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Old Jul 14, 2001 | 08:32 AM
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How much do Eibach Pro's drop? 1.5"?? I'm thinking of keeping my 16's and just dropping my car. The wheel diameter of 215-55-16 is exactly the same as 245-45-17. (25.3") I was going to get the 17's partially to eliminate the wheel gap, but the 17's will offer the same exact wheel gap that I have now. 18's and 19's are too expensive (for me).

For those who have the Eibach Pro's, does the ride get much stiffer? I expect some, but I have no idea how much.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:06 AM
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Newbie Q's coming from Paul?

The FAQ has drop numbers. The Eibachs are going to make your ride stiff, not as stiff as if you had 17's, but stiff. I can't really describe it, so you have to take a ride with someone who has them.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:19 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Newbie Q's coming from Paul?

The FAQ has drop numbers. The Eibachs are going to make your ride stiff, not as stiff as if you had 17's, but stiff. I can't really describe it, so you have to take a ride with someone who has them.
so the ride switchin from 16 inchers to 17s are are stiffer than from 16s to eibachs?
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy


so the ride switchin from 16 inchers to 17s are are stiffer than from 16s to eibachs?
I meant... 17s with Eibachs.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:25 AM
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I meant... 17s with Eibachs.
ehh my bad.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:27 AM
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Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:50 AM
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Oops. I didn't realize that was in there. Actually... I was throwing softballs out there to make you feel good Kev. Thanks for the feedback. Not too many guys have Eibach Pros with 16's around here. I know Punkdork does, but that's a little far.

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The FAQ has drop numbers. The Eibachs are going to make your ride stiff, not as stiff as if you had 17's, but stiff. I can't really describe it, so you have to take a ride with someone who has them.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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Hell, I love my Eibachs and 18s. Yes the bumps hurt... especially if you hit something medium size or bigger. Your whole car shudders. But if you want the handling, you pay the price. Personally, I'm used to it already.

How stiff? Enough to make you want to avoid everything resembling a bump. But God, if you enjoy running through the curves and making the perfect pass at 90+, live with it.



For some reason Paul, I thought you already dropped your car. But your ride should be bearable with 16". Especially if it is stock.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:58 AM
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Your car is sweet! I remember seeing your rims in NY, but I didn't notice the nice drop. I wasn't paying attention. Wheel gap is on my mind these days. I love GT1's. I don't have the money to spring for those right now though. Integrals are on sale right now at Tire Rack, but still a little out of my budget.

Originally posted by GXE Spoiler
Hell, I love my Eibachs and 18s. Yes the bumps hurt... especially if you hit something medium size or bigger. Your whole car shudders. But if you want the handling, you pay the price. Personally, I'm used to it already.

How stiff? Enough to make you want to avoid everything resembling a bump. But God, if you enjoy running through the curves and making the perfect pass at 90+, live with it.



For some reason Paul, I thought you already dropped your car. But your ride should be bearable with 16". Especially if it is stock.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
Your car is sweet! I remember seeing your rims in NY, but I didn't notice the nice drop. I wasn't paying attention. Wheel gap is on my mind these days. I love GT1's. I don't have the money to spring for those right now though. Integrals are on sale right now at Tire Rack, but still a little out of my budget.

Thanks Paul. The bigger rims makes the car look like it is using the stock suspension. You should have seen it before I got the drop! It was an SUV! The only people that would really know would be Maxima enthusiasts. If the cops just pass it off as a stock Maxima with clears in the front, that is fine with me!

As for your rims, I would stay stock until you find something you really like. I played with the pictures on Tirerack about 100 times... trying to find a good match rim with a drop. I was actually thinking about the Integral, but I wanted a larger rim. I originally was going to go with the 19" Moda's. But I had concerns about the ride quality too. So I settled on 18s. GT1s wasn't my first choice... but after playing with the pics enough times, I decided to go with them.

So, I suggest you get the drop first... then get the rims later. Because once you have them, your stuck with them.
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Re: .

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


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Old Jul 14, 2001 | 01:30 PM
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Can somebody tell me how much eibach recomends cutting the bumpstops. I know it's like one ring but what is the acual mm amount. I already have them on but am getting ready to put the cattmans on and want to make sure its the same.
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Old Jul 14, 2001 | 01:36 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out
Can somebody tell me how much eibach recomends cutting the bumpstops. I know it's like one ring but what is the acual mm amount. I already have them on but am getting ready to put the cattmans on and want to make sure its the same.
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You don't have to be that precise. One ring will do for the Eibachs. Did you read about the fitment problem for the Cattman coilovers?
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I already have the cattmans. Brian sent everybody that ordered them all info needed. The only thing i ever heard was the offset was slightly different. I still want to know the exzact measurment that eibach recomends. Since theve already been cut i want to know if i should get knew bumpstops and cut them for the cattmans.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 05:20 PM
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Do most of the aftermarket spring installations require cutting the bump stops? ie-H&R, Sprint, Koni, etc. I checked the FAQ Kev

Originally posted by Y2KevSE


You don't have to be that precise. One ring will do for the Eibachs. Did you read about the fitment problem for the Cattman coilovers?
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
Do most of the aftermarket spring installations require cutting the bump stops? ie-H&R, Sprint, Koni, etc. I checked the FAQ Kev


yes, I think all aftermarket springs that sit lower than the stock springs will require you to cut the bump stops a little bit. The bump stops control suspension travel.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 05:41 PM
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Yes they all require it.
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 05:48 PM
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Camber?

Did anyone experience camber problems or correct/adjust their camber after installing the springs?

I found this on the Shox.com FAQ:

Q. Do I need camber kits if I lower my car?

A. Whenever you lower a car with shorter springs, it creates negative camber. This has some benefits for handling but can cause the tires to wear more towards the inside instead of right down the middle. Many cars do not have enough adjustment to return the camber to original factory specifications. On most cars, if the lowering effect is 25mm to 35mm, and you keep the tires well rotated, you should get the full life expectancy of the tires even with the negative camber. Otherwise camber adjustment kits can be purchased for many applications that make it possible to adjust the camber closer to the original specifications.
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Unless you slam your car, a camber adjustment is not necessary. The eibach drop is only around 1", so a camber adjustment is not needed. The maxima camber can not be adjusted anyways without the use of camber plates....
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 05:58 PM
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Some people are using Sprint and other aggressive springs that drop up to 2 inches. I wonder if they bother with the camber plates or not? I believe Tony C. did for his '99 SEL.

Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
Unless you slam your car, a camber adjustment is not necessary. The eibach drop is only around 1", so a camber adjustment is not needed. The maxima camber can not be adjusted anyways without the use of camber plates....
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 06:03 PM
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with 2" you may be pushing it a little, but Ithink Kev is dropped 2" on his coilovers and he doesn't have camber plates as far as I know....
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 06:06 PM
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You mean Crazy SC Auto Kev? LOL.

Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
with 2" you may be pushing it a little, but Ithink Kev is dropped 2" on his coilovers and he doesn't have camber plates as far as I know....
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Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
You mean Crazy SC Auto Kev? LOL.


yup.....
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Originally posted by max'n out
I already have the cattmans. Brian sent everybody that ordered them all info needed. The only thing i ever heard was the offset was slightly different. I still want to know the exzact measurment that eibach recomends. Since theve already been cut i want to know if i should get knew bumpstops and cut them for the cattmans.
With the Cattman's I recommend cutting 2 rings because you have the ability to drop the car even lower.


Originally posted by Paul2kGXE
You mean Crazy SC Auto Kev? LOL.



My car is dropped more than 2" and I have lots of negative camber (rice boy look). I'll be getting plates as soon as I get the Greddy.

Nauman for laughing. Hehehe
Old Jul 14, 2001 | 07:15 PM
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I was not looking for opinions. I saw somewhere in the instructions Brain sent that the bumpstop should be cut 33mm, which is what i thought the eibachs sugest. Can somebody just look at there paper that comes with the eibach springs and tell me what it says.
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Originally posted by max'n out
I was not looking for opinions. I saw somewhere in the instructions Brain sent that the bumpstop should be cut 33mm, which is what i thought the eibachs sugest. Can somebody just look at there paper that comes with the eibach springs and tell me what it says.
OK, no more of my opinions for you anymore. If you think 33mm is good enough, have at it. Don't say I didn't warn you.

I hope you don't accidentally cut 35mm because they have to be 33mm.
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I'm just looking for a straight answer, don't get offended. I'm going off of what the designer of these coilovers says. So... What is it that eibach recomends. I thought i remembered 33mm front 26 rear is that right? Somebody must still have the paper that says.
Originally posted by Y2KevSE


OK, no more of my opinions for you anymore. If you think 33mm is good enough, have at it. Don't say I didn't warn you.
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