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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 05:48 PM
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First time at the track...very dissapointed

Ok so I finally took my 2k2 MT to the track hoping to at least get somewhere in low 14's well my first run I bogged off the start and missed second:

R/T: .934
60': 2.467
330: 6.652
1/8: 10.099 @ 70.80mph
1000:13.042
1/4: 15.496 @ 91.98

Next run I thought I had a good start and caught all my gears but...

R/T: .660
60': 2.412
330': 6.465
1/8: 9.764 @ 74.58mph
1000': 12.587
1/4: 14.979 @ 94.09

Last run I wheel hopped like crazy but after that did alright...

R/T: .764
60': 2.467
330': 6.506
1/8: 9.811 @ 74.50mph
1000': 12.644
1/4: 15.039 @ 93.95mph

My mods are Injen WAI, Megan Racing Test Pipe, Tsudo N-1 Catback...I know I need to work on my 60' times, but still..
Old Jul 3, 2007 | 06:45 AM
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Well it can only get better from here.. lol

Did you let the car cool in between runs?

I won't state the obvious about the 60 fts but...

Those traps are pretty low so you're not getting power to the ground well.. what wheels/tires did you use? Ever consider headers/y-pipe?
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Hey, I just ran a 06 300C Hemi @ LACR and the best I could get it to go was 15.20@93MPH you should feel good, !!!
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Well a lot of it I think has to do with my intake, b/c there is like no power in under 3000rpm's and when I launch it stays below that for a while so I am going to try and get it to where it jumps up above 3000 and hopefully it will get going a little better.
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Is the 02 a 3.5?
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Is the 02 a 3.5?
If the sky is blue.

Originally Posted by pimpin02max
Well a lot of it I think has to do with my intake,
No way GET OUT!!
Old Jul 4, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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No way GET OUT!!
LOL...yeah I finally get to the track so I finally have some proof that the Injen doesn't do it's justice...sorry for not listening . I just put my stock intake on and just swiss cheesed the intake at the front part and then 1/2 way did the Irish GAB by just drilling small holes in all of the spots between the ridges on the filter top. My low end is much better and to be honest I can't even really tell much of a difference in my top end...so I am much happier, I can't wait to get back to the track...so now it is my experience that modified STOCK intake...
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Hmmm... a 3.5 trapping at 94 mph doesn't sound right to me... regardless of 60 foot time. right NmexMax?
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Well Epacy has headers, catback, intake and some other goodies and he only ran a 14.5 @ 95mph so running just a 14.9 @ 94mph can't be to low of a trap, I put my stock intake back on and I am going to try to go to the track this Tuesday and hopefully get some good times, I really think I should be getting somewhere in the mid 14's with this car.
Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Steve68
Hey, I just ran a 06 300C Hemi @ LACR and the best I could get it to go was 15.20@93MPH you should feel good, !!!
LACR in california?
Old Jul 6, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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Well Epacy has headers, catback, intake and some other goodies and he only ran a 14.5 @ 95mph so running just a 14.9 @ 94mph can't be to low of a trap, I put my stock intake back on and I am going to try to go to the track this Tuesday and hopefully get some good times, I really think I should be getting somewhere in the mid 14's with this car.
well from what i hear from 96% PPL ON here is that with your mods , you should be running a low 14... Some say even 13.9xx..............sorry is it 6 spd??

Also ppl forget that you have to configure in altitude etc...

if u r 3000 ft up its aronud .4 or .5 slower... there is a link somewhere...

ANYWAY... lower that tire preasure and that might help get better traction off the line...

GOOD LUCK and keep posting
Old Jul 6, 2007 | 11:54 AM
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The track is Gateway International Raceway in Lebanon IL, I don't think I would go as far as to say I will hit 13.9's, I only have a test pipe (1hp), catback (maybe 5hp), and now the stock airbox. It is a 6-speed, but seriously though I just got back from taking the car out and man!!!!!! It is so so much faster with the stock modified intake, it pulls so much harder in the low end!!! I really think that with my setup I have right now my car is capable of getting probably somewhere in the 14.2-14.4 range which isn't bad considering basically it's a stock Maxima, after I sell my Intake I am either looking to buy a Warpspeed Y-pipe or the Nissan Works Phenolic IM Spacers kit...not sure which one yet though.
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Don't waste your time w/ a y-pipe on a VQ35. Do real mods, i.e. headers/larger MAF housing + piggyback.

Stock cat-back can support ~250fwhp, so don't worry about it either. Spacers are a good idea also.
Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Hmmm i guess i should spoil myself and get the full cattman 6th gen header setup when it comes out... follow it up by getting the kinteix intake.. a nice tune.. and BAM!!!!! 13.5's hahah
Old Jul 6, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Well I am only 16 so I am limited to my money right now but I will probably end up just getting the spacers for now but I really would like to get a set of the Cattman Headers and I had an Apexi SAFC-2 but ended up selling it, I already have an aftermarket exhaust and cat. And what's the deal with the larger MAF housing...never heard anything on it???
Old Jul 6, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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search if your freind...use the maf from the bmw 4.4 V8? SR20DEN is the first one who shed the light on the larger maf.
Old Jul 10, 2007 | 10:40 AM
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are you on the stock wheel/tire set up?
Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:52 PM
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Yep...oh yeah I put my Injen back on but this time I did the "short ram" Injen that I hear people talk about, it seems pretty good. I was gonna run again tonight but it started to pour down rain...
Old Jul 10, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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i agree that the traps are low. what altitude did you run at temp and humidity would help too. i trapped 95 in my old stock 02 auto, you should be able to pull at least 97-98. power to the ground seems to be a problem here. unless youre haing an maf problem, just need to practice the shifts and launch you should be in the low 14s
Old Jul 11, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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LACR in california?
That would be the one, went Wednesday night, ran 10 times in an 1.5 hrs, It was a rental, had to see how fast it was, and I wanted to run there since it's going away, too bad.
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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something sucked at the track that night. it was pretty humid and the mid track prep wasnt good at all. i blew the drag radials off on the shift to 2nd and third. also something was bad that night because i trapped 109 with an 80 shot and all i could muster that night was 108.
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:17 AM
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You're basically losing power....test pipe? probably nothing. catback? nothing. injen? LOSS. That's not enough to give you such crappy trap speeds, but that's somewhere to start....
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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i gained trap speed with an injen, but not ET. probly from the small gain in upper RPMs and drop in lower, i launched slower but at half track i would be gaining faster (just a guess, makes sense)
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I think the next time after I air up the rear tires more and let out some in the front my launch will be alot better to where I won't wheel hop so I can hit it faster, the reason the Injen would be hurting me is because since it is taking me so long to get above about 3500rpm's it is really slowing me down since all my power is high rpm power...also I changed the Injen to the "short ram" kind because it supposedly gives you some low end back and although it's nothing like the stock intake it is a gain over the full Injen...
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
I think the next time after I air up the rear tires more and let out some in the front my launch will be alot better to where I won't wheel hop so I can hit it faster, the reason the Injen would be hurting me is because since it is taking me so long to get above about 3500rpm's it is really slowing me down since all my power is high rpm power...also I changed the Injen to the "short ram" kind because it supposedly gives you some low end back and although it's nothing like the stock intake it is a gain over the full Injen...
What did you have your tires set to when you went?
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What did you have your tires set to when you went?
35psi all the way around...
Old Jul 19, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
I think the next time after I air up the rear tires more and let out some in the front my launch will be alot better to where I won't wheel hop so I can hit it faster, the reason the Injen would be hurting me is because since it is taking me so long to get above about 3500rpm's it is really slowing me down since all my power is high rpm power...also I changed the Injen to the "short ram" kind because it supposedly gives you some low end back and although it's nothing like the stock intake it is a gain over the full Injen...
But the thing I'm wondering about is your trap SPEED. Even when I had the most horrible launches ever (I got several 2.6 60') and missed 3rd gear I trapped at around 98. 94 is just way too low for your car...maybe something's wrong? I'd try replacing your maf if I were you, just in case.
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But the thing I'm wondering about is your trap SPEED. Even when I had the most horrible launches ever (I got several 2.6 60') and missed 3rd gear I trapped at around 98. 94 is just way too low for your car...maybe something's wrong? I'd try replacing your maf if I were you, just in case.
IDK if I believe that...I don't see how if you did that bad that your trap speed would be the same as your best run...94mph for a 14.9 isn't that bad...is it? You have to remember that before I hit about 4000rpm's in first I am going about 15-20mph for a while b/c of how boggy the intake is and that I think is why my trap speed are so low b/c those few feet I'm going are a few less feet to get more mph.
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Ok, I just took a vid of me going 40-80, 2nd gear I had it mashed all the way and then I granny shifted into 3rd b/c it was hard to hold the camera and shift...

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=13523744
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im sorry theres something wrong. i remember when i had a full injen it wasnt nearly that bad. now i have the custom short injen and thats my acceleration in 4th from 80

Edit: actually i guess i dont have a short injen, the only injen peice i have left is the maf adapter. now i just have filter, maf, breather adapter, TB
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Here is another vid of my getting on it from 25mph-90mph, I don't get on it until 4000rpm's....

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=13549849

Oh yeah I probably should mention the temperature was 96degrees...
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 10:20 AM
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IDK if I believe that...I don't see how if you did that bad that your trap speed would be the same as your best run...94mph for a 14.9 isn't that bad...is it? You have to remember that before I hit about 4000rpm's in first I am going about 15-20mph for a while b/c of how boggy the intake is and that I think is why my trap speed are so low b/c those few feet I'm going are a few less feet to get more mph.
It's still bad...60' time doesn't have that much of an effect on trap speed...I got a 15.150 but still trapped at 97. And a 14.7 with a 2.6 60' and still trapped at 98....The videos definitely make me think you have something wrong with your car. It was 97 degrees here the other day with 80+ percent humidity and my car didn't hesitate at all...
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Yeah i agree with LA02MAX. my 4th gen 5spd with the USIM when it was bone stock ran almost the same. 14.89@93.4, and trust me it has alot more kms then your car! your car definately should be running faster, the 5.5 6spds stock are capable of mid to low 14's. I think you need some more practice at the track. Your 60fts need a lot of work, and if you could get those down your times will too, but your mph wont be effected too much, which leads me to believe you have some engine issues. have you replaced the MAF yet?
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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No I haven't replaced the MAF...I don't think anything is wrong with my car...last night I was on the highway with like 6 other Maxima's, one which was a 5.5 gen but AT, I ran him and from a 40 punch I beat him by 3 or so links, from a 60 I beat him by about 1 1/2-2 links.

Why don't one of you guys post up a vid of your cars so I can have something to compare mine to instead of just saying that my car is slow???
Old Jul 22, 2007 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
No I haven't replaced the MAF...I don't think anything is wrong with my car...last night I was on the highway with like 6 other Maxima's, one which was a 5.5 gen but AT, I ran him and from a 40 punch I beat him by 3 or so links, from a 60 I beat him by about 1 1/2-2 links.

Why don't one of you guys post up a vid of your cars so I can have something to compare mine to instead of just saying that my car is slow???
Look back a page or 2 or in the database, and you'll see that your time is bad vs other cars of the same tranny and engine combo. It's not rocket science, take some time to search for a thread relative to your situation.
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Id post clips of my acceleration runs, but seeing as my car is in kmh, its kinda weird/hard to compare. check youtube, there lots of diff speedo clips up there.
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Originally Posted by pimpin02max
No I haven't replaced the MAF...I don't think anything is wrong with my car...last night I was on the highway with like 6 other Maxima's, one which was a 5.5 gen but AT, I ran him and from a 40 punch I beat him by 3 or so links, from a 60 I beat him by about 1 1/2-2 links.

Why don't one of you guys post up a vid of your cars so I can have something to compare mine to instead of just saying that my car is slow???
Don't think that we're trying to attack you, because that's certainly not the case...I was trying to give you some advice. No matter how bad your launch is, you really should be trapping higher...I would go make a vid, but my camera is out of batteries. I suggest changing your MAF. It's only $90 and it's worth it to have a spare in case one goes completely bad...
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Yeah your 60ft mainly effects your time. not really your MPH. 94MPH is low for a 3.5.

Usually you can judge how fast a car can run by its MPH..if a car is running 15's @ 108mph, its obviously having traction issues, even if you nail your 60ft and pull off a 2.1 you still would run maybe a 14.6-14.7 but your mph wont really change.
Old Jul 24, 2007 | 10:45 AM
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Yeah your 60ft mainly effects your time. not really your MPH. 94MPH is low for a 3.5.
case in point: many of us, like me, have traction problems. i was running 2.48 60's at 99.5 mph after missing third last time with an embarassing time of 14.4 (6spd). the only mods i have that you dont are y-pipe and base timing advance. those arent big gainers on 5.5 gens so you should be up there in the 97mph or higher range. because of my mph i know my car is healthy and has much better ET's in it. in your case, the MPH is low so we can figure that your car is not completely healthy and you need to get in there and check it out
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The only other thing that might be affecting your trap speed, besides your car having a problem and the weather being exceedingly poor, is that you might be a really slow shifter. The more time you spend with your foot on the clutch between gears, the less time you are spending accelerating.

Regardless of what you believe, that trap speed is very very low. I trapped higher than that in a full weight, 175k mile, completely stock 95 max that I've gone 15k miles in between oil changes on occasion lol. I'm not saying this to be mean, I'm saying your car definitely has more in it if you get the problems figured out.

I'd expect times of more like 14.5 @ 97 for a merely average driver. You've got a ways to go, but you'll improve. Just see if you can figure out where the power's gone and get to the track for some more practice.



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