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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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removing c pillars

im trying to remove my rear speakers and i was just wondering, do i just pry it off with a flathead screwdriver or are there little tabs holding it down?
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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you do not need to remove the c pillars to get at the rear speakers.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 03:59 PM
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he's right,my bro took out his pretty easy and simple.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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c pillars

Right!! dont pull the c pils, they crack VERY easy. pop the plastic hold downs from the trunk with the handle of a screwdriver, and from the inside, "bend" the rear deck CAREFULLY and EVEN to get to the speakers.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 05:45 PM
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do i have to take out the seats?? how about the 3rd brake light?? i was reading the interior sticky and how to remove them.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Umm there is some miss-information here: yes you do need to remove the "c-pillars" behine the rear window, and yeah u CAN use a screw driver to pop the pillar but be very careful, they sit REALLY tight in there and i thought and felt like i was going to break mine, but didn't. have lots of patience with this job and dont skip steps...

The rear seats some out, the rear window pillars come out, the 3rd break light comes out, the rear wool deck comes outas well, everything must go in that order

here is the writeup i used to help me change my rear speakers

http://www.vqpower.com/v2/readarticle.php?article_id=39
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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thats the one that was in the sticky. that's the one i was referring to. thanks for the input. what other method of removing the c-pillar would you suggest?

EDIT: are they held on by tabs? if so, can you tell me where they are? thanks.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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yes you do need to remove the "c-pillars" behine the rear window
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Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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The right way would be to remove one if not both of them. You can however do it the other way.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by maxima985spd
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so do i just push up the deck?
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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i found them pretty easy to pop just pulled the rubber seal back and popped it off slowly with a clip remover.
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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so do i just push up the deck?
Yea pretty much, if i remember correctly you can push down on the deck because the c-pillar has tabs that come down into holes in the deck. i would rather not remove the c-pillar because they crack so easily...
Old Jul 13, 2007 | 11:08 PM
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well mine did not crack and if u want it done the RIGHT way then u have to remove the pillars, they basically SIT on the rear deck, u can try and fiddle with it if u remove ONE although ure gona have a tough time taking the pillar out of the deck fitting holes. Its a lot easier to remove both, and its not hard at all...

just have a firm grip and pull slowly until they unsnap, dont **** ur pants if u hear some cracking, its the clips coming out of the metal frame, NOT the plastic breaking as maxima985spd suggests.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by andrei3333
well mine did not crack and if u want it done the RIGHT way then u have to remove the pillars, they basically SIT on the rear deck, u can try and fiddle with it if u remove ONE although ure gona have a tough time taking the pillar out of the deck fitting holes. Its a lot easier to remove both, and its not hard at all...

just have a firm grip and pull slowly until they unsnap, dont **** ur pants if u hear some cracking, its the clips coming out of the metal frame, NOT the plastic breaking as maxima985spd suggests.
are there tabs else where that i can press in or something to remove it? or do i just have to pull it out?
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Just pull. I used a long screw driver on the front bottom edge to get started. Then after that used my fingers to feel behind the plastic for the clips and pull/push. Very easy to do. Just take your time with them.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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alright thanks for the help guys.

if any other additional info that people left out comes up, feel free to post.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:24 AM
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are there tabs else where that i can press in or something to remove it? or do i just have to pull it out?
Ok picture this.

The pillars are connected to the car by like 4 little plastic pins. the rear deck is under the pillars. the rear deck also has i think 2 or 3 holes on each side where the pillars slide in. i dont see how u can bend or push on the deck to slide it out without removing the pillars because the deck is connected to the trunk by like 6 plastic pins.

basically do this: remove rear seats, thats easy, then at the rear of the passengers windows take a flat head and carefully untuck the rubber weathering strip that holds the pillar. then with your hand slowly but with good force pull on the pillar from that location close to the window.

One or two pins will unsnap, it WILL sound like u cracked plastic but u will not. then if u have trouble with the rest of the pins under the pillar take the flat head screw driver and pry the pins out. be careful with the seatbelt, there is a stoppper under the pillar...

does that help in any way ? look at the link i provided earlier, its the same way how i did it.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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yea, that's the link i looked at first. i will do it sometime soon and let you know how it goes.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 12:22 PM
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i thought so. he he he
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Ahh, I wish I knew this before I did my speaker install. I removed EVERYTHING to get to those speakers. Cracked a c-pillar too.
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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how did u remove the c pillars that u cracked them?
Old Jul 14, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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I never removed mine. After popping the 4 clips that held down the rear deck, I put my hand under the card board deck (in the center) and arched it up. After noticing that the deck was held down in the rear corners by the C-pillar tabs, I just loosened up the bottom of the pillars and eased out the deck by pushing down on the corners of it. Make sense?
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by VTonmymind
I never removed mine. After popping the 4 clips that held down the rear deck, I put my hand under the card board deck (in the center) and arched it up. After noticing that the deck was held down in the rear corners by the C-pillar tabs, I just loosened up the bottom of the pillars and eased out the deck by pushing down on the corners of it. Make sense?

did you remove the rear seats?



also since we are talking about rear speakers. the maxima i have is a 96 not with bose. came with some small 5x4 i think. can i put a 6x9 speaker in there?
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthStar019
did you remove the rear seats?



also since we are talking about rear speakers. the maxima i have is a 96 not with bose. came with some small 5x4 i think. can i put a 6x9 speaker in there?
Yep. Have to. The biggest pain for me was trying to put the buggers back in, but all in all, it wasn't that bad. Anyway.....you rear deck speakers are 6.5's. Pretty sure anyways, mine are. If your considering speaker options, go with some nice round 6.5's coaxials, not the oval 6x9's. I'm not a huge audiophile so I can't rightfully explain, but sound is better coming from a round speaker, not an oval one.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 08:43 PM
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the reason i asked. i already have 6x9's from my older maxima. so thinking of just swaping them over.

so the back seat has to come out.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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how did u remove the c pillars that u cracked them?
I was just wedging it out and I heard a crack. You can't really tell it's there unless you LOOK for it though.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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the reason i asked. i already have 6x9's from my older maxima. so thinking of just swaping them over.

so the back seat has to come out.
Then by all means, slap them back in if they work for you.

And yep, the seats gotta come out. The prospect may seem intimidating or tiresome, but it's really not all that bad. It'll be a good learning experience. I'm certainly glad I know how to take my seats out with confidence now. Now it's time for me to figure out how to take my B-pillar off. I've got this rattle under the passenger side B pillar (somewhere in the seat belt harness area) and it's wearing me out.


Oh and check out post 6 for a little guidance on the process. If you don't want to, you don't have to completely take off the pillars. Just loosen up the bottoms for a little wiggle room to get the tabs out of the deck. I also noticed that he pushes up the deck clips from the trunk, but you can just pull up on the deck from the inside and the clips will pop quite easily.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SouthStar019
did you remove the rear seats?
also since we are talking about rear speakers. the maxima i have is a 96 not with bose. came with some small 5x4 i think. can i put a 6x9 speaker in there?
Wrong, the maxima comes with 6.5" speakers in the rear as well as the front, if u feel like cutting the metal in there u can even fit 8" or 10" subwoofers if u like, but as far as going from 6.5" to 6x9 speakers, there is no point because u will not hear any difference what so ever.
Old Jul 16, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by VTonmymind
I'm not a huge audiophile so I can't rightfully explain, but sound is better coming from a round speaker, not an oval one.
You don't have to be an audiophile to figure this one out. Perfectly round speakers are more rigid then oval shaped speakers, thus they will distort less at higher volume. An oval speaker may produce more base due to a larger surface area, but that can be wiped out by buying higher end round speakers which use stiffer materials and stronger surround insulation. This is all of of course theory, in the real world, especially in a car (which is just a plain box as far as the speaker is concerned) you will not see the difference...
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by andrei3333
Wrong, the maxima comes with 6.5" speakers in the rear as well as the front, if u feel like cutting the metal in there u can even fit 8" or 10" subwoofers if u like, but as far as going from 6.5" to 6x9 speakers, there is no point because u will not hear any difference what so ever.
ok. since you claim to be always right on every thing. i didnt say i was going to buy new ones. i said i already had 6x9's from my older maxima so it would be more of a swap. so it can be done?
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 04:50 PM
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ok. since you claim to be always right on every thing
hang on, can u show me where i claimed that ?

yeah it can be done if u wanna cut the metal deck a bit, i would suggest not going through this trouble just to put some old speakers in there, what happens if they pop a month later then u gota take everything apart again, might as well do it good the first time no ?
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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i dunno just from reading your other posts gave me the feeling. sorry if that offended you in any way.


they are not just any old speakers. they happen to be a pair of boston acrustics(sp) and to my ears they sound great. which is why it is worth the trouble. ill just prolly end up dilling new wholes. thanks for the info man.
Old Jul 17, 2007 | 10:04 PM
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well yeah it is offensive to tell me that i SAID i know everything because i know i never said that, ask me about turbo, supercharger, nitro, and any of that stuff and im a complete noob... but when i see a thread or a post that i do know something about and especially a thread that has something to do with what i actually did myself then i comment...

anyhow

boston acoustics are a good brand, never heard their car audio stuff but i have heard some home stuff... its more than just drilling 4 new holes.. the rear deck has a round shape cut out to fit the 6.5" speakers, u will need to cut out the sides of that circle to make an oval shape to fit the 6x9's... thinking about it more now it should not be that hard. take a small saw or large metal cutters and take out a triangle on each side of the 6.5" circle, then work from there fitting the new speaker in and cutting a little more every time in order not to make a hole thats too large....
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 08:51 PM
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yea thats what i was thinkging just take a dremel and cut it. thanks for the info tho. let you know how it works out tomorrow. hopefully it wount rain.
Old Jul 18, 2007 | 09:01 PM
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btw i just noticed it says u have a 93, i was referring to a 45h gen, not sure about speakers in a 3rd gen... OOOPS
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btw i just noticed it says u have a 93, i was referring to a 45h gen, not sure about speakers in a 3rd gen... OOOPS
Ha, me too. Maybe they are those little buggers.
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they are not just any old speakers. they happen to be a pair of boston acrustics(sp) and to my ears they sound great. which is why it is worth the trouble. ill just prolly end up dilling new wholes. thanks for the info man.
Boston Acoustics does make some fine speakers. I've got some RM6's in the rear right now.
Old Jul 19, 2007 | 01:46 AM
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When I replaced my rear speakers I just pried the rear deck up and used a stubby screwdriver to (un)screw the speakers. I didn't touch the C-pillars.

I replaced the crappy Bose speakers with Focal 6.5" components all around (as well as subs in the trunk). They sound awesome. Plus, the crossover for the fronts fits in the plastic Bose amp enclosure in each door. :-)
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Originally Posted by andrei3333
btw i just noticed it says u have a 93, i was referring to a 45h gen, not sure about speakers in a 3rd gen... OOOPS

haha. this awlays gets people. we are actually a maxima familly. i have a 93 se or used to its being parted out rite now. my sister has a 4th gen and my older bro got a 6th gen. but i personally like the 3rd gen and those came with i dont know but i had the boston 6X9's in there. just wanna hand over the whole system to the 4th gen with out the amps tho.
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