ok some guy at work is talking mad sshhh, about how he can smoke me in my automatic max. I have no mods other than a FTSB and he has an intake. It's not cold air. I know that I can take him but those things are pretty fast. What do you all think???

 

a good shifter for an SI should run somewhere in the mid-high 15s.. close race. since you auto, you'll be runnin somewhere in the high 15s. torque brake and take off a little eaerlier than him and you should get him. off the line you should take him too.. 4 banger, but once the VTEC kicks in, he'll catch up a bit.

 

Watch out with the SI though he may only have intake it well still help him out more than you think...my friend has an SI and everytime we run he beats me off the line and in the long run i start pullin him but sometimes i take the OD off the start and it seems to help well good luck

 

I raced my coworkers stock SI against my at the time stock auto Max. I had an extra passenger also and he was alone. We raced from a light and I did not launch it. I ended up ahead by a car length up to 60-70 mph before we had to shut it down. He was shifting well also. He chirped his wheels on the 1-2 shift.

 

I think if you race from a roll you can beat him....the added torque the max has should pull him.

 

Stock vs. stock an Accord V6 will take an Si.

The Si is a little bit faster on paper, but driving an Si to its full potential requires PERFECT driving and most Si drivers can't drive nearly as good as they can talk the ****

With powershifting the Max/automagic is a little bit faster than a stock Accord V6, so that might be the difference between a stock Si and this particular Si with an intake so it will still probably be pretty even.

Just practice launching and powershifting and I think you should be able to take him because remember, most Si drivers talk **** worlds better than they can drive

 

yup, the Civic SIs are pretty close. Maybe I wasn't fully accelerating... but this one I happened to be driving ehem... next too, stayed basically right beside me the hole time except I was a bit farther ahead by a fender and he had a better start... oh, I have a 5 speed and shifted slow

 

On the highway you will kill a SI. Briguymax and I raced a Honda SI and both us pulled many cars on this guy. He was so far behind by 120 that it wasnt funny and this guy had mods too!!

 

i raced a Si about 2 weeks ago on freeway.
he was already going like 85mph or so when he passed me.
i caught up to me but that little car still had some good juice in the engine...we were racing all the way up to about 120...but there were traffic and i had to slow down considerable times. that Si was still faster than i expected. i guess for rolling races like these, the differences are minimal. haven't raced on off the line, so i don't know how close these things will get.

 

I was messing with a Si on the AC expressway all the way down to I-95 and into Maryland. He was all riced out, there was some sort of rice convention in Atlantic City, my stock 5 speed basically walked on him the whole trip. It was funny, he was getting upset, I would toy with him, let him catch up and then hammer down and pull on him. My co-worker has an Si that he beats the **** out of, he won't race me though, he knows better.

 

I raced a modded SI from a 30mph roll-on. By 70 I was pretty far a head. I think he probably didnt shift as well as he should have because he shold've been able to keep up better than he did.

 

What do you mean?

 

Just like the Type-R, the Civic Si is really hard to drive to extract its performance. If drive recklessly, those Hondas are extremely quick. Whenever I drive ITR, I drive it like I stole it!

 

The B16 engine in the Civic Si only has 111 lb-ft of torque - real wussy. The engine makes all of its power by being able to maintain that tiny amount of torque at very high rpm's and not through brute force like a larger displacement engine that revs lower. So around town the thing won't have any more pep than a Civic EX.

Launching is also extremely difficult, as with any car with no low-end torque. I think Si's get the performance numbers that they do (low-mid-7 0-60's, high-15/low-16 1/4 ET's) through very abusive high-rpm clutch drops. You can't launch "normally" without bogging, and the only way to get a good launch is to spin the engine all the way up to the VTEC engagement rpm (like 5500 rpm I think on the Si) and then walk out the clutch from there

One of our Accord V6'ers raced a modded Si at the track and the Si did something like a 15.40 vs the V6's 15.44, and the Si was modded with an intake and headers and maybe pulleys too - (the same on the V6) and the Si guy did have his launch down very well too.

I think you should be able to beat him - easily if he can't launch well, but it might be close if he's a VERY good driver.

Race and let us know!

 

Although it only has 110torque, but keep in mind that the Honda gear boxes are close ratio. They don't need high RPM to get torque, they have good torque even at low rpm. The Civic Si is a cornering car, the high revving engine is to help the car entering and exiting the corner at extreme RPM. They are not straight line oriented car. Also, Honda gear boxes are extremely efficent, their Si puts out 100ft/lb of troque to the wheels.

 

Just Toast the Rice Cooker. Either way you'll find out.

 

Well I saw him race another Civic (EX) and this guy smoked him so bad. This guy definetly is not afraid to launch. I was amazed at how fast he took off with 100 some ft lbs of torque. Thing is the other guys head gasket blew so that is why he got beat so bad. I think. And also there are a few cops around there since they have a small office by where i work. He even followed me after i left work to try to get me to race and he claims that he reved on me when we met at a light and that i chicken out. I didn't even know it was him and i even looked at the driver and did not recognize him. i thought it was someone else. but he thinks his car is the fastest and talks alot of trash from time to time. His freinds are quick to make teh assumption that my car will loss. Maybe? My car has it's better days. Lately however it seems as if it's having problems (tranny might be slipping ) i think deep down he knows exactly what a Maxima is capable of. Thanks guys for the info and if we race when we get a chance I'll let you know the outcome. Should be a good race.