows one on either side of the hole for the starter. I found the one closest to the front of the car, but the one to the rear eludes me. Hoping that it was a mistake in the manual I tried dropping the tranny, but it didn't separate from the engine, so I am guessing that the phantom bolt really exists. Either that or I am doing something else wrong.

Any thoughts? Here's a pic...

Thanks,

JW

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Bump...thanks...

JW
Old May 31, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Bump...thanks...

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Take a look from directly underneath, engine side. You'll be able to see it. It's right above the passenger side axle seal..

Personally, I get it with a ratchet wrench, but you can also do an extension and socket from above/through the motor mount bracket.

From http://www.motorvate.ca/mvp.php/805 -


You can see the bolt hole (right next to a dowel) directly above the RH axle seal in this pic.
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